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pumpinglemma posted:This is not correct. They've said that it will be possible to earn a few boosters in PVE without the Auction House, although they'll probably be pretty rare since boosters are Cryptozoic's main form of revenue. Probably the best realistic case is boosters as a prize for a high-end raid you can do once a week or so. Where did they say that? I had this exchange with them over kickstarter messaging a few days ago quote:Thursday May 9 2013, 7:10pm EDT quote:Cryptozoic Entertainment So my understanding is that that wasn't decided yet. Of course for all I know it has been in the meantime. Has anyone heard if they're going to make any non-basic energy cards? I'm not sure how they would since it looks like they don't even remain as cards after being played.
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That black vs. humans stream was kind of painful to watch when the narrator kept getting screwed by the graveyard card not working correctly. If I'm calculating it right he would have won the 3rd game if it had done its job. You expect some stuff like that in a pre-alpha but it still made me cringe.
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May 25, 2013 19:55
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Some Numbers posted:1) How many copies of a card in a deck? I'm pretty sure this is 4. One of the pieces of equipment they've shown allows you to put a fifth copy of a particular card (the shock analogue I think) in your deck.
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May 26, 2013 03:01
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I think it was a bit silly how big of a loser the Guild Leader tier was before they added the year of drafts to the 250s. With grand king sold out odds are anyone is going to be able to find a guild with the guild leader effect (unless guilds are limited to 10 people or something stupid). That left you with 90 boosters which was easily beaten by getting another king tier.
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May 26, 2013 21:57
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Exclusive posted:Am I the only one who gives 0 fucks about PvE? In fact I'd be ecstatic if they scrapped that idea altogether. I'm a scumbag casual who enjoyed Duel of the Planeswalker's singleplayer so if they make an MMO's worth of that type of content with actual deck building I think that will be pretty awesome. $250 is way over what I'm willing to spend on the Kickstarter though, so it didn't effect what tier I pledged at. I think the rate at which PP sold out doesn't necessarily mean there are way more people interested in the PvP aspect, just that there are way more people interested in the PvP aspect who are willing to drop $250 to kickstart a game that may end up being DoA 6 months out (I hope not, but I've played plenty of games where this has happened so I'm definitely not ruling it out). edit: The lack of info about PvE and the fact that it won't be in the beta at launch probably also hurt those tiers. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 28, 2013 |
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May 28, 2013 21:49
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Doesn't the WoW TCG have raiding tournaments? It's not exactly PvE since there's a dungeon master type player playing the raid deck, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some kinds of competitions in that format.
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May 29, 2013 01:11
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May 29, 2013 02:07
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I think it's probably X damage to both targets, but I was really posting that to point out the win/loss record 
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May 29, 2013 02:34
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Vincent Valentine posted:I think what he was mentioning was the equipment on it. What is the Eye of Creation deck? If you have that piece of equipment on it, does it just pull from a starter deck or something rather than your own deck? I'm not basing this on anything in particular, but I'd assume it's some deck of powerful cards that can only be accessed through that item (the deck can only be accessed that is, not the cards). Also, there was a goon named Time Master who posted some cool stuff in the draw every day thread like 7 years ago. It's probably a reference to him.
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May 30, 2013 23:20
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BenRGamer posted:Huh, apparently, the Alternate Art PvP cards Collectors get are all going to be Rare or Legendary. That makes sense, they'd have a lot of angry backers if they were just giving out alternate versions of Goblin Piss-boy or whatever.
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May 31, 2013 20:20
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Mr. Peepers posted:Have they mentioned this before? Something like player houses? One of the stretch goals was some sort of keep defense minigame. You'd get to set up your keep's defenses and attack other people's keeps.
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May 31, 2013 22:15
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signalnoise posted:The thing that kills me about it is that, well I forget where I read it, but I read something about the guild bank basically being the equivalent of when you and your friends pool your cards. I did this when I was a kid with Magic, and our collection suddenly filled a duffel bag. It was a huge selection. They're really trying to limit that, and it's bullshit. Well, bear in mind at the end of the day their goal is to sell you more cards. If they let a bank for an entire guild of dozens of anonymous internet strangers work like this they'd have people being able to field top tier competitive decks without spending a dime. The larger the guild got, the fewer cards its members would have to buy. It sucks for people who would have been in the "handful of friends with a duffel bag full of cards" category, but I guess that might be one of those ways in which a digital TCG is worse than a physical one. I suppose if you're dealing with people you'd trust with your black lotus you could just give them your account info and ask them to keep track of what they're borrowing.
