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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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There are supposed to be three factions:

The citadel guys (not sure what they call themselves): All them albinos, lead by Immortan Joe. He controls the water, Imperator Furiosa works for him, but I guess in the movie at some point conscience gets the better of her and she decides to take his brides off to her homeland somewhere. So Immortan Joe is trying to get his bitches back.

The Bullet Farmer, the blindfolded guy, who has all the guns/ammunition. It would be funny if there is some sort of post apocalyptic legend of this guy; he's like Zatoichi with guns, but realistically its just some crazy blind dude windmilling his arms around while going full auto with a a pair of MP5's or whatever he's armed with.

The People Eater, who is the leader of the gang that controls all the guzzoline. I haven't seen him yet, him and his gang might just end up getting passing mention in the actual movie. Characters we know:

Max who gets captured by Immortan Joe's gang and turned into a hood ornament, then gets recruited by Imperator Furiosa in her scheme to take the brides away from the Citadel.

Imperator Furiosa who used to work for Immortan Joe "You ever done this before?"/"Many times." but is taking his brides somewhere. Honestly I get the sense that the movie is more about her than Max. Total speculation, but I'm betting the loss of her arm is gonna be some allegory to freedom- sorta like a coyote having to chew its own leg off to escape a trap.

Immortan Joe played by the guy who played Toecutter in the first film, with the mask. As an aside, I find it ironic that while the guy that played Max played Bane in the last Batman movie, the guy who plays a similar masked villain is much more easier to understand when he talks. This guy happened to luck onto the only deep well in the wasteland and obviously formed some kind of cult around it. Until Furiosia takes his women and he goes on some crazy chase after her and Max.

Nux who is driving the car that has the Max Hood Ornament. He is pretty young looking, and you see him with the 'brides' in some trailers and carried by Max. I get the sense he gets rescued and dragged along the chase.

Rictus Erectus, Immortan Joe's right hand man, the buff guy with the goofy face mask thing and huge machinegun. He's seen driving the Monster Truck. Guessing like most typical Head Mooks there is an epic fight culminating into ]Imperator Furiosa headbutting him into oblivion :black101: .

I'm anticipating a contrast between three elements of this film: Furiosa, who is trying to actually escape this type of life/existence, Max, who is merely trying to survive it, and Nux, who is in all likelihood born into this madness.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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The vehicle with the drummers and flamethrower guitarist is called the 'Doof Wagon'. The guitarist is apparently blind and disfigured.

This movie is gonna be so cool!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I don't know if people noticed but the scenes where the top half of Furiosa's head is 'sooty' there is another mook with similar markings. I wonder if this is a kind of rank insignia or something.

I imagine the gang member in charge of delivering the guzzoline would be both trustworthy and badass. So maybe it's related to that.

Also, there was commentary joking about why aren't these guys raiding in priuses and similar vehicles. I think the reason is twofold:

One, it prevents the movie from seeming dated later on. For all we know the Prius and iPod may be the Pet Rock of our generation; it's probably better to stick with vehicles so old or obscure they would still be "timeless" two sequels and six years from now.

Two, it's similar to the Smokers in Waterworld: Sure guzzoline is precious, but that just means those who control it have great power. What better ways to flaunt your power than with fire and smoke spewing machines? People growing up in the twilight of civilization would see these things as totems of great power. The scarcer guzzoline gets, the more powerful these machines appear. Its obvious the citadel gang has already had a cargo cult going for a while- the steering wheel motif, the prayer pose with steepled fingers (our most holy vee eight?) And costumes adorned with motorcycle air filters. Guzzoline is power, but it is the demonstration of that power that lends weight. Fear and obedience doesn't come from some nondescript fuel bunkers, it comes from some deaf mute jamming on a flamethrower guitar perched on a giant diesel powered PA system :black101:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I wish there were ironic product tie ins with this movie. Like Shell stations selling promotional beverage cups and changing all their signage to say "guzzoline".

Purchase ten gallons of guzzoline and get a free max antenna ball. For the Road Warrior in you!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Modus Operandi posted:

I don't see how anyone can dislike Thunderdome. It's just such a weird movie. The entire lost boys colony is just so surreal in that. The road sequences are at least as good as Road Warrior. Kind of sad Tina Turner didn't do more roles in her prime. She was actually pretty good.


