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Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

NancyPants posted:

I bet I could get this dude to buy me poo poo

We should get him to buy us all giant mugs that say Truck Equity on them.

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Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003


Wait, how the gently caress is daycare $2100/mo for ONE kid? Is that right?

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Space Gopher posted:

That is exactly what's happening in a lot of Seattle neighborhoods, because it's not happening in a vacuum, by itself, with totally fungible Housing Units. Crappy, neglected, but cheap housing in a rapidly gentrifying and extremely high-demand area (where demand outstrips any reasonable pace of construction!) is being replaced by expensive luxury apartments. And, when the market should tumble back to earth, rents will remain high because the developers who threw up thousands of units during the boom will have to keep paying down their own debt.

Ballard is an excellent example - there's good supply, and if you want to rent an apartment there, you won't have much trouble finding an open unit in a nice new building. Their vacancy rate is actually the highest in Seattle. But, rents remain high, because all those new buildings put a floor on what landlords can charge before they go into the red themselves. Landlords of older, paid-off buildings will keep rents slightly lower but still high, because hey, it's an expensive neighborhood.

Buying 2 years ago in Seattle was one of the best financial decisions I've ever made. My house has gone up ~20% already.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

slap me silly posted:

Just enough gain to let you break even if you sell it!

My wife has a real estate license for this purpose alone.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Whiskey A Go Go! posted:

I was talking about fitness costs with a couple last night on a double date since we were joking about how the gyms are quiet now. When we broke down our personal budgets for fitness, I was really surprised how expensive some people go with this.

Monthly Fitness Budget for Girlfriend(Student, Part Time) and I (Working Fulltime)
Judo - $70 ($35 a person, free summer training from May to Aug as GF is a Black Belt)
Shared gym membership $22 a month
Supplements (Protein, multi-vitamins) $150 a month

Other Couples' Fitness Budget (Both Students, no jobs)
CrossFit Gym Membership $600 ($300 per person with a personal trainer)
BJJ for the Guy - $120 a month
Yoga for the Girl - $200 a month
Supplements (Stacks from bodybuilding.com) $450 a month

It doesn't surprise me since they go overboard with all their hobbies(anime, cosplay, gothic Lolita), but $1000+ for physical fitness is mind boggling. I guess you can't put a price on mental health recovery if it works for you.

I've been working out for over a decade and consider myself in great shape and I have no idea how you spend $150/mo on supplements let alone $450. What on earth are you buying?

Also I cut my gym fees quite a bit since I built a gym into my house. :smuggo:

Edit: If your multi-vitamins don't include glucosamine and msm you're bad with money because otherwise you will probably eventually get a joint injury requiring surgery.

Comrade Flynn fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Feb 10, 2015

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Guinness posted:

Also I'd like to see what some of these people spend on work-out clothing, because I know some people go absolutely crazy with it, especially the gym bro/yoga girl types. If they're spending hundreds of dollars per month on supplements I just know they're ALSO spending hundreds of dollars per month on Lululemon and UnderArmour.

My gym clothes are literally just free t-shirts I pick up at the video game conventions I attend for work and 3 pairs of 10 year old shorts. I weight lift bare oot as it's easier for squats.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

overdesigned posted:

"It's a 7-year loan, but it's only $180 a month!"

I'm considering a 12 year auto loan. But there is a method behind my madness. Maybe.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Wickerman posted:

I'm pretty sure that there's no chance that it's a good idea with an interest rate that is non-zero.

Additionally, with a zero percent interest rate the chances of it being a good idea are extraordinarily slim. Why are you considering that?

Buying one for an investment. I will probably only hold on to it for 12-18 months, so I don't see why I shouldn't keep my payments as low as possible unless I'm missing something. I've made a profit on 15 out of 16 cars.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

If a guy successfully and intentionally arbitraged baseball cards 15/16 times (and didn't lose everything he made in the 16th attempt) I'd at least listen to what he had to say. I doubt it's a good idea still but if the track record he cited is accurate, I don't see what grounds you have for not hearing him out.

I can see why this sounds a bit insane. Let me clarify a few things.

My 401k is maxed out. I own my own home. I have zero debt. I have a bunch of other investments. I have several years of cash in savings.

I'm trying to do something fun as another investment and it's something I've done well in the past. I can afford to pay for this cash but it would be a significant chunk. I'm actually curious if my plan is to only own it for a short time, is a 12 year loan a bad idea? If it is I can get a traditional one or, like I said, pay in cash but I'd prefer not to do that given the amount.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Taco Box posted:

You're going to buy one of those Scat pack dodges thinking they'll increase in value, aren't you? I tried that with a charger daytona. I lost $1/mi.

Haha, no. It's actually a Lamborghini.

If you look at what the prices of the Countaches (+300% in 5 years) and Diablos (+100% in 2 years) have done, I'd guess the last of the Murcielago 6-speeds will eventually do the same. Literally the last V-12 manual Lamborghini ever made and there's only 40 of them. I figure worst case it loses 10% of value over 2 years, best case it goes up 50%.

