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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Barry posted:

Totally agree.

I have a few friends that are heavy kickstarter backers - buying $500 worth of Cthulu miniature games and poo poo like that completely sight unseen. I think people get this sort of altruism/venture capitalist kick out of it and then actually (hopefully) end up with a product as well. Which is ok in small quantities but if you can't pay your electric bill because you're busy backing video games that you're not even interested in, seek help.

The best (or worst) part is that in every single post he (evilmiera) complains about having very little money. I think he believes it to be endearing, but it's just pathetic. Basically the equivalent of someone who kicks a wall real hard with his bare feet and goes, "gosh, I'm going to need my already broken toes treated again, aren't I?"

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

canyoneer posted:

A good article about being an Uber driver
http://citypaper.net/uberdriver/

A hilarious comment from a bad with money driver (aren't they all?)

I am so tired of reading about all the people whining about Uber pay and tactics. If you dont like it, then dont do it!!! i signed on as a driver in Dallas Texas. I just moved here and am trying to remodel a house to flip on the market in the next couple of weeks. I needed some income...(I normally work in Supply Chain Middle management, but needed time to get this house done.) Uber has been perfect for me! How many other jobs do you work whenever you want and however long you want as is convenient to you. You know what I think...if you dont like their pay structure, then dont do it!!! They have absolutely to the letter done exactly what they stated when I hired on. I dont like the 20% and think its a bit high, and lord knows I dont like the wear and tear on my vehicle which is a Hummer by the way...not the cheapest on upkeep, but this has been a lifesaver for me. When I needed some income while working on the house, this is what has paid my bills. I know of no other job that would give me this flexibility and still pay bills. I have been driving for Uber for about 6 weeks now, and am doing about 40 hours a week after working on the house every morning. I am able to start driving in a busy area at approximately 3pm and work as long as I want. I started a spreadsheet to calculate my expenses and have good accurate information for a 5 week period now. I average about $17.00 an hour in Dallas texas, 5 to 6 days a week., but more important to me is the numbers by Mlileage. I am averaging between $.65 and $0.80 per mile. The current government rate, which I have always found pretty generous, is currently $0.56 per mile which covers gas and wear and tear in theory. I am making money! and even if i was a lot closer to the government number, this has still been a lifesaver to me. I needed income right now, and what other job am I going to get that gives me the flexibility needed to do what I need to do????? Fast Food??? really???? at minimum wage and the mercy of their schedule???? I am 47 years old and that aint happening! Ifanyone out there plans on making this the career they retire from then they are fools. I have had nothing but great experiences with my riders, including wonderful conversation and tips as well. If you are not getting tips, then I believe that is your own fault. Doesnt anyone remember when you actually had to work for your pay? Again, if you dont like the structure or tactics of the company....then dont work for them!! This is free market capitalism at its best. Go work for Mcdonalds or Walmart and see how you like that one! This has been the perfect opportunity to give me the temporary consistent income I needed while having another personal project going at the same time.They offer their incentives(guarantees) and I have taken advantage of every one of them...They have paid and done EXACTLY what they said they were going to do. Again, If I didnt like the terms, then I can choose something else. So quit whining and do your job or quit and see if you can find something better. They are a company with the goal of making a profit.... Isnt this still America?There is no shortage of jobs In this country, just an abundance of people that feel entitled to more than the market demands….at least in Texas that is true. In conclusion, I am gratefull for the opportunity Uber has given me to still make some income on my own schedule for a period of time that I needed it. I am now beginning to job hunt in my real field, and in appreciation and practicality will use Uber as a rider whenever I get the chance.

:laugh:
"The $0.56/mile gas/maintenance/depreciation government recommended reimbursement is overstated! Especially when you drive a Hummer"

There's something about Uber and Lyft that attracts BWM types.

I got a Lyft ride from the airport a couple of weeks ago. The guy was riding a brand new and fully loaded Subaru Impreza. We started chatting and I asked what made him become a driver. He said he's doing it for his newborn son's slush fund. You know, have a little extra income to pay for the little one's expenses, that sort of thing.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a second.

I can actually imagine what must have been going through his head. "My car payments are X dollars per month, so as long as I make more than that, I'm good!"