Fear not. It's going to be huge. Even overseas the Mad Max trailer gets a lot of buzz when it shows.

Pretty big in Australia I imagine!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Has anyone read the copy of Entertainment Weekly that covers this film? I heard it had a lot of spoilers about the plot. I was really curious about more info.

From what I heard, Immortan Joe's gang are suffering some kind of disease/mutation in their men. This explains why all the guys are pasty white- maybe its a skin condition? The women are treated like chattel perhaps in an effort to 'breed out' their mutation. Max is used as a human blood bag and was kept alive possibly to provide transfusions. Of course this could all be a bunch of hooey cooked up by Immortan Joe to get a loyal band of followers to give him all the guzzoline and virgins.

From the looks of it, Max gets captured at the beginning. Nux gets sent out as an escort for Furiosas war rig. But Furiosa secretly smuggled Immortan Joe's brides on board, and plans on giving the guzzoline to the buzzards in exchange for safe passage out of the wastes . The buzzards stage an attack to make it look like the rig got ambushed but Furiosa prearranged all of it.They need to kill all the guards/escorts so there's no witnesses but Max survives. They decide to team up but at this point Immortan Joe discovered the betrayal and is in hot pursuit. Whatever faction was supposed to get the guzzoline is after them too since they think Immortan Joe double crossed them, and the third faction is trying to take advantage of the chaos to steal the guzzoline. When the buzzards discover "three war parties" are after them, they trigger a rockslide which buys Furiosa time to make a break for it.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Nux: He looked at me! Immortan Joe looked at me! :circlefap:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Yeah I was just eating it up. It spoils a lot of stuff; you can pretty much see how the whole movie will play out. Still, it is so awesome how much actual chase scene was filmed actually having dozens of vehicles barreling down in the desert. Coordinating that without having anybody get killed for reals must be nuts.

Another nice thing is you can see how little CG they used. Some green screens (probably for sandstorms and stuff) and Imperator Furiosa's cybernetic arm. But that's it. The rest seems to be practical effects, with vehicles really rolling, stuff really exploding, etc.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Today I was thinking about the whole bit with Immortan Joe and his War Boys. From what I heard in the promo information, The War Boys are suffering some kind of plague. It would explain the blood transfusions necessary to keep them alive and the fatalistic attitude. Immortan Joe raises these boys up much like how Iran's military convinced teens to help clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war; serve me, and paradise awaits. In the scene where Nux gets excited that Immortan Joe happened to look in his direction, he screams, "Valhalla, here I come!" punches the nitro, and surges ahead of the pack in pursuit of Furiosa and company.

A future as dire as the one in Mad Max brings death quickly. In one of the trailers Max says something to the effect of "I run from both the living and the dead." I think the dead refer to the War Boys, people who know they are doomed to die; why not die in the most exciting and epic way possible? Throughout history people have feared 'death cults', people who no longer take any regard for their life for it is believed the afterlife/sacrifice is more significant. In the Mad Max world, a bunch of suicidal nuts like this would be particularly dangerous, since they would be so fanatical and desperate they would likely fight to the very last.


Also interesting,

While at first I thought the film was going to be about Furiosa fleeing the Citadel, it looks like it is actually her getting an effort to recruit allies to re-take it. She is probably banking on a 3-gang free for all leaving the Citadel itself vulnerable to invasion and I'm betting her and her original 'tribe' end up peacefully occupying the Citadel at the end of the film. Max himself says in the footage "*points* You can drive for a hundred days in that direction and all you'll see is salt. Or you can go back that way." I'm betting the deep water well in the Citadel offers people the only true chance to start civilization again, even after all the guzzoline has burned away.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Oh, that makes sense.

Is Immortan Joe's mask to cover up some deformity? Or just for show ?

