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Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

I can't believe this series is almost 10 volumes deep and the title "We Never Learn" is printed all over the Japanese volumes and merch and scans are still sticking to their guns with "We Can't Study." I wonder if it's a refusal to be wrong or just apathy but either way it boggles the mind. I've seen series that kept their Japanese name before but never one that stubbornly clung to an old translation.

# ¿ Jan 29, 2019 03:33

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 08:17

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Sharkopath posted:

Today in painting adventure:

The maids aint right.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/544466/1

I instantly thought of this. Get outta there!

# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 11:10

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Darth TNT posted:

Is there still room in the Furuhashi fanclub for a convert?

I just love that Furuhashi and Yuiga solve everything by just talking and listening to each other.

Friends are always welcome in the One True Ship. We are glad your eyes are finally open.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2019 03:16

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Darth TNT posted:

New space tale
I loved this mini arc. If someone were to show me this I'd immediately decide to keep reading this manga.
It was so stupid.
I'm torn on outfitting Rebecca with a swimsuit though. It comes so out of left field that I couldn't help but laugh.
But it serves no purpose other than the authors horniness which is a bit annoying, but considering the other stuff he's put her through it's not that surprising either.

Eden's Zero is fun and that's all I want it to be. FT was at its best when it was having fun and just awful when it tried to be serious.

And yeah, Mashima may very well be The Horniest Mangaka. Arguably hornier than literal porn artists, and considering how prolific he is with manga and such, perhaps he is fueled by his desire to drive as close to the edge as he can possibly go without going over. "As long as I pretend to make this manga mainly about friendship and punching, maybe they won't mind if I keep beinga big old weirdo and making my villains sexual sadists towards the same character over and over again."

# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 05:13

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

I've never read To-Love-Ru or the Yuna Hotsprings one but as I understand it they're filled with tits from the get-go and are both fanservice-focused manga right?

I guess that kind of thing might make them technically hornier, I don't know, I'd have to read the manga to gauge. (But I don't especially want to.) The way I see it, there's a difference between selling sex outright and selling something else and just stuffing it full of sex. A late night Cinemax movie VS Game of Thrones. I think Mashima's ability to maintain the facade of a typical friendship and hotblooded shonen series and just getting increasingly horny as it goes on without giving in and just making a titty manga is what earns him that title for me. For all I know, the other two could be just drawing naked ladies because it sells. Mashima I can know is doing it because he loves it and he is too horny to hold back.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 06:55

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Jose posted:

boichi is the horniest mangaka

Now that's a contender, his horniness transcends time space and gender. He made a deadly natural gas sexy, that's dangerously horny.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 09:47

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Mulderman posted:

I just hope she doesn�t get shoved into the strickly "has big tits" characteristic.

Speaking of, she's the only one who has yet to have a large arc dedicated to her.

She's had two large arcs since the beginning, heyoooooo

# ¿ Apr 14, 2019 16:07

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Fabricated posted:

Ne0;lation is cancelled as of this next issue I guess.

did ne0 say something racist, haha internet joke

That's kind of a shame, I felt like it had potential and I liked the psuedo-Law and Order "let's tie the story arcs to current-ish events" thing it had going on. But it also definitely didn't stand out the way the other big breakout hits did in their first chapters. If it's going down, Hell Warden Higuma is probably next on the block.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 01:02

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Manatee Cannon posted:

hell warden's not amazing but I feel like it's way way better than neolation ever was

I like them both okay but I do agree that Higuma has a lot more to say and has had far more compelling character development. Learning why Neo is the way he is VS Who Higuma is and who he pretends to be. But both dove into major character backstory flashbacks around the same time and Higuma especially had a guy that feels like he should've been a midseries big bad show up way earlier than expected which has me concerned for its longevity.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 01:19

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Manatee Cannon posted:

I guess tbf kimetsu no yaiba wasn't so different. main bad guy was introduced really early and they were already fighting the twelve demon moons by like ch 30

wouldn't really surprise me if hell warden got canceled but this could still just be setup for later

That's a fair point that I hadn't considered, I've never read KnY. I'm enjoying reading it so I hope it doesn't get canned, but I do remain worried for it.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 06:12

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Endeavour as we�re introduced to him is basically a super villain who only cared about marriage and children as a eugenics program to show up All Might. He seemingly never really treated his family as people. And it�s just really hard to reconcile that with recent arcs where he is just a terrible husband and father who has realised that in pursuit of power he has hurt everyone close to him and thrown away those he deep down still cared about.