We then started talking about houses (he was in real estate or some poo poo), and I told him I'm building my credit and might be buying one in a few years. He said, "the best way to build credit is to keep a balance. Never pay it off fully!" He then gave me his card and told me to contact him when I start looking. :lol:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Antifreeze Head posted:

I hesitate to see how everyone presented with a hundred large doesn't just say thanks and shove it all in their pocket. Who gives a poo poo about some people that may or may not even be real? If you are really in the giving mood, send 10% to a charity of your choice so you know it is actually going to get to someone that's is absolutely guaranteed not to be a construct of a TV network and call it a day.

Protip: most of the money donated to charities actually goes towards running the charity itself, or similar overhead expenses.

If you really want to change someone's life, I'd suggest Watsi, which actually funnels 100% of your donation to the recipient.

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Jul 4, 2007

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

May seemed to be a strong month, what with the increasing the overall household debt by about 1k. :wtc:

edit: Nice, car shopping on payment as well and a 7% car loan on what I assume is a new vehicle.

They also spend $120/mo on "Convenience Store (getting something to drink while driving somewhere/candy/etc)"

I think the last time I bought something from a gas station store was back in 2011 when my windshield wiper stopped working during a long road trip and I needed some clean water to wash something off the windshield. Even that made me feel a little bad.

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Jul 4, 2007

n8r posted:

Hah dude - you realize how crazy you sound saying that?

I'm not particularly frugal, I just hate spending money at convenience stores since poo poo is marked up so much.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Blinkman987 posted:

Why are people being so cordial to the OP in that Reddit thread? Every other thread I see with those types of numbers is full of people falling over themselves to tell the OP how stupid and pathetic they are.

I was surprised by that too, but my guess is that her medical condition and subsequent surgery garner her some sympathy.

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Jul 4, 2007


Worth noting that the kid himself isn't bad with money. He's saying that his grandfather used his identity to get him into so much debt.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Zauper posted:

When I was in San Fran a while back, I got an uber driver that was driving a volt.

He was leasing it at some really cheap rate because of all the rebates (~$150/mo?) and charged it at free charging stations in the city when things were slow. It seemed like a pretty clever way of doing it.

Ah yes, nothing like passing your private business expenses to the city, which is probably swimming in more money than they know what to do with!

Good with money for sure.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Cicero posted:

So the city built free charging stations, and now it's bad that someone is using them to charge for free? What?

He's driving a brand new Volt into the ground, and using free charging stations to charge it.

The phrase "penny-wise, pound-foolish" comes to mind.

Aside from that, yeah, I find it distinctly unethical that an independent contractor is taking a cost of doing business that would normally come out of his own pocket and passing it onto everyone else. I bet if this was a company operating a fleet of electric vehicles that were mooching off the city's free charging stations, people would be up in arms and demand that it pays extra taxes to offset its heavy usage.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Shipon posted:

Where is this world that everyone can and should be a business owner? Businesses need workers too, or do we gloss over that fact when everyone says if you're not an entrepreneur you're worthless?

Yeah, but why would you want to be a plebeian employee when you can be a captain of industry? :smug:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

blackmet posted:

His follow up question to them was always something along the lines of "If you put 10k in the account today, and tomorrow it was only worth $7,500, how would you feel?"

The answer to that determines how aggressive the investor really is. If they say they get that's a risk and are completely OK with it, then they're pretty aggressive. If they say they'd slit their wrists, they're actually conservative.

That's a horrible question. Tomorrow is meaningless. Investment is a long-term game.

He should be asking how they would feel if they put in 100k today and it is down to 50k in ten years.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

I want to invest but my religion expressly forbids me from taking interest.

quote:

Backstory: Muslims are expressly forbidden from ever taking or paying interest. This is important.
I just got a really comfy job where I get roughly 1000/month, but my bills are low enough that I can save 300-400 a month reliably. I can keep this job for the forseeable future, but I want to start making investments so I can have another income stream that can grow with time. I'm 19 atm, so hopefully I have a long time to let it grow. That said, I cannot take interest, which makes things a little more difficult. To keep things simple, this is how it breaks down:
stocks, since they are part-ownership are usually ok as long as it's not Haram, (banks, casino, insurance, pork, alcohol, etc).
Bonds, Derivatives, and etc are murky water. I don't know much about them so I can't determine their status.
Roth IRA and 401(k) are right out.
Given these rough guidelines, what would be my best option?

quote:

religion > money imo. One of the few points I won't compromise on.