I wonder if the other two gang leaders, People Eater and Bullet Farmer are running their own cults of personality out there. The desperation of the wastes seems to favor Charles Manson type leaders- sadistic and charismatic.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Who is Immortan Joe's son? Rictus Erectus? Or Corpus? Who is Corpus, haven't seen him in pictures. I know Rictus Erectus is that big dude that drives the monster truck and is seen accompanying Immortan Joe in several scenes.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Jynetik posted:

I'm pretty sure "Corpus" is going to be the fat guy with the fake nose that showed up in the leaked concept art and was seen briefly in a screenshot. I'd be willing to be that he's the guy that runs gastown.

I thought he was supposed to be called the People Eater?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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thedangergroove posted:

Okay, I just got back from a preview screening, but I had to leave 30 minutes in. Why: we came late and had to be in front row right, it was in 3D, and it was super blurry. Also, it made my girlfriend mega-nauseous.

But it was loving awesome. Always super fast and super hard. References to Mad Max 1, 2, and 3 that I really didn't expect to be in this movie (I thought it was just going to be Mad Max as a rebooty-legendy-guy), some seriously insanely good costuming and gross-rear end makeup, and awesome real cars and stunts.

I don't regret leaving just yet, it would have been awful seeing it in that hosed up blurry bad angle.


(also it has awesome 80's-ish titles, big metal MAD MAX, and: Tom Hardy is MAX ROCKATANSKY CHARLIZE THERON is IMPERATOR FURIOSA)

Wow, I'm pretty surprised they'd reference the other movies.

I kind of thought all the movies after the first one sorta existed as legends about Max; not necessarily happening in any particular sequence but as a story told by the people he met (Feral Kid, Auntie Entity, Imperator Furiosa, etc)

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

Nope, People Eater is a fat guy played by John Howard (No, not that one) who runs Gasstown. He wears what's left of a business suit with his nipples exposed that are linked together with a chain. OF COURSE.


Rictus is one of his sons, but he is mutated on some way so he is not perfect, Joe's mission to to breed a pure child I think, Corpus might be his other, less fortunate son I have heard rumors about, played by Quentin Kenihan, a minor Australian celebrity for having a good sense of humor about his osteogenesis imperfecta.
This is Quentin Kenihan.

Enjoy!


OK, if they use that guy they have to have him perched on the back of some towering hulk of a man. Because....

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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VikingSkull posted:


I mean, I saw the originals around the age of 11 or 12 so I think he'll be fine, but still, it might be gayboy berserker rape half the movie for all we know

It's Mad Max, I'm sure it is gayboy berserker rape the whole way down.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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VikingSkull posted:

Yeah, you're probably right.

I'll just have to have that talk with him, that it's ok to be a gayboy berserker if he wants to be and I'll love him nonetheless, as long as it's consensual

When a giant muscly man loves a smaller, twink man...

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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So it turns out the People Eater is a vehicle like somebody thought. An oil refinery cracking tower tipped sideways and pulled by a vehicle made up of two limos slapped together.

I love the design of all these vehicles!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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AlternateAccount posted:

This movie is definitely very "bad at explaining everything" so if you're the type that that bothers, you're going to be really unhappy.

Like some big questions that don't get answered? Some kind of spoiler-y, I guess.

Why does Immortan Joe wear that mask?
What happened to Furiosa's arm? Who built her the new one?
Why were the guys at the beginning chasing Max in the first place?
There's clearly some kind of genetic defecto problem going around, and people aren't living long, why not?

It's a good movie, and I love the degree to which they just take a, "This is how the world is now, we're not going to spell each and every detail out for you, use some imagination, hell, make up your own story if you need to" attitude.
It definitely reinforced the idea that these Mad Max stories are retold legends and not necessarily fully accurate accounts.

I figured the more a film over explains every detail and purpose, the more people will nitpick and see contradictions.

I figure this is a visual representation of an oral tradition passed down many times. Each successive narrator adds a bit, either to have it make more sense to themselves or just to make the story cooler.

So somewhere in this post apocalyptic epic tale Furiosa gets a cybernetic arm. Immortan Joe gets a mask. And so forth.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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I read that George Miller wrote scripts for two sequels. I bet if this does well he might make another two films.

Maybe in those films they could expand on some details. Or just add more tales of Max to the story, tales where Max keeps blundering into other people's struggles and needs to just survive.

