Andrigaar posted:

I officially dub this a silly game:

But it's also more PSO.

kirbysuperstar posted:

General dicking around pictures incoming.




THUG LIFE

kirbysuperstar posted:

So hey, here's a PSO2 Vita guide I've written up.

Preface

So, PSO2 is available for the Vita. Vita users can play with PC users (though only on blocks 201-236) and can use both wifi and 3G data services to play. There’s no offline mode, but you can freely mess with the character creator and take augmented reality photos of your space elf while not connected to the internet.

The game itself is still free to play, no change there. You can download it from the PSN store and play without paying a yen. The initial download is 3GB, and as of the Episode 2 update there's another 2GB to come down, so make sure you have enough space - shell out for a 16GB or 32GB card if you can. However, due to the Vita only supporting a single account, you have to have a Japanese PSN/SEN account to do this. And, due to recent firmware changes, you now have to format your system (and memory card, unless you have another to devote to a Japanese account) to switch between accounts. A huge pain in the rear end. It also means the game's trophies will be on your Japanese account, rather than your EU/US account, if that's important to you.

There is another way, however. The game was released on a physical game card as a "Premium Pack". By purchasing and using this, you can play the game on any region account you wish. It also comes with some stuff - a month's worth of premium, some CAST parts, some outfits, a couple of weapons. It is a bit pricey though, Play-Asia have it listed for $50 sans delivery costs.

Also, it should be made clear that when you sign in to your PSO2 account, the Sega and Sony accounts will be bound to each other, so you can't log in to another Vita that has someone else's PSN account active. Only recently has Sega started letting people unbind, and even then you have to explain to them why you would like to do so (i.e., "I was trying it out on a friend's system and didn't realize that would happen").

Getting Set Up

Either download the game or buy the premium pack. On the LiveArea screen, hit the refresh button and begin the long, arduous process of updating. Depending on your connection, you might want to just plug it in and let it do it overnight.



When the update is done, either hit the update button again or start the game to install the update.



Upon the first boot, it’ll create some save data..



Then you’ll get the title screen. Hit Start, agree to the TOU as usual and you come to the start menu.



From top to bottom, the options are:

• Login
  
• Change Sega ID details (loads a page in the browser)
  
• Augmented Reality mode
  
• Character creator
  
• Credits
  
• Online Manual (loads a page in the browser)
  
• Return to title screen
  

Augmented Reality mode allows you to take pictures of your character standing around on your desk or whatever. To use it (with anything but the default characters), you have to sign in and use the last option (ポートレート用データ保存) at the visiphone. You can save three characters for AR use, but they’ll only have the costume you’re wearing when you save them.

Hit Login and you’ll be asked to choose your ship.



After that is the login prompt. Reminder! - this will bind your PSN and Sega ID accounts if you proceed.



Once that’s done you just take the first option and select your character..





And you’re in!

All the menus are the same, with the exception of things like item and CO lists being paginated instead of scrolling - you can switch pages with the d-pad, and use square to mass mark things for sale/storage/etc.

If you bought the premium pack, you can redeem your items by inputting the codes on the included sheets at the Visiphone (Item Code option).

Playing

The controls are a little different to the PC version, due to having less buttons, but if you’ve been playing with a gamepad they should be fairly familiar for you.

X - Jump/Cancel
O - Dodge/Confirm/Pickup
Square - Attack
Triangle - Photon Art
L/R Analogue sticks - Movement/Camera
D-pad Up/Down- Weapon/Subpalette switching
D-pad Left/Right - Autorun/Over-the-shoulder-zoom
Start - Menu
Select - Quick Menu
L - Lockon
R - Modifier (Guard/Second PAs/etc)
Subpalette items are used by touching their icons on the screen. You can also tap on other players to view their info/imitate etc (like clicking on them on the PC).

There’s a couple of preset control schemes, and you can customize it yourself also.

Vita users have blocks to themselves, and blocks 201-236 are shared with the PC client for cross-play. Vita blocks have a lower capacity, so keep that in mind.

Obviously, you can't use the English patch on the Vita version of the game, so I'd recommend getting used to menu and shop items on the PC client beforehand. It also makes Client Orders a bit tricky, unless you can read Japanese, so expect to need Cirnopedia or something accessible. Buying items you want from the player shop would also be trickier.