The focus arc Endeavour got was actually pretty solid but it doesn�t feel like this is the same dude we were introduced to. And it makes the writing around him come off as awkward and strange.

Agreed on both points, it definitely feels like Horikoshi is backpedaling way hard on the abuse and softening the hell out of his character to make Endeavor's atonement arc work. And it does to an extent, there are Endeavor moments I've enjoyed even though I truly despised his character in the beginning and honestly still do for the most part.

Given the way it's gone down, I have to wonder if Horikoshi realized like the rest of us that Endeavor's initial plan/motivation was monumentally loving stupid. Like, given the danger and stress of Hero-ing, Endeavor had to have known that by the time Todoroki became the #1 Hero that All Might would be dead or retired, right? What did he expect to happen?

"All Might!! Behold, I have finally surpassed you! It is my son Shoto who is the #1 Hero now, not you!!!"

"Endeavor, I am sixty years old. And I have not been a hero for the last decade. Get a hobby."

Of course if All Might hadn't been injured maybe he would've been hero-ing well into his twilight years like Gran Torino is but it is still truly embarassing to think that Endeavor wanted to raise a child to show up a man 2-3 times their age and even more so that he thought All Might would be anything less than psyched about a new young hero. (Up until he realized what Endeavor'd done to make it happen at which point he would probably deck him into deep space.)

I've now written entirely too many words about this but it is just such a bad foundation for a character and while unfortunately the damage is already done, I am glad that Horikoshi scrapped it asap to focus on Endeavor's personal struggles and relationship with All Might rather than leaning into the "my strong adult son" angle.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2019 07:57

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

One Piece isn't for everyone, it's okay for people to not like things.

But it is definitely the best long-running shonen series and I don't think anyone else could have done what Oda's done to keep a series this fresh and fun for such an absurdly long time. Without taking years and years on hiatus, that is.

Wano is bonkers good and it's a shame that Dressrosa and Fishman Island ran overlong and burned some people out before they could get to Zou. Zou onward has been nonstop homeruns in my clearly unbiased opinion.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2019 04:05

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Then again, Shilliew and Levely.

If an author specifically asks for their stupid spelling then it can't be helped but I appreciate Paul and Viz sticking with the better spellings even when the source material puts the weird ones in big block letters.

Zolo is unfortunate but I can deal with that.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2019 03:59

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

HerraS posted:

seven deadly sins introduced power levels and then made them conpletely meaningless in such quick fashion it would make dragonball blush

Was it faster than One Piece or Toriko? One Piece only used them for like a single chapter, but Toriko temporarily turned power levels into a numerical energy source complete with resource bars for one arc but then immediately scrapped it after the arc finished.

EDIT: also yeah Samurai 8 loving sucks. "You're a Samurai!! Remember the Trinity! Your soul is your blade! Your dog is your armor! And your princess... Stays offscreen and prays and I guess that helps too!" Fuckin' hell is that tacked on.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 04:33

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

I'm glad the protagonist is developing but he definitely needs a bit more character if he's gonna hold the series up. It is a lot better than I thought it was gonna be at the start though, I thought Siscon guy was the main joke but he's just one idiot in a family of them so that's better.

Also the art is whatever but I find Mitama Security absolutely hilarious. It is very much my kind of humor. Him flipping around doing gun tricks instead of just shooting the dude in the first chapter just about killed me.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2019 20:08

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Darth TNT posted:

We never learn
I was a little worried there.

It predictable to the letter but I still cried because I love these kids so much and I need them all to be happy.

I also cried at Mitama Security because it's so loving funny to me. I really hope it does well, the art is poo poo but the gags are so good.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 19:38

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Jose posted:

since i assume the korean manwha thread has been archived the breaker guys have a new series starting and the chapter 0 premise seems interesting enough

https://mangadex.org/chapter/677921/1

I loved the Breaker but I don't like reading comics that are so very vertical. I don't know what it is about it, it's just uncomfortable. Probably too much exposure to manga and Western comics. If it's them and it gets good responses then maybe I'll try to push past it.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 00:41

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Mulderman posted:

Also quick reminder to support the official release.
The scanlation did something horrible this chapter.