Perhaps the Gyropilot becomes dictator of post apocalyptic Sydney or something.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

That's disappointing, though I am not going out of my way to believe this just yet because the character actually exists in the movie so maybe there is some confusion as they are tied.
Though I will point out that an original character name has been used for a vehicle. Razor Cola was intended to be one of Bullet Farmer's main henchmen but as far as I understand it may very well be the title of a feature vehicle.

EDIT A recently updated IMDB page that has more had more characters listed than ever still has John Howard listed as People Eater...


Closure and complete explanation is unnecessary, when the audience is spoonfed every minute detail it eliminates the need for imagination. People who hate films because "They don't explain enough" are idiots (Unless the thing not explained is something that actually ruins the film and is a result of poor writing, of course), but I'll answer as vaguely as possible.

1. Because the air is toxic.
2. Because it is cool, deal with it.
3. Because that's what they do?
4. Because the air is toxic.

It could be a typo. The People Eater would be a cool name for the leader of Gasstown. The implication I get about him is that he is some kind of brutal no nonsense villain.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Following the "whole world's gone mad" theme makes me think about how nutty all these leaders are and how their resources create this weird equilibrium in the wasteland-

Immortan Joe being a crazy cult leader and controlling all the water. You need water to live; I bet people are willing to believe a lot in order to survive.

The People Eater being maybe some libertarian type who would feel right at home in a future as dire as Mad Max's world. You need guzzoline to migrate from resource to resource; without it a gang would be completely isolated.

The Bullet Farmer being a doomsday prepper ending up on the top of the food chain. These characters don't need elaborate backstories; this particular leader was probably just some nut living in the Outback who was hoarding a mountain of ammunition long before the start of the chaos. He wouldn't have to be charismatic, bullets themselves could very likely be a currency in a land of such scarcity. You'd need bullets to both protect yourself from desperate enemies.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Maybe for the last film it turns out it's only Australia that's affected and the rest of the world is this bustling civilization in 2060. Eventually the UN gets around to helping out and finds a desert of all these bandits.

If you look at some places in real life in the grip of civil war or natural disaster, it's not far from the Mad Max universe. Everything is scarce, and the only people who choose to stay are those unable to leave and the warlords that rule them.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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From what I'm hearing, Nux is one of the more fleshed out characters. Some possible Nux facts
-Has two tumors, named Barry and Larry :3:
-Uses Max's blood not just to keep him alive, but also in the hopes he will get Max's adrenaline from being strapped to the front of his car :black101:
-Seems like the polar opposite of Max; while Max is trying to find every possible way to survive no matter how dire, Nux is much like the mythical Achilles who would rather live a glorious, short life than a terrible long one.


For anyone else that has been looking into the backstory like myself, did you notice that Immortan Joe's War Boys are kind of like a beehive? Early in their life, they start out as mechanics, staying inside the Citadel. It is only when they reach maturity that they get to get one of the steering wheels that lets them be part of the War Party. This reminds me a lot of bees since 'younger' adult bees tend to stay in the hive, and it is only the 'older' ones that go out and forage. This is because as they get nearer to the end of their already short lifespan, they become more expendable. The War Boys are supposed to suffer from something that causes them to die young. They're all convinced they are going to die anyway, and it seems like Immortan Joe is brainwashing them into dying gloriously for him. It would make sense to use the 'older' boys, and I bet them having no regard for their own safety probably strikes a lot of fear in the other gangs/people in the wasteland.

Hugh Keays-Byrne had a clip where he was talking about playing Immortan Joe, and it was pretty good. Something like "Look, he's taking these boys in, trying to keep them alive by stealing people to use their blood/breeding out the plague, he's trying to rebuild civilization by planting crops and stuff, maybe he's not all that bad of a guy!" :hitler:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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victrix posted:

:stare:

Jesus christ, even making the movie was as metal as the movie

It sounds like some of those outtakes could've been used in the movie for how crazy they are. Guy gets set on fire by a flaming guitar? Oil rig truck jacknifes down a ravine?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Too impatient to wait for Friday,

-How did the Bullet Farmer get his eyes messed up? Or is he just some blind dude that shoots guns?