:psyduck:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

hanales posted:

I hang out on the fico forums, because I was rebuilding my credit after being BWM for years. Now I try to give advice on things that I have learned over time and what has been successful for me. It's generally not a bad site, a lot of knowledgable people, and most people are on the right track, or legitimately don't know what to do so they seek help and get things fixed.

Other people though....


Someone at that dealership got a nice bonus this month.


Forget the interest. It's the mindset that baffles me the most: "I just bought two new cars, and I want another one in the next 6 months."

:psyduck:

And they are Chevys, for gently caress's sake. Might as well burn your money.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


hanales posted:

I'm on the first page and I"m horrified.

I read the entire thing. All 24 pages of it. Took a while, but I'd say it's much, much more entertaining (and horrifying) than both slomo's and zaurg's threads.

I really doubt anything posted here can top it, really.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

As someone on the first page says, I'm pretty sure "Star Wars" is a cheeky name for heroin.

Nah. She mentions movies and conventions. It's way too elaborate to be a euphemism.

Really, she hasn't yet realized that she has married a literal manchild who:

a) is in his 40s
b) maintains - and continues to spend obscene amounts of money on - growing a massive collection of star wars media and merchandise
c) has convinced her (and possibly himself) that he has "oral allergies" that prevents him from eating any fresh produce so that he can justify his eating out every meal
d) literally doesn't respond when faced with criticism, which is what actual children do when reprimanded
e) receives "birthday checks", probably from parents

Note that the woman is also a nutcase, and has insane issues such as feeling like she has to buy literally every piece of merchandise at concerts, and hanging onto empty food containers for weeks before she can bring herself to throw them out. So they really deserve each other.

I just feel really, really bad for their unborn child. He or she is going to be the weird kid that everyone makes fun of school.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Welp, she finally posted a picture and it appears she's for real.

I can't decide whether to laugh or cry. Maybe I'll do both.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Not a Children posted:

The picture was ripped from some article on raising children in slovenly houses from 2013, it's confirmed fake.

The OP is either a huge troll or a huge liar.

Uh, you're a bit behind. I'm not talking about the picture CCCG posted. I'm talking about this one, which she posted as proof of her band merchandise insanity:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Near the beginning of that thread she said something like, "I went to a concert in college but I was poor so I couldn't buy all the merchandise I wanted and I was really really sad, so now that I'm making some money I buy everything I can whenever I go to concerts and conventions."

Like I said, total nutcase.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

triplexpac posted:

Sometimes I'm glad my family is poor, so I don't have to worry about money tearing us all apart

Money tears apart poor families just as well. There's less of it to go around so people fight over it more desperately, especially when there's a windfall such as inheritance.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

NancyPants posted:

Sounds like...a...bank...?

thatsthejoke.jpg

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

I have it on p good authority that Blue Story's thread was a joke.

5% real, 5% call-for-help, 90% "LOL I TROLL U BY SLIGHTLY EXAGGERATING THE EXTENT OF MY SQUALOR"

Aren't you the troll who posted that fake photo, saying it's the one the OP sent you via PM?

Yeah sorry but you don't have much credibility left.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Chomskyan posted:

I knew a few friends who got involved with Vemma. It's funny because it was so obviously a scam right from the start. I mean you have to pay money to be their salesman. Anyone who's not a complete idiot has to raise their eyebrows at that. Top that off with a recruitment video a friend showed me where the founder of the company said that it should be illegal to work a regular job (because they're so boring and everyone should just sell energy drinks), and holy poo poo how did anyone fall for it? People want so desperately to get rich quick they will believe literally any lie.