Communication

You want to talk about how many Adamans you got todaychat with all your goon buddies, right? Of course you do. As the Vita doesn’t quite have the screen real-estate of your PC, the chat window is generally hidden. Tap the little bubble icon in the lower-right (sorry it’s hidden by the PSO2 logo), and you bring up the quick communication menu.


You can quickly use your chat shortcuts and symbol arts from here, press triangle to change what channel they go to. Tap that icon again though and you bring up a big chat interface that shoves the game into the corner, not unlike PSO1 did in menus.



Here you can build your obnoxious chat message with cutins, outlines, graphics, etc. The button near the tabs up top changes the destination channel, the orange button does something - I'm not sure what. The big one sends, and the lower-right button brings up the chat log. Note that by default, the chatlog is in reverse to the PC version - new messages are on top.



You can change this by hitting Start, going to the Gear (settings) icon, pick the third item (Options), then the fourth item in this menu (Communication Settings). Go to the second page with the d-pad, the last option changes the chat order.



You can also bring up a small, permanent chat log window by tapping on your own character. It does eat a bit of space, however, and it isn't transparent.

For reference, the channels are:

1. All
   
2. Nearby
   
3. Party
   
4. Team
   
5. Whisper
   
6. Character
   
7. System
   

Also, the built in macros like /ci7, /toge, /symbol$, /la etc all work in both the full chat and your shortcuts, so go hog wild.



How does it look/play?

Obviously it can't look as good as the PC version, but all in all, not too bad. It doesn’t run at the Vita’s native resolution, and they tend to overdo the bloom effects. The game can run at 60fps at times, but is more likely to be around 30fps, with huge dips when lobbies are packed with people (Falz o’clock). Funnily enough, though, all the hair and clothing physics are intact.

The controls take a little bit of getting used to (and lock-on defaults to lock instead of hold), but it’s very playable and pretty impressive.




Closing

That’s about the basics of PSO2 for Vita. If anybody has any questions, please feel free to ask me.

Aenslaed posted:

Quad I think is just over the top because of the complexity and or neccessary rebinds to pull it off. I'll go over a few here. The basic idea is that you do 'something' to override the cooldown delay after you step (hereforth "dash"). Because blue guns and yellow t-atk stuff have their own evasion type (dive roll and mirage escape respectively), they cannot be used to do this.

Double Dash (aka Dash Jump Dash)
Requires: Any Orange s-atk weapon including Gunslash.
It is the most basic and works with every class. It is simply dash, jump right after and air dash immediately after. Repeat when your char hits the ground. Very important: some weapons have terrible dash distances *cough swords cough* so you want to be doing this with partizans or knuckles ideally. This is marginally faster but has immediate start up time. Use this while fighting for best effect to counteract that period in which your char is accelerating from a dead stop.

Step Attack Cancel (aka Knuckle Dash or Dagger Dash)
Requires: Knuckles or Daggers and Step Attack skill.
This is next up and is probably the easiest to do and also very macro friendly. You will use your step attack skill as the 'something' in this case to cancel the dash delay. Dash, attack, dash, attack, repeat. For kb+m users, hold down W, and Left mouse, and tap your evade button (x). You can button mash if you want and can macro the button mashing. Using knuckles is faster if you have knuckle gear in the fighter tree. If you do not have the gear, use daggers instead.

Triple Dashing
Requires: Two Knuckles or Daggers (or one of each) and Step Attack. Rebinding your weapon switch keys.
This dash is a combination of Double Dash, Knuckle/Dagger Dash and a new 'something thrown in, weapon switching. You start with a Double Dash and Step attack to end the air dash. At this point, you switch weapon. By default, the weapon switch shortcuts are number pad 1 through 6. If you are a concert pianist, then this wont be a problem for you. If you aren't, then visit the options menu and rebind the keys to either the number key row or the f key row. You cannot use the F/R/Mouse wheel method as it must be done in 1 key press. What this will accomplish is the removal of the jump animation from Double Dash and you will appear to dash two times in a row on the ground and air dash once. You cannot have the same weapon in two slots as there will be no weapon switch animation otherwise.

Dash Jump Dash Attack Switch1 Dash Jump Dash Jump Dash Attack Switch2 Dash Jump Dash Jump Dash Attack Switch1 etc. The italicized jump is what you wont see.

You can have two of the same weapons however (ie two nishikis). If you are having problems, try practicing it slower, focusing on hitting the step attack properly.