Oof, that is some gross cleaning, and also it's been so long since I've read the scans that I didn't notice that they translate Sensei like a dang robot. She and her sister have a cute habit of using academic/technical phrases instead of simpler words. It doesn't work in English, or at least not the way the scans are doing it, so making them talk extra formally is much more natural.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2019 01:02

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Ibblebibble posted:

Does SHY go in this thread?

Because it's good.

What is Shy?

# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 05:30

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Mitama Security is really funny and I hope it's here to stay

# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 03:49

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

I really like Zipman! I adore tokusatsu so it was an easy sale but the main character and the designs are fantastic. I hope it does well!

As for Agravity, I'm also in the camp that thought it sounded horrible at first but I actually thought it was really funny. It probably won't last long tho.

Speaking of funny, I am forever Mitama Security's sole fan and I sing its praises when I can. This week's chapter was laugh out loud funny. "Sorry I called you a squirrely piece of crap in my head."

# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 21:14

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Rhonne posted:

Zipman! Chapter 3

I like that in the world of Zipman, Magical Girls are brawlers now.

This is actually the real world too. While modern series' have plenty of magic and spells too, Pretty Cure/PreCure (the original show, it's to Cutie Charm what Kamen Rider is to Zipman) does have its heroes punching the poo poo out of their baddies in addition to more traditional magical girl stuff.

Zipman rules.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2019 19:14

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

FrozenPhoenix71 posted:

Seems like it's also JB, as they're apparently dropping all Weekly Jump series.

EDIT:https://jaiminisbox.com/blog/2019/12/19/a-new-era/

Their announcement

Calling it We Can't Study until the very last moment. Scanlators to the end. RIP MS and Jam.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 00:29

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

kidcoelacanth posted:

the problem with most harems is everyone falling over themselves because they're horny for what's usually a comically bland and uninteresting protagonist

This is exactly why We Never Learn is the best one. Yuiga is genuine.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2019 21:00

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

doomrider7 posted:

I'd say the real big problem is that they never give the female leads any characters to really interact with. They fall for the lead guy because he frankly seems to be the ONLY guy they interact with(outside of family that is).

This is exactly why We Never Learn is the best one.

Yuiga is basically the only guy they interact with so it does stumble there, but the girls are all such good friends with each other. That is part of what is gonna make the conclusion so painful.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2019 23:05

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Nate RFB posted:

WNL and Nisekoi are basically indistinguishable to me and everyone sure seemed to hate the latter.

I didn't hate Nisekoi but it wasn't nearly as compelling as WNL.

The girls in Nisekoi were cute but most of them only wanted Raku and his choice was clear from the beginning so it was a lot of wheel spinning. I still read it for the reaction faces and because it ran in the Jump issues and I enjoyed it most times but I don't love it the way I do WNL because the characters are just so much better.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 17:23

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Ethiser posted:

She�s going to say she�s just telling him for herself since she�s going abroad and push him towards the other two.

This is probably it and it's gonna break my heart. I'm a Furuhashi supporter to the end but I don't want to see Uruka get hurt.

hosed up to hear about the anime time skip though. I get it if a third season wasn't likely but it still sucks to skip content and potentially get an anime only ending. I thought we'd moved past those.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2019 19:28

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Irritated Goat posted:

I'm happy to wait on official releases but remembering what day stuff comes out or where I'm reading it kind of sucks. I guess I should start a spreadsheet?

Weekly Jump stuff almost always comes out on the same time on Sunday afternoons. I just check then. Dunno about monthlies, they all lost me.

If you need a spreadsheet though, most chapters do tell you at the end when the next chapter will come out.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2020 17:38

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

JosephWongKS posted:

My ideal ending would be for the schoolgirl trio to wipe each other out due to mutual jealousy-induced violence, Sensei to trap herself behind a wall of the messy garbage in her house, and best girl Senpai to snatch the dark horse victory in the Yuigabowl.