-Why does it appear that the People Eater's rig is with Immortan joes gang? Are they allied?

-How many times is the word 'guzzoline' uttered?

-Are the other places besides the Citadel shown? Gasstown? Bullet Farm?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Man I want to see this so bad now. And I promised my wife I wouldn't bumrush past the other man children just to get good seats!

Ugh oh well guess I'll just have to be patient.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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The reasons I want to see this so super bad:

1. Was a huge fan of The Road Warrior.
2. Practical effects over CG make the stunts and props that much more impressive.
3. I know very little about cars or guns. But crazy bald albino dudes driving flame spewing old timey cars seems pretty awesome, and a blindfolded dude firing two MP5s is also fairly badass.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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TerminalBlue posted:

I am trying SO drat HARD to not watch the movie from the projection booth right now. I want to see it so bad, yet I want to actually sit in the auditorium and experience it, not just peer through a peephole with cooling fans buzzing all around me. Even though I've turned the booth monitor off, the SICKRAD BASS of engines and explosions is taunting me through the walls!

Strange to hear that lots of people are in empty theaters, we sold out almost two hours before the first show. Granted that's only 130 seats but it's a small town and theres 6 other--and much larger--screens running it along with us.

Of course we also had this out front:




Which is way more badass in person than the lovely phone pics I could sneak out to grab would have you think.

And all the staff dressed up for the occasion but compared to the V8 Interceptor replica nobody really cared. Fun times though!

Did it have a button on the gearshift to activate the supercharger? VROOOM!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Oh man, could you imagine Vin Diesel being in a Mad Max movie?

FAST AND THE FURIOUS 8: MAXIMUM MAX
Vin Diesel in his supercharged Charger and Tom Hardy in his Pursuit Special doin' wheelies across the Australian Badlands!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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That's good. I'm hoping this is one of those films where going opening night gets the 'good' seats, in that word of mouth actually builds up momentum and the theaters get more packed the second/third week the film comes out.

If it's less crowded than Avengers 2 I'm good.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Why are these MRAs getting their jockstraps in a twist over this?

I mean, if the movie is seen as feminist, then it must do it well. It looks like an action movie with cars and explosions and stuff. So I'm not seeing why they have a problem with it.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Oh man, what a ride. I was afraid it wouldn't live up to the hype, but I gotta agree with other goons that said it was insanely good in such a weird and awesome way.

I love how bizarre the world is, but since they don't over-explain it the audience just has to accept this crazy alliance between a masked cult leader covered in tumors, a noseless guy in a suit, and a guy wearing an outfit made out of bullets :black101:

Immortan Joe Was such a menacing guy, yet at the same time a real 'family man' in his own twisted way. While everybody else seems to be alone (Max in particular), here's this guy with a 'family' trying to breed out whatever plague is affecting them. And using 'MEDIOCRE!' as such a grave insult; he's like the quintessential bad father everyone desperately tries to get the approval from.

The People Eater Just cracks me up. I dunno, I think back of all the scenes of him and just giggle. He's like the most cartoony, goofy yet weirdly serious character. You think about scarcity in a place/future like this, and wonder how they can really afford to waste all those lives/guzzoline/bullets on a wild goose chase. Then you got The People Eater rattling off all the 'expenses', "THREE THOUSAND GALLONS OF GUZZOLINE, TWENTY BOTTLES OF NITRO, SIX PURSUIT VEHICLES...These deficits are mounting, Immortan Joe!" He was such a hilariously grotesque character; people behind us were groaning in disgust when he was tweaking his nipple rings. And his 'elephant foot' which gets repurposed as a 'cruise control'. His vehicle was really cool, a modified limousine towing an improvised oil refinery behind it.


The Bullet Farmer was also really over the top in a very funny way. All three leaders seemed like something out of Warhammer 40k, making things so crazy and grimdark it comes back around to being funny. I mean, the guy's got a coif made out of bullets, steering wheel made out of bullets; in fact at one point I think he removes a tooth (bullet) and loads it into a gun! He also seems really unimpressed with Immortan Joe's whole 'family drama' and it sounds like he wouldn't hesitate to turn the whole rig into swiss cheese given the chance.