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Jun 1, 2013 03:31
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Rhaegar posted:It seems to me that the 1.8m stretch goal is really going to be a stretch based on how much it's going up daily. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people start upgrading their pledges on the last day, in addition to the typical final day surge.
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JesusIsTehCool posted:So this has got me questioning this game. Eh, most of the Coyotle art is just fine and not especially furry looking. That particular one looks more generally crappy than furry anyway. If they just fixed the weird head it would be like 50% better. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jun 1, 2013 |
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Jun 1, 2013 18:51
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Jedit posted:
That doesn't look as bad as the hydrocephalic coyotle babe, but on the other hand I had to stare at it for like 10 seconds for my brain to parse what was going on. I doubt that anything with a skeletal structure similar to a human's could actually make that pose.
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Jun 1, 2013 20:22
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You have to actually do the drafts to get the boosters right?
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You can buy PvE stuff with it. So it depends on how much people end up valuing PvE \/\/
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Jun 4, 2013 01:28
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geeksauce posted:I haven't played Magic (or any other TCGs) for almost a decade now, but I'm considering backing this. I enjoyed MTG; I just didn't have the money to keep up with all the expansions and such. With this, I like the fact that I can just PVE and AH my way to more PVP cards and won't have to invest crazy amounts of money. It's a bit of the gamble that this will actually be a thing you can do unless you're willing to work for 50 cents an hour. Maybe, but maybe not.
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Jun 5, 2013 11:00
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pumpinglemma posted:New update! The key points: I was pretty surprised how terrible the slacker tier is compared to the KS tiers. It's barely 1/3 better than just buying in when the game comes out. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if boosters were devalued at launch due to the massive amount of them circulating for KS rewards so it might actually be worse!
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Karnegal posted:Do we assume that the slacker tier gets you into the beta? Because that alone would probably be enough to drag people in after the fact. The email doesn't say anything about that. I don't want to assume anything we don't have evidence for, but on the other hand it seems natural that it would.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:57
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What a Judas posted:Why hasn't anyone been talking about how they mentioned in the stream that the Dungeon Crawler tier doesn't actually double your drops, rather giving you two rolls on the table giving you the best result of the rolls? That's what they said on the stream, anyway. Say the loot table for a boss is: 0-20 Dancing Elf 21-40 Mincing Elf 41-60 Fencing Elf 61-80 Fancy Elf 81-100 Prancing Elf Someone without DC would roll a 101 sided die once and get one elf, someone with DC would roll it twice and get 2 elves.
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What a Judas posted:No, they made it very clear on the stream that you would get 2 rolls but you would only get one of the results: the better of the two. Really? Ugh, I'd been hearing it the other way pretty consistently. On the kickstarter it says "100% extra loot drop from dungeon bosses FOR LIFE!" which definitely makes it sound like you end up with twice as many items. Is there a recording of the stream?
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Tamba posted:The worded it a bit strangely, but I still think The Moon Monster's interpretation is correct After listening to this I believe what he was trying to say was that -You don't roll once and get that dropx2. Rather, you roll twice and get one drop for each roll- I could be wrong, but considering the description on the kickstarter page says you get extra items, NOT better items I'm pretty sure that's what he was getting at.
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Zurai posted:No, there's a 0% chance that you only get one drop, because there would be a massive PR shitstorm about it. That blatantly contradicts the description of the Dungeon Crawler bonus, which is explicitly +100% loot. Two rolls, one drop is +0% loot. Yeah, the ONLY time they've given an explanation where "You roll twice and take the better roll" MIGHT be the case is a sort of ambiguous statement in that video, which plenty of people don't even interpret that way. In every other explanation, most importantly the one on the kickstarter frontpage itself, it's pretty clear that you get MORE loot. If they do mean you roll twice and get the better roll, I'd imagine so many people will get pissed off at the misleading kickstarter description that they'll change it anyway.
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I assumed they'd have 1 deck for each race.
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Making the final stretch goal something the majority of your backers will never see/experience/benefit from probably isn't great for their momentum.