"For the love of God, Yuiga!"

# ¿ Jan 20, 2020 13:47

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Elfface posted:

Mitama Security is good fun too.

Mitama Security is legitimately hilarious and I am always sad that it doesn't get any chatter. It's such a good gag manga.

The bit the new chapter where all 9 Body members all assemble in one spot for no reason and then later Mitama gets sent flying through the huge gap they left by not spreading out absolutely killed me.

This is also why I thought Mashle was fine. It's Black Clover meets One in concept but it is an over the top gag manga and I am always down for gags. "Two uniforms in one day...?" was my favorite bit.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 16:05

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Darth TNT posted:

Zipman

So Zipman is really megamanning it up now.

Yeah, Zipman rules!

As for Uruka, I like her a lot and she is wonderful to Yuiga but unfortunately she is the first girl to get her big confession and conflict arc so she doesn't have a chance in hell unless this manga goes way into subversion. IMO he's gonna turn her down by saying he loves her like a sister or something (at which point Mizuki will implode like a dying star) and then we'll move on to knock down Senpai and Sensei in order to leave the final choice between Rizu and Furuhashi as the big cliffhanger choice.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2020 13:37

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Mulderman posted:

People use the X confessed first thus she can't win argument a lot. But how often does that really happen? I know WNL loves it's tropes every now and then. But it this a thing that always happens in romcoms, or just something people latch on to because a few big titles have done it in the past?

Honestly? I've only read a small handful of romcoms so I'm basically just going off of Nisekoi which went through a few "ticking the boxes" arcs to eliminate girls before going on to the final two, which were the only two that had a chance to begin with. IMO Furuhashi has yet to really confess or deal with her feelings for Yuiga and Rizu hasn't formally confessed yet, plus Senpai hasn't even formally acknowledged that she likes him. There's too much left to be done for Uruka to win here. It COULD happen because who knows really, but I think the odds are way low. It would be surprising if he does like her since he doesn't know anyone else likes him so it would be interesting if they just let him go without a fight or confess anyway and things get dramatic.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2020 16:12

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Spiderdrake posted:

It's a really weird creative manga that feels both chained to shonen and yet also not shonen enough.

Also the sexism is offputting and completely needless. In fact I think Daruma's master is a lady?

I can't say anything for Daruma because I can't retain anything from Samurai 8 past the newest chapter.

But yeah, there's no place for female characters in that manga. The whole "Princess" system is so lame and feels like a last minute addition to the world after Kishimoto realized he forgot to add any female characters.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 15:04

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

Dexo posted:

You can just feel the pain.

This is the face of the most wonderful person supporting their best friend while they make a terrible mistake

# ¿ Feb 18, 2020 15:41

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

It's so good, but it sucks that there's like a 40 chapter gap in the jump app.

Yeah I'm pretty eh on scans these days so it's right there with Yaiba and Haikyu as a series I want to read but am waiting for the vault to have it all before diving in.

Also I'm sure people have proposed a WNL thread in here before but welp, I guess we can't study heyoooo wait no that doesn't work at all

# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 01:12

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

The Last Saiyuki at least did the usual "and so their adventures continued" thing. The sudden time skip in Zipman is super jarring, as is how long it seems to be going for. If you have notice of the axe, why have the MC spend two chapters fighting this guy?

In other news I am so happy about this WNL twist. On one hand sure, narrative integrity and complete storytelling and all that. But on the other hand, I get to see Fumino win in an alternate universe and thanks to Tsutsui's cowardice I didn't have to suffer through seeing her confess and get rejected before the "Canon" Uruka ending. I can absolutely live with that.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 15:54

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

dogsicle posted:

unluck got weird in a way i think i very much am into...like greed island + o-parts hunter

Yeah I was wavering on whether or not I was into it up until now but this chapter solidly got me on board.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2020 19:19

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 08:17

Cipher Pol 9: Oct 9, 2006

I started watching the Beastars anime.

I knew nothing about it other than seeing the manga covers with animal people in suits on them. Based entirely on this, I had assumed it was an animal-people office comedy.

Jesus loving Christ, I was wrong. It's good though

# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 03:59

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