Triple Dash + Assault Buster
Requires: Two Knuckles or Daggers (or one of each), a Partizan and Step Attack. Hunter main or subclass. Rebinding your weapon switch keys.
The same as triple but interjecting a switch to partizan when you have enough PP. From the previous example, instead of switch1, you would switch partizan, dash, assault buster till out of PP, dash jump dash attack switch1. Also doable with Straight Charge (distance isn't as great).

Rodeo Drive
Requires: Launcher and Ranger Subclass.
Rodeo drive is actually the fastest in the game by a hair, if you cancel out of it. If you've used the Rodeo Drive PA before, you'll notice that it does a spin right at the end. The movement trick is to forward dive roll just before the twirl, maximizing forward travel. Rodeo again as soon as the Dive Roll animation completes. Supplement with Double Dash using all class weapon of choice (partizan/knuckles/daggers/GS).

RA/HU Special (aka Rodeo Drive + Dagger Dash)
Requires: Ranger main and Hunter subclass. Launcher, all class daggers.
One of the neat things the most recent level cap introduced was the hybrid RA/HU build. If you chose to devote a hunter skill tree to this build, you would have access to Step Attack while also having Rodeo Drive. Like above, you would Rodeo Drive roll cancel but instead of Double Dash, you will Step cancel with daggers instead.

Rodeo Drive and the RA/HU Special are faster than Triple Dash in shorter distances and is very easy to pull off.

If you are wondering where the movement tricks for FO and TE is, well, there are none(yet).

I strongly discourage people from doing triple dash or faster as it is totally unnecessary. Simply dropping the pattern once will negate any speed advantage you had over a macro'd knuckle dash. This is for showing off or for the technicians amongst us.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Also if you aren't in Nol Vancancy, you should be, for the following:

Sitting around in the team room messing with the word filter instead of playing


Synchronized lobby dancing while waiting for Emergency Quests to commence


Quest counter gangbangs when the EQ commences

Herb Stencil posted:

Me and a few other goons did the Nab EQ the other night and I decided to record it. Many hours of kicking myself for recording in flv instead of avi later and I produced this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFiA9qphSr8

Cheap Trick posted:

A few weeks back, I was tooling about with PSO2 and all the patches installed, including the story patch. Progress was slow-going, and I'd barely reached level 5. I was in the Rag Rappy Capture (?) mission; upon zoning into the second area, all I could do was move my camera around and the game didn't respond. "gently caress this game," I thought, and logged out to do more productive activities like sorting my collection of limited-edition Doritos packets.

Fast-foward to last night. In the interim, I'd reformatted my PC for other reasons. I caught up with this thread and discovered that the story patch could cause the game to break in such a fashion. So I reinstalled the PSO2 client and patched up, and logged in to do the Rag Rappy mission again.

Before jumping into the portal, I remembered the Goon Online Gaming Creed: "Never Play Alone". Hopping into the IRC channel, I quickly garnered an invite into Nol Vacancy. This is when things started happening:

I finished the Rag Rappy mission easy-peasy and got my first Mag.

I also handed in a bunch of other Client Orders, rocketing me from level 6 straight to level 11.

Then I went into the Forest Free Exploration quest. I was joined by a big buff green-and-black Cast Hunter by the name of Balthasar 2.0, and we proceeded to lay waste to all and sundry. PSE element and XP bonuses rapidly pinged one after another next to the zone map. Sometimes I'd get weird things showing on my screen, like warp-drive effects from the depths of hell, or a window would appear at the top of my screen with a VU meter or some squiggles inside.

After a while of running around in Forest, the blessed words popped up on my screen: PSE BURST. Rappys and wolves and birds swarmed me one after another, only to be reduced to their component molecules by myself and my homicidal robot NPC partner Lisa who was also along for the ride. A minute later, the fun stopped, but only temporarily: the PSO gods bellowed "One more!" and PSE BURST appeared again. And then it happened for a third time. I was immersed in a haze of rifle shots and grenades and dying wildlife and HONK HONK HONK as I ran out of inventory space from picking up all the loot and and and

tl;dr: Join Nol Vacancy, it'll change your life.

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

What happened to the English localization? Did they cancel it?

Xavier434 posted:

I don't blame the attitude towards localization given what we know, but I do find it rather misleading to say that it is delayed indefinitely in the OP. The fact is that we don't know that.

