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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Volvo 240/260s got them in 1976, and then Volvo had them in the 200/300/700/900 series up until the introduction of the M90 gearbox in 1995.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:12
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InitialDave posted:I'm never sure about test driving hot hatches. I mean, do you drive it sensibly and never get a feel for what the car's really like, or do you drive it like you actually would if you owned it, and come off looking like every other knuckle-dragging test pilot that comes in off the street? Just wait until you're out of sight until you drive the poo poo out of it?
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Aug 7, 2013 00:39
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Math You posted:I've never taken a test drive with a sales guy. Same here. At least not at a dealership.
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Aug 7, 2013 01:15
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Twenty-nine, but it wasn't a problem when I was suitless and twenty either.Math You posted:Keep in mind that I am Canadian, so maybe that's why. Meh. Yeah, this is in Europe. I guess that's why.
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Aug 7, 2013 04:11
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jammyozzy posted:I've been window-shopping a few that are in my price range, are there any common faults or issues with them? I can't really comment about size, but it is a Renault, and while much  about them is people who can't accept that things actually get better sometimes, they still have faults of both minor and major kinds depending on your luck. Ignition coils, cabin fan, head gaskets, electrical connectors... the list of things people I know have had problems with is long and varied, and still some people drive them 250k km without any problems at all. I think the easiest way to deal with it is; do you want one? Then buy one. Be prepared for the Renault experience, and if you're lucky you won't have a problem in the world and that's just a bonus then, isn't it?
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Sep 1, 2013 22:33
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Found this old photo of my Peugeot 306 GTi6. That was a fun car, and superior to the contemporary Golf Gti in every way. I miss it.
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Sep 29, 2013 20:23
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My problem was how the trailing arm bearings disintegrated and destroyed the rear axle tube. Happened to both my 405s and happened to the 306.
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Sep 29, 2013 21:36
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This is the right thread for my newest addition to the fleet, right?   1.1 litre, 60 hp. Hear me roar.
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Jan 19, 2014 21:11
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PadreScout posted:Mines turbo is probably only for show, though. First FI car I've ever driven where I have no idea if it's on the boost or not. Maybe it was easier to put a turbo on it than a muffler or something(because Volvo). Well, it is the exact same engine as in the second generation Focus ST and when I drove one I thought it was quite feisty? Fun fact; Ford named the engine the "Ford Duratec-ST" in a lot of literature and passed it off as an offshot of the Duratec family, when it's obvious for anyone who's ever seen a white block before that that is hogwash.
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Jan 31, 2014 16:22
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OneSizeFitsAll posted:Just put down a deposit on an '08 A3 Sportback Quattro?
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Feb 14, 2014 20:40
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Timmy Cruise posted:I'm in Saskatchewan, which will be similar. The WRX sedan starts at $32,495 MSRP and at least in my experience the only break you get is if the manufacturer is offering discounts and only on cash purchases. I've never been 100 clear on this; would MSRP be the final cost of a car, or is that just a bullshit number that you have to add taxes and delivery fees and other poo poo to?
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Feb 22, 2014 15:28
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A WRX STi is $57k (eqv) out the door here...
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Feb 22, 2014 15:51
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Timmy Cruise posted:Nidhg00670000 - you're where, Sweden? Yup.
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Feb 22, 2014 18:24
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Snowdens Secret posted:That's including 25% sales tax (and Lord knows what else) Yes, cars have a 25% VAT. Add 37 USD in registration fees, and then (if we keep to the WRX STi) 410 USD in road tax each year. Then I pay 7.7 USD per gallon at the petrol station, of which about 65% is tax.
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Feb 22, 2014 20:45
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The VW Golf turned 40 yesterday!  Over 30 million Golfs made so far. DoLittle posted:In Finland the VAT is 24%, but on top of that we have a separate registration tax which varies from 5-50% depending on CO2 emissions. This additional tax calculated from the price of the car incl. VAT. Yeah, my gfs dad is (a car nut) from Finland so I get to hear about stuff like this a lot. And my sister is married to (a car nut) from Norway so I get to hear about all the beautiful bullshit they've got there as well. And my (car nut) cousins gf is from Denmark, so I get to hear about Danish poo poo as well. The only reasonable course of action here is that y'all move to Sweden, really. But that'd require you to speak intelligible, soo... 
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Mar 30, 2014 16:26
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Rhyno posted:All I want in the world is a small, AWD turbo 6 speed hatch with a Mazda M on it. 
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Apr 8, 2014 16:15
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Dealerships in the US seem like they're part of some alternative lizard men sci-fi story, where they're all owned by the ZOG-eco terrorist-communazi triumvirate which sole purpose is to keep the populace from buying new cars.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:04
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That's sadly how all cars work now. They're so finely tuned to get good numbers in the test cycle that real life consumption actually suffers for it. And it's not like you can use it as some kind of baseline comparison either, because sometimes a car that gets worse test numbers get better real life consumption. A nice example of this is the VW Polo TDi and TDi Bluemotion. The Bluemotion is the eco version, supposed to get much lower consumption and having a higher price because of it. The BM has an impressively low fuel consumption in the EU test cycle. The problem is that the regular TDi gets better real life consumption, making the Bluemotion the worst of both worlds!