I also had another friend who got involved with another two of these MLM companies. One was called LegalShield and the other Primerica or something and he literally would go door to door trying to sell retirement plans and legal insurance. The kicker about these programs was that unlike Vemma, where once you sold a product you could at least pocket a small profit, the LegalShield and Primerica companies depended on the people you registered staying on the program for a whole year. When someone dropped from the product before a year was up, the company would charge you back a prorate for what was left of their insurance term. They couldn't literally reach into your bank account, but basically you owed money to the company, which would be subtracted from future commissions. But he was convinced someday the company would make him rich, so he stayed on.

That, and a lot of people think they're smarter than everyone else, and want to believe that they've figured out the One Weird Trick to getting rich. Once they are onboard, they aren't likely to realize or admit that they got scammed, because that would be the equivalent of admitting that they are actually idiots.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Uh, that's why you donate anonymously through a third-party who handles the payments.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Barry posted:

Yeah I'm not getting some sort of third party involved for my $90/year museum membership. I'm not even sure how I'd receive the benefits if it was anonymous.

It's not that hard. You pay via PayPal or equivalent and the only thing the museum knows (and needs to know, to give you the benefits) is your name.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Subjunctive posted:

Given the amounts in question, I tend to want a tax receipt.

If you're donating so much that you want a receipt, you can make them sign a paper that says they won't sell your info. Most charities are desperate for donations and they will be happy to comply. I'm speaking from experience here.

This may sound like too much work but it's in your best interest to keep your name off of any "People Who Have Money" list.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Watsi is great.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Unemployment Insurance?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

cowofwar posted:

Beep boop beep getting non-STEM degree is illogical, calculating maximum cost/reward for all degrees, beep boop beep computer science is clearly superior. Beep boop those with arts degrees are therefore stupid. Beep boop.

Post more reddit BWM stories.

They aren't stupid, just bad with money. Which is literally the topic of this thread.

Hope this helps.

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Jul 4, 2007


Glad you agree.

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Jul 4, 2007

WobblySausage posted:




Man he should have went for that juicy CS degree.

Yet another proof that goons don't understand statistics.

gently caress, we don't even need reddit at this point, you guys are providing great BWM entertainment as it is.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

WobblySausage posted:

And apparently your grasp on making coherent arguments in the English language is lacking. Perhaps you should take some college courses for that. There's probably something in there on speaking in absolutes.

:allears:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

The Butcher posted:

Could be a repost since I'm reading some months back in the GBS confessions thread, but here ya go if not.

We don't just need to mine Reddit for Bad With Money, we got homegrown!

I absolutely don't understand how people can stay in relationships like that.

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Jul 4, 2007


That's about what you can expect from a mouthpiece of the establishment.

Everyone knows that bitcoin is the only option for currency.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

"Don't save money. Make more money."

:lol:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

SiGmA_X posted:

MORE BAD WITH MONEY, LESS DERAIL!

SMS, can we get derail bans back?

Not sure why you believe this is a derail. We are LITERALLY talking about people who are bad with money.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Judging by that wikipedia entry, he's probably better at flipping domains than houses.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Just found out today that one of my coworkers is BWM. It's a long story, but the short version is that his kid got diagnosed with autism and he and his wife decided to go on an anti-vaccine rampage... by suing the government. Over the past year they've spent an obscene amount in legal fees, and I overheard the other day that they sold their house in Arizona to be able to keep paying the legal expenses in the case. :psyduck:

I don't have numbers unfortunately, but I imagine suing the government must be expensive.

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Jul 4, 2007

BigDave posted:

Who the hell are they suing? Who can you sue for that anyway? FDA? HHS? CIA?

Whichever branch of the US government is responsible for public immunization policy, I think. If there is such a branch.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Subjunctive posted:

Is it even a federal thing?

I'm wondering the same thing. I don't care enough to go find out though. :)

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Jul 4, 2007

Vahakyla posted:

Bad with money: crippling energy drink consumption, multiple cans a day.


Good with money: realizing that I can take free cans of Red Bull from work as much I want. I've worked here for months and I just realized this.

I don't even know how much this saves me.

I hope they are sugar-free energy drinks.

Even then though, they put so much junk in those things you're better off drinking coffee.

I think I'd rather pay $1-2 for coffee than drink free Red Bulls.

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