Photex posted:

I've been really interested in this since i started playing PSO on my PSP. Is this worth the download even though i'm assuming it's not in english?

sexual Norm posted:

Can anyone estimate how much damage i'll be losing from the final product, percentage-wise, if I try to use my male cast as a force?

Mediocrity Goggles posted:

I sure would like to know what this super secret team you're referring to is, and why they have all the goons that could be joining us instead.

I am the leader of Nol Vacancy, the original Ship 2 goon team made several months ago. Thanks to the efforts of like... one guy running team orders on and off the past few months, we have reached team level 2 and already have a team room... which isn't much at all sadly. We technically have 26 members, but really it's just Chibs, and I'm just saying that cause he's the only one who was on the registry from this team, I can't even call myself an active member anymore.

Mediocrity Goggles posted:

That's certainly not the case, literally every member was an officer, or at least at last time I messed with it months ago. I think it was just because everyone involved kinda quit playing at once, and people who don't play can't invite.

Tengames posted:

I think a few plurals are in the swear list, but its most likely done that way so you don't have it block words like "assembly" and "screwdriver"

kirbysuperstar posted:

Also if you aren't in Nol Vancancy, you should be, for the following:

Sitting around in the team room messing with the word filter instead of playing


Synchronized lobby dancing while waiting for Emergency Quests to commence


Quest counter gangbangs when the EQ commences

Protocol 5 posted:

Online game with lots of weird undocumented mechanics and a bunch of character customization options = tons of spergs and creepers. I made a male character that looks middle-aged to ensure I wouldn't ever get into any painfully awkward conversations about his appearance.

Anyway, theres a new preview for the 1 year anniversary update with some new info. Not a whole lot of time right now, so just some highlights:

• Special level 60 Dark Falz EQ that is not part of the regular rotation, new drops for special and regular versions, higher drop rate for special version, fingertips now easier to break and give new drops.

• That stupid loving singer is going to have concerts in the lobby that will be announced like EQs. No word on whether or not they will interfere with the EQ rotations or if they can be muted.

• ARKS Bingo. Complete conditions to fill in squares, the more the you complete the better the rewards.

• Big V's EQ time window increased from 15 to 30 minutes.

Protocol 5 posted:

Persona Soul will be nice for Gunslash users, even if the melee PAs aren't that great comparatively. If it drops on units, I'll have to redo my whole melee set.

Umberger posted:

Also of note is that +50% drop rate is pretty decent for farming AQ stones (I believe someone mentioned that capsule drop rates are unaffected by rare drop boosts though).

Surprise Noodle posted:

There...were no higher level or rare nanoblasts. There were 4 options, all of which you unlocked at level 20.

Tengames posted:

Yeah, normally you're supposed to see that boss if you go to that spot(2 ragne's also show up there , but those might have been a placeholder before the boss was added)

Cerulily posted:

OK i am in block 4. where abouts are you?

Chibs posted:

Time to turn BGM back on you assholes, motherfucking City Escape time.

Protocol 5 posted:

So the launcher that drops off Falz Arms is 9 stars, 430/752, all classes, 450 DEX. DEX req aside, it's not bad.

fuxxo posted:

Dawnfire posted:

Congrats, you jerk goon! What'd you get it off of?

Sonny Cheebah posted:

Yes. I move that it be added to the OP.

Dawnfire posted:

Once any 4 arms are destroyed the second phase will begin. Falz will enrage, erupt with purple wings, and 3 new pairs of arms will spawn. The goal is about the same, take out those shiny new arms. However, he'll remove the indestructible hands from his core and start using them for attacks. So, be sure to not swing at them when he stretches them out.

The difficulty will come in that the final, upper 2 pairs of arms will not stretch out and attack at the party. They will only be within reach and stretched when Falz has been shocked. This is why you'll frequently see later ends of this stage involving most of the party waiting and forces spamming electric attacks. Others can aid in this process by using weapons with the 'shock' status. Falz, unfortunately, can also only be shocked a certain number of times (I believe it is 4, but I may be wrong on this number) Falz gains resistance to being shocked as he gets shocked, to the point that anything more than 4 shocks is uncommon, so the suggestion is to avoid using shock weapons or spells until the second phase.

If you manage to do that and all of the new set of arms are destroyed, then Falz will already be near death. Finish him off by picking your favorite weak point and you've got the preferred Elder run. Congratulations!

Edit: If I've missed any major details, feel free to point them out.

Argas posted:

With or without UI?