MechaCrash posted:

I think that one key difference between the Wii U and Virtual Boy, at least as far as the current situation is concerned, is that the technology to do the Virtual Boy's gimmick properly just did not exist at the time. The Wii U, however, does its schtick in a perfectly serviceable manner, and making a console that has the tablet controller and can keep up with the other consoles is perfectly doable, Nintendo just didn't do it. Admittedly because it would've been pretty spendy, but the fact remains that it's not an inherently unworkable idea.

The Taint Reaper posted:

It's doing worse than the Dreamcast.

melon cat posted:

It really seems like this is one of the reasons why Nintendo hasn't been able to compete with Microsoft, Sony, or even the PC market. Since Japanese companies don't lay-off or transition employees to other positions, they simply can't adapt to the new market and this is what's killing them. Every time Nintendo makes a big announcement, it's always some 50 to 60 year old man who barely speaks English. ie. the same guys who were doing the driving almost 30 years ago. Heck, Hiroshi Yamauchi was the company's President from 1949 to 2002. They're so out of touch with their audience that it's just incredible.

Darko posted:

In conjunction with this, software is just as much marketing as it is programming. You need a perfect dual marriage of the studies to be an efficient software house, and both need to constantly update and be fresh and new. Nintendo is neither.

ohnoitschris posted:

I just want it to sell well so it attracts 3rd party developers and they put out more games on the Wii U and then I'll never have to buy a Bone or a PS4

AngryCaterpillar posted:

Every title is intended to have an accumulative effect on a consumer's interest in the platform. No one title is created with the expectation that people will buy the system for only that one game. DKCTF is no different than Smash Bros or Mario Kart or SM3DW.

AngryCaterpillar posted:

That's what I was saying, although very few people buy a system with the intention of buying only one game, it could be any singular game that initially sells someone on the system. As for the reviews concerning themselves with this, I can only say it would be really weird if movie reviews were based on the reviewer's investment in the studio's business decisions.

Motto posted:

This is a joke, right? Both those games are niche, and one still doesn't have a name and the other hasn't been shown at all and may not exist.

Louisgod posted:

This isn't even remotely true, why do you think this is true. Stop saying untrue things.

Paper Jam Dipper posted:

I'm probably late but the real issue of the review debacle is not just a videogame problem. A lot of the 7/10 reviews were generally negative but they didn't want to look like they were slamming a well made game so they gave it a "decent" score because all people do is read scores. They didn't have the balls to just say they didn't like the game. You can see the same thing in the AV Club review of the House of Cards second season. You could tell the reviewer had nothing but negative feelings about the series and expressed negatives in all but maybe one paragraph but the season review score? B.

I think that's why I appreciate guys like Jim Sterling. I loved NES Remix. He didn't. What does he give it? **/*****, which is clearly saying he felt it was medicore and the review represents that.

"Oh Nintendo, what are we going to do with you?" isn't what you say about a 7/10 game. That's what you say about a 3/10 game.

greatn posted:

They can't. The people causing the problems are the same people running the company and on the board, and they just spent a sizable amount of the company's nest egg to make sure Nintendo owns majority of it's own stock and its decisions can't be questioned.


Actually he's never earned that much compared to western executives. Nintendo executives have never been paid all that highly. He probably earns less than a million even before his salary was cut.

blackguy32 posted:

Gamecube at the very least got ports of other games. Sure, they may have had features cut from them, but they were decent at the very least, but that was probably because it was on par with the competition.

Louisgod posted:

The X-Box was more powerful and had better audio options. I know that when there was a game being released for all three systems that I wanted I'd usually just buy the GameCube version since it tended to have better load times.

Astro7x posted:

This company, I swear...

melon cat posted:

They may not have ridiculous CEO wages, but if Nintendo's any indication of Japanese business culture their CEOs do have ridiculous tenure. And that's just as bad because their CEOs keep their jobs even if the company falters under their leadership.

Hiroshi Yamauchi (Iwata's predecessor) served as Nintendo's CEO for 53 years. Iwata has been CEO for ~12 years, and has given no indication of stepping down. For most Western compabies, average CEO tenure is 6 years.

And as an added note- Japan's CEOs definitely aren't the frugal, humble types that some people in this thread seem to be claiming they are. In 2013, Yamauchi was the 13th richest person in Japan and the 491st richest in the world

Macaluso posted:

Cause it's silly and he's a new character in a game that's literally coming out tomorrow

edit: The fact that you apparently can only play as him in co-op sucks though. I'm never playing Tropical Freeze with another person. I got mad enough at DKCR doing some of the harder levels on my own

Kabanaw posted:

You can only play as Cranky on his own in co-op. In single player you play as DK but you can have Diddy, Dixie, or Cranky as partners and use their powers.

AngryCaterpillar posted:

TheKingofSprings posted:

This would almost work if that game weren't developed by Arzest.

Which if anything is just more strong evidence of Nintendo having horrible, horrible taste in the studios it outsources to.

Fremry posted:

Said in a thread about the sales and marketing choices of Nintendo.

Fremry posted:

Honestly, the moment I lost faith in Nintendo was after buying the 3DS, the only games worth buying were all remakes. There's only so many times I can play Zelda: OoT before I'm done with you as a company. It's an absolute shame because as a kid born in the 80's, Nintendo defined so many of my childhood memories.

IronicDongz posted:

a catalog of mostly remakes.

Motto posted:

Aren't we talking about ports, not remakes? All OOT3D did was insert better models and include the Master Quest version, and DKCR is a port with some extra levels and an easy mode.

lynch_69 posted:

The WiiU is still a doomed system. Mario Kart, Zelda and that Smash Brothers game won't do squat in turning round the fortunes of a console with zero third party support. They'll sell well enough to the installed base who bought WiiU's and are desperate for any software, but that's about it.

greatn posted:

David Gibson just tweeted about Iwata's Nintendo stock and salary. My wife and my combined income is actually more than what Iwata is paid in salary each year, which is frankly insane. Just a tiny amount for an executive of a huge multinational corporation. Though his stock is worth somewhere around 8.5 million, so he's still a wealthy man. It's just hard to believe how different executive pay is in some corporate cultures.