Comrade Flynn fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Feb 11, 2015

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Blackjack2000 posted:

Where is this?

Gotta be the Bay Area. Moving out of there was the smartest financial decision I ever made.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

HonorableTB posted:

Every time I think about wanting to buy a house, I remember this thread and reaffirm my decision to rent a house instead after my current lease is up.

Or take a look at someone like me who bought 2 years ago and have probably had $150k in appreciation since.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Yeah I'll buy bullets against your gold any day. How else you gonna hedge your index funds?

What about gold bullets?

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Hargrimm posted:

Working in video games is bad with money. The last story is just ridiculous. Having a fourth child when your sole breadwinner works in a famously layoff-prone industry and has been laid off four times in quick succession is also bad with money.

Working in videogames is great if you're smart about it. Just go in knowing it's a cyclical business.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Cicero posted:

Not if you have a family to support. That dude just sounds incredibly selfish to make his family suffer so much so he gets to 'follow his dream's of working in an exploitative, hit-driven business.

Yeah, what do I know. I only support my family while working in video games.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Dwight Eisenhower posted:

I wanted to make video games until I graduated with a CS degree and saw how hard it was to get into, the salary difference, and the instability; and that was before the cutthroat "lay people off after release" cycle started in full swing.

It's the professional software development microcosm of following your dreams to get into a $120k student loan debt hole with a degree in art history to show for it.

I mean Comrade Flynn obviously makes it work but lots of people just get hosed raw over and over again and never stop coming back for more.

It's just a matter of being smart and keeping your eyes open. I've been doing this for 5 years and have been laid off twice. I knew both layoffs were happening months in advance because I kept my eyes open and saw what was going on, so in both case I had jobs lined up that were promotions. I'm always shocked when people tell me "I had no idea this was coming!" I knew your company was doing layoffs and I don't even work there!

It's a niche industry. Don't move to one shop towns. Move to the Bay Area or Seattle or Austin. That way when you get laid off you'll have a dozen other studios who will be hiring.

Follow the trends. Mobile gaming has gone from 0 to being BIGGER THAN THE FILM INDUSTRY in 5 years. That means there's insane competition. Salaries in mobile gaming are way above average - I know entry level programmers making $110-120k, and user acquisition guys with 2 years experience making $200k. Don't be surprised when your Facebook gaming company has layoffs - it's been on the decline for years.

Network. You'd be shocked how much people hear, often before the management in your own company knows.

This is all common sense but jesus so many people in the game industry don't follow it. People flock to it because they just think it will be the coolest thing ever (and it's pretty rad) but not realize it's still a business.

Nail Rat posted:

There are some rare artists who make serious bank too, I think you're like these lucky souls.

Maybe it's selection bias or something but I know a lot of people that are making absolute fortunes in gaming.

Comrade Flynn fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 12, 2015

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

HonorableTB posted:

If you knew layoffs were coming you should've told those people you rear end

I always do. It's amazing how many people wouldn't believe me.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Cicero posted:

Have you been laid off every year or two, forcing several awkward moves and financial instability? No? Then what I said doesn't apply to you.

Yes. Try reading what I posted.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Not a Children posted:

I thought he came off as more clueless than selfish. He kept doing the same thing without shaking off an iota of his naivety over the course of his falling-down-the-up-escalator disaster of a career. It's a workable industry if you accept and plan around its realities, but this guy clearly did not.

Pretty much this.

Cicero: maybe I misunderstood but it looked like you said working in video games is selfish. The guy is in a lovely situation because he was dumb and/or naive. I guess you could argue that's being selfish.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Who the gently caress cares.
No one loving cares.

Goons with spoons is some other loving place. Talk about stupid people spending stupid money on lego equity and investing in radioshack.

No one clicks on this thread thinking I hope they are talking about their personal eating habits again. Man I really want to read page after page of goons explaining in excruciating detail about their perfectly reasonable eating expenses.

In other words stop ruining my flickering moments of joy at other peoples expense to talk about loving beans. Please?

I like you.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

"I spoke with the bank and you're approved for 144 months with a $105k down payment with a 5.99% interest rate. This would put your payment around $970 dollars."

This required no income verification. Party like it's 2007!

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

overdesigned posted:

Sooooo he's hosed, right?

My wife used to pre-sell high end condos and people would lose their deposit all the time.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

A collectible Lamborghini as collateral with $105,000 cash up front and a rate about 3% above the best rate for a 60 month used car loan is a pretty attractive package for a lender. It's a lot easier and faster to recoup on a bad car loan than a bad mortgage.

That's a good point.

I'm thinking of taking the loan and just getting a normal Penfed 60 month loan 6 months later.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Taco Box posted:

Hey, post pics to AI to give Das Volk a run for his money with his Viper that blew its engine at 4700 miles. Seriously. I like car porn.

