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Buy the Complete Edition Please join Something Awful Civilizations. We need multiplayer buddies Civilization V: Brave New World Release Thread What’s Civilization V? Civilization V is the newest entry in the over two decade long Civilization series, where you control a real-world civilization from 4000 B.C. discovering how to make pots, to the near-future of 2050 A.D. fighting with nukes and artillery. While playing the game you’re trying to reach one of the game’s preset victory conditions before your opponents, in order to make “A civilization to stand the test of time.” What’s new in Civilization V from Civ 4? Civilization V is host to a lot of new features that make it a rather different game from Civ 4.
Who can I play as? In the base game you have access to the following 18 (technically 19, see dlc section below) civilization and leaders:
I heard this game sucks, what's the deal? It did. It really did on launch. It had bad AI, it was poorly optimized and lacked a