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Aug 15, 2014 17:03
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People (at least think they) want grip, and hotter cars usually don't have less grip, so unless you buy a poverty spec 60hp Pug, I think you're poo poo out of luck. PS. Just get a Superduke and come back to CA.
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Nov 2, 2014 07:45
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A Ruf CTR certainly is HOT, but it's not a hatch. 
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Nov 2, 2014 23:58
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Well, let's see if the US gets the Golf R400 or the Sportwagon R?
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Apr 2, 2015 18:44
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500 hp AWD hybrid hatch, sign me the gently caress up! I am seriously tempted, but still no word from Peugeot about date, price and availability in Sweden. It IS confirmed for production, is the only answer I can get so far.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:35
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But I thought you already had a 348? 
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Dec 30, 2016 18:29
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BlackMK4 posted:Nah, that's Kimbo. Doh.  something something 2pac
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Jan 1, 2017 07:00
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I have an E46 ZHP, an 03 Yamaha R6 track bike, and an 07 Aprilia Tuono 1000.
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KidDynamite posted:RS guys seems there may be a head gasket issue in some cars. Huge_Midget posted:Have you seen the thread on the FocusRS.org forum about the drive modes being disabled when it's below freezing? And people poo poo on french and italian cars.
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Feb 17, 2017 22:44
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I've got the Coldest Hatch of all time: Ford Fiesta Titanium 1.0 Duratec TI-VCT. 80 hp of fury. It sounds kind of cool since it's an NA triple but it's not exactly a NVH superstar. Good below 60km/h, terrible on the motorway. After reading about it, I'm pretty "impressed" that they made an engine that is worse in every way compared to the 1.25 Zetec that I have in my Fiesta. Worse power, worse torque, worse (real life) fuel consumption...
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May 6, 2017 19:39
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Rhyno posted:I want a sunroof Why? Only thing sunroofs are good for is making me hit my head since they take up so much head space.
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Sep 17, 2017 15:18
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Well, no matter how much we go on about "imagine if someone said we'd have [car with x hp or feature] ten years ago", we're never getting back to the bare bones ready to rock cars like the ITR. Safety, emissions, creature comforts that everyone but AI feels is superfluous, the list goes on. Saying "well this car here that's almost thirty years old did x much better" just isn't relevant.
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Oct 25, 2017 14:45
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PaintVagrant posted:There is literally no car that TE37s look bad on imo This man speaks the truth. Edit: I might actually have something to contribute to the thread instead of just shitposting, depending on how financially irresponsible I'll get after Christmas.
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Dec 20, 2017 15:59
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Crescendo posted:Apparently Rota "Grid" wheels are pretty OK for the price (some folks even race on them). They cost $250 AUD here in Australia, so I guess they would be something like $150-200 in the US. Missed this the first time. I don't know of eventual recent developments, but I've seen enough cracked or shattered Rotas to make me think that their QA/QC isn't top notch so to speak.
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Dec 20, 2017 18:17
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Uuurgh, mk4 Golfs are basically on my list of cars that I would never, under any circumstance, own. They're just so irredeemably poo poo. lovely interior, lovely rustproofing, lovely engines, lovely chassi. Shitshitshit.
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May 14, 2018 21:36
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You Am I posted:ENCAP has had small overlap tests for years. Nah, not really. They've done 40 percent overlap since like, 1997, but small overlap like the IIHS does is 25 percent. This is what ENCAP had to say about it back in 2014: quote:A small overlap crash test in Europe? No, Euro NCAP does not plan to carry out this type of test in the immediate future.
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Feb 27, 2019 02:24
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dissss posted:They already aren't. They retested the Fiat Panda as well. 
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Mar 1, 2019 01:44
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I was about to say, clutch replacement isn't hard, it's just a pain in the rear end. Like, there really isn't much that can go wrong doing one.
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Dec 23, 2019 01:25
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I'm unsure if the performance pack is the same in the US, but in Europe it's +10hp and most importantly, an LSD. I'd say it's worth it simply because of the diff.
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Mar 25, 2020 16:59
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The EU PP comes with a mechanical LSD.
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Mar 25, 2020 18:43
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Huh, how incredibly needlessly complicated. Learn something every day.
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Mar 25, 2020 19:21
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No hot hatch in this one, but just as an example here is Car and Driver testing some of this.
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Apr 14, 2020 03:42
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Mk4 Golfs, they rust like crazy, the interior has the feel of a early 90s Kia, the understeering is worse than an 80s Audi, the electronics are on par with a 70s Leyland. God it is such a miserable pile of absolute poo poo. Congrats on dodging that bullet, Imperador.
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Oct 19, 2021 19:30
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A sea of black plastic that scratches incredibly easy but is still brittle and likes to fall apart and creaks everywhere. The Mk3 interior wasn't much to write home about but the Mk4 had a markedly lower budget feel.
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Oct 19, 2021 20:27
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