I was the one that told Das Volk to buy that car and he's encouraging me to get this one...it may be his revenge.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

I make more than him and $8000 on Christmas absolutely boggles my mind. I don't think I've ever spent more than $1000, and that includes my wife and I.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

It's me I am bad with money I bought this.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Golluk posted:

Oddly enough I was talking to my co-worker who likes having a fancy summer car. He had bought one of the 60th anniversary Lotus Elise. Drove it for 5 months, tacking on 10k miles, then sold it for $15K more than he paid.

Now, in his case, his sister works at an exotic car dealership, so he gets good deals on buying. He also got approached by a rich car collector who wanted his (only 8 of that color, only one in NA, only 64 total cars world wide). He then replaced it with a year old Porche a doctor wanted sold, for 24K... Car was around 90K new. I know where I'm going if I ever want an expensive car on the cheap.

I've had 17ish cars and have only lost money on 2 of them.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

zamin posted:

-Recently bought a 2012 Subaru Legacy w/80k miles on it for about 15 to "save on gas" (he lives about a half hour from work). This brings his total car payments to 920/month. He is the only one in the household with a license.

Some perspective: that's the same amount I pay on my 60 month Lamborghini loan.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

So Bellevue is awful, but is Woodinville? Because I'm kinda thinking of moving there.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Shadowgate posted:

Not only does Washington not have an income tax, our property tax isn't bad either http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

Yeah. Washington owns for higher incomes. So glad I started my business here.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

subx posted:

I do not think he understands how maintenance on a super car works.

It's really not that bad. Except for when I got my ECU wet after 4 days of owning it and had to pay $1400 for a new one.

EDIT: reading some of these stories give me an ulcer.

Comrade Flynn fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Mar 30, 2015

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

SpelledBackwards posted:

Two goodies from Quora. First is a kid who's almost done with college and whose parents have paid in $80k toward his degree, but he wants to drop out because he'd rather travel and read books.

Silicon Valleyitis is horrible. Even as an "entrepreneur", the best thing I have is my college degree to fall back on if needed.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

It came from reddit:

quote:

In October of 2014 my emotionally unstable mom bought a frozen yogurt establishment with the prospects of hiring a manager and making money without doing anything. She is in bad debt now because the yogurt shop isn't making any money, and she's working harder than she's ever worked in her entire life. She comes home near crying every night, and it's tearing my family apart, so anybody who can offer a serious solution would be unbelievably appreciated. She can't keep doing what she's been doing, and she doesn't want anything to do with the yogurt shop. I can try to supply any information that would be needed to assess the situation. If there's a better place to ask this question, I would be grateful if someone could direct me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/30rsux/my_mom_bought_a_froyo_restaurant_and_shes_in/

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

moana posted:

Seattle is a bunch of new money tech people, they get paid mad bank and want to impress all their friends and have no idea what to do with money but spend it all.

Yes it's me I am the new money tech person in Seattle.

EDIT: My accountant just informed me I need to start making $30k quarterly tax payments. :suicide:

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

pig slut lisa posted:

I'm flying in for a conference this week. Please pick me up from the airport in one of your fancy cars, tia.

It's supposed to rain this week and I can't drive the Lamborghini in the rain because it was designed by drunk Italians.


Barry posted:

Can't you find another thread to brag in?


Nah this one is pretty neat.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

I really, really want to see a $2500 vacuum now. I like to imagine it's just a portable black hole.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

paperchaseguy posted:

how are you 150k in debt and still 2.5 years from a degree?
"A combination of 15 failed / dropped college classes"

"I spent about 4 years pretty much depressed and aimlessly living life in college. I didn't go to college to learn. I went there because it was a way to socialize a little and make my life a little more worth living."

JFC, how come you haven't bought a horse yet

It's kind of crazy when the best advice is to literally flee the country and never return.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

SiGmA_X posted:

You can't afford it. That's why you leased it. You'd have paid for it otherwise. I could go buy a 2015 M4 today if I wanted to.. But I'm unwilling to part with 70(-90)k and as such, I can't afford it.

That's kind of dumb logic. There's a lot of good with money reasons to lease.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Aliquid posted:

My dad's a real-estate agent and when doing leases, he'll have people drop $450 non-refundable deposits per pet on nine-month terms. Maybe one a month or so, he'll always point them out to me and we'll roll our eyes.

Why is that weird? Are people just supposed to kill their pet if they don't want to pay that fee?

Also pet insurance is great with money. Our pug had to have an MRI and the 7 years we've been paying for it were ROI positive in an instant.

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Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003

Haifisch posted:

The amount seems high to me(for a 12mo lease, let alone 9mo!), but that's one of those things that probably varies by area. Not that it matters since you should be getting it back at the end of the lease, and paying pet deposits/monthly pet fees is just part of having pets in a rental. Rolling your eyes at it is like rolling your eyes at people who pay security deposits.

I'm jaded by the Bay Area. They wanted 500+ per pet, but it was a true deposit and we got it all back when there was no damage.

Speaking of bad with money, I went to buy a house in Seattle to use as a rental property. They told me there was a bidding war and it ended up selling for 20% over list. :stare:

I'm now considering buying a lot to develop a custom house instead. The only lots I can find are perched on the side of hills and will require retaining walls.

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