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tijag posted:Oh. Excellent. When I read about the roll again thing, I thought '1 thing drops, I roll, but don't get it, so I can re-roll to see if I win!' Which A) seems really dickish if I'm in a group, and B) just plain didn't match up to the 100% extra loot thing. I guess normal dungeon PvE will be single player then, and my mistake was imagining 'dungeon' meant I would be in a group? The only grouped PvE content they've talked about is raids, which are 3 people and Dungeon Crawler doesn't apply to. They haven't said whether each member gets their own drops or you have to split them somehow. Or I haven't heard anything regarding that, at any rate.
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I hope they go with each player getting their own drops. It seems like everyone will always want every card that drops. It's not like your typical MMO where the magic wand is useless to the fighter.
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Zonekeeper posted:Yeah, the hard part will be completing playsets of the kickstarter exclusives, which a LOT of people will be gunning for from day 1. The PvP Kickstarter cards are just exclusive alternate art though, you can still get normal versions of them from packs.
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Bobbin Threadbear posted:I don't think they will neglect PvE at all. Yeah, the core premise of Hex is that it's an MMO, not just a digital cardgame with matchmaking.
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cathead posted:Not sure where you got your information from but Beta isn't until September with Alpha starting a few weeks earlier, so sometime in August most likely. If you missed out on the kickstarter (which it sounds like you did) your only choice is to get the Slacker Backer option. After that all there is to do is wait. Did they ever say alpha was going to be a few weeks before beta? I've noticed a lot of people saying that, but all I've seen from CZE is that alpha will be a few weeks long, not that beta would follow immediately after.
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cathead posted:Yes, Cory clarified in one of the streams that alpha would go on a couple of weeks before beta. Ah cool, thanks.
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Karnegal posted:Yeah, this. I wish it was a bit more myself. It would be nice to get 2-3 posts a week. I think keeping the community engaged and talking is a big deal. As much as I'm excited to play SolForge, that game poo poo the bed by going relatively silent for months. I've really lost interest in that game. The beta has basically just let you pit two preconstructed decks against each other for months now. Although they recently upgraded it so you can buy more decks. I'm sort of amazed they're charging money for a game in such an unfinished state.
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AlsoD posted:What does this symbol on cards mean? That card is a member of the ardent faction. No idea if that will have any gameplay impact or if it's just flavor.
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pumpinglemma posted:To be honest I think Games is a better fit even now. Literally every other thread on the first page of the forum is about physical games, and Hex is a video game. Some of the MTG threads have a good deal of MTGO discussion. The thread might be better off in games, or possibly MMOs, but I was under the impression that the mods had already discussed this and decided to put it here so the issue may already be decided.
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pumpinglemma posted:It's been confirmed that Primal packs are visibly Primal from the moment they're generated (and they can't be used in drafts). I'm a bit bummed there will be no such thing as a ~*Primal Draft  *~
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signalnoise posted:Can you imagine building a deck with nothing but rares/legendaries? I mean if they're designed right, rares should be the specialist cards, not the bread and butter of your deck. Last time I played MTG, Slivers were a big thing, and I cannot imagine building a deck around nothing but rares for that. I'll honestly be really irritated if rares and legendaries contain poo poo you'd want 4 of just to be low cost blockers. I just think it would be a fun format to try out. I mean, you'd be playing against other people who are equally limited. I could be completely wrong though.
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Now that updating isn't going to get them anymore kickstarter money I don't blame them for dialing it back. They said the updates took a lot of time, I'd rather they spend the time getting the game working. The odds of people just forgetting and losing interest seem like they must be lower then for a typical kickstarter, considering the average pledge was $130.
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BenRGamer posted:Of course, that numbers inflated because of all of the multipledging. Wouldn't multipledging deflate that number?
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katkillad2 posted:Set one is going to be a race to the bottom in value. I'm expecting set one packs to end up being less than $1 so the max value for a primal pack would be $15. ( Assuming that Legendary cards don't have a higher drop rate in primals compared to 15 packs, but then you also have to consider the value of the 135 commons and uncommons from buying 15 packs rather than a primal. ) If I recall correctly, the guy from Cryptozoic who posted in here a few times said they were planning to have a real beta followed by a wipe and soft launch where people will get their kickstarter rewards but is technically still beta.
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