Other little details I liked:
Chekov's Femur
The War Rig being filled with breastmilk. I was half expecting it to just be filled with water, since I thought that was the Citadel's resource. It makes the Rig's journey a LITERAL 'milk run'!
Coma the Doof Warrior rocking out at every opportunity. A real fan favorite.
The whole film going from nuts to batshit insane right off the bat. A routine convoy turns into a pursuit, which calls the other two gangs, creating this cross between Death Race and Wacky Racers, along with Buzzards and the Rockhopper dudes.
Vehicles that seemed very well designed for that future. Either very fast, designed to board (polecat) disable (dragger trucks) or just rock out (Doof Wagon)


Things I disliked/missed:
Furiosa's plan. She smuggles the wives, takes the rig off-route, uses the Buzzards to get rid of her escorts, the cover of a dust storm, then a long ago bargain with the rockhopper guys. But Immortan Joe figures out her plan almost as soon as she goes East, calls the other gangs, the rockhoppers try to welch on the deal because of all the pursuing vehicles, and she couldn't have anticipated getting Max and Nux's help along the way. I thought maybe these convoys are long distance days-long journeys, but Gasstown is literally visible from the cItadel. Close enough for Corpus to note that she is taking off on her own.

I was also hoping we'd get to see Gasstown and the Bullet Farm, if even just a brief scene of each gang rolling out.

Why was the Rig carrying the Guzzoline Pod in the first place? I thought they were gonna trade milk for guzzoline and bullets; I know Furiosa needed the guzzoline to bribe the Rockhopper guys, but it would seem awfully weird to everyone else they just happened to be carrying on the way to Gasstown

Panfilo fucked around with this message at 09:29 on May 16, 2015

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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There was definitely a theme of human bondage going on through the film:

The wives' chastity belts
The facemask on Max
The shackles between Max and Nux
And with Furiosa, I would say it is her mechanical arm. There are several scenes where she doesn't have it on not because she lost it, but because she chose to remove it. Rather than be vulnerable, she's actually extremely feisty and more than Max's equal in a fight.
Even Immortan Joe apparently needed his mask to live.

I'd like to think that Furiosa's mechanical arm kind of represents the measures you have to take in that society; giving up/making due with losing flesh for machinery. Max finally getting his facemask off helped him start his path to humanity (gotta say the parts where he is frantically trying to tear it off with a metal file were pretty funny, like a feral dog trying to chew off a collar or something). The chastity belts were the one thing the wives chose to leave behind in the desert.

Some more interesting observations:
The people of the citadel were 'marked' with that brand. Furiosa's was prominently displayed early in the film. But you'll notice Max never actually got marked, he managed to run away and I don't think they actually branded him afterward. It feels like it illustrates what an outside Max is, that even being captured and enslaved he's still a lone wolf.

The War Rig symbolically lost its steering wheel and eventually got replaced by the Bullet Farmer's steering wheel.




What was the language that the Buzzards spoke? Russian?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Each warlord does their thing as a show of power. The People Eater is at least pragmatic about it, but even for him it's not so much conservation as its money. He even says "These deficits are mounting by the hour!" or something to that effect. He's probably pissed off about having to commit his war party (probably through some mutual treaty or something) because he likely doesn't completely trust the other warlords will actually pay/barter him for all the guzzoline he brings.

The Bullet Farmer is a different story; I think for him he thinks its wasteful to not just shoot everybody and be done with it. He has the means and resources to deal with problems in the most brute force and straightforward manner; trying to recapture the wives probably is an unnecessary pain in the rear end. But obviously he has some commitment to this too.

Somebody upthread suggested all three Warlords were related and I can see this. While a tenuous alliance is mutually beneficial, I can't see why the other two Warlords wouldn't be all "gently caress it, deal with your own Jerry Springer problems, Joe". They certainly don't seem to be very happy about the whole arrangement.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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Potential BFF posted:

I figure you don't let someone's war party go out unanswered, no need for violence but everyone keeps tabs on one another. It's also an excuse to flex your muscle and remind the rabble why you're in charge.

That's a good point. You get a lot of stability by avoiding reprisals and blood feuds. Wouldn't want some rival Warlord to have an excuse to take over your 'burg!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

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AndyElusive posted:

Who runs the slave trade between all the tribes? Blood bags like Max are probably in high demand in the apocalyptic wastelands of George Miller's mind.

I think 'organic' stuff in general seems to be Immortan Joe's domain; he controls the water, and he had a very extensive hydroponic system in the Citadel.

Citadel exports include Water, crops, human breastmilk, supple virgins, and religious fanaticism.

They mentioned Immortan Joe pumps the water up from deep in the ground. That doesn't happen by magic. Either he's got an army of slaves running in giant hamster wheels like the lifts (totally plausible in this future) or he uses guzzoline to power machinery to pump the water. On a mesa like the Citadel you'd have to bring the water up a considerable distance.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Furiosa mentions she is seeking 'redemption'. I was thinking about what exactly that means.

She got captured when she was young. Her mom died 3 days into captivity. So she had a long, long time to plan her freedom/revenge. She used her status as Imperator and access to the War Rig to plan her escape. The sad twist about this is that to gain Immortan Joe's trust, she would have to have committed many atrocities along the way. Note that for such a sexist, male-centric civilization, Immortan Joe entrusts an enslaved woman to ferry bullets and guzzoline to the Citadel. She obviously had to have pretended to be a part of his agenda, possibly even being responsible for the capture of some of the women. That would give her the incentive to try to liberate them; feeling guilty you are being a part of the oppression, so you risk your own liberty to redeem yourself. Max is trying to escape the haunting feeling he let his wife and kid down, and it is the reason he can't seem to settle down in one place- he can't bear the thought of losing more people he cares about. .

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

whatever7 posted:

Is there a theory on what's in the smoking horizon when Furiosa stop and drive off road.

Also, how did the war party clear up the rocks after the motorcycle gang blew up the cliff?

You actually see Immortan Joe's gang clearing away the rocks. He is impatient about getting the wives back, so he drives Bigfoot, the only vehicle that can immediately bypass the rocks in pursuit. When the War Rig gets stuck in the bog, it gives the rest of the gangs time to catch up.

Keep in mind in the chase back to the Citadel, they are planning on jackknifing the rig in one of the passes to stall their pursuers. That would mean all three gangs had managed to get through by clearing away the rocks.

The ironic part is that had Immortan Joe not been such a softie, the other gangs probably would have caught up to the rig. But because he was mourning one of his wives/sons, he held everybody up.


Something else that cracked me up, was Rictus Erectus drinking the milk. Total, Got Milk? moment :3

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
I gotta say, they really fleshed out these characters well. Even characters that were vaguely hinted at in interviews/promos were depicted in ways that you can understand their relationship.

Corpus refers to Immortan Joe as 'dad'. I don't even think Rictus does. Corpus and Rictus have a real Master-Blaster vibe to me. The only way George Miller could've made it cooler would be to have Corpus barking orders at Rictus the whole time while perched on his shoulders.

The other two Warlords got well established, even though we saw them briefly.

All five of the wives each had their own unique personalities.

Nux, and to a lesser extent Slit give you a good sense of what the Warboys' existence is like.



One thing I just wondered, why did Immortan Joe drag that old lady in his boudoir along for the chase? What was the point? Did she survive the end of the movie?

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Product tie-ins I wish existed:

Allstate's "Mayhem" guy strapped to the front of one of the Pursuit vehicles talking about what might happen if you settle with 'cut rate' car insurance.

Rictus manages to stall the rig by ripping out the supercharger. It jackknifes, and cornflakes are spilling out. Rictus says, "I WAS GONNA HAVE BREAKFAST! AND IT WAS GONNA BE PERFECT!"(GOT MILK?)

Mentos commercial with Furiosa having to fend off all the bandits and gangs. Pops mentos, smiles, headbutts goon, drives to safety.

Old Spice commercial with War Boys huffing Old Spice body spray then kamikazing into some Buzzards "WITNESS ME! WITNESS MY AROMA *old spice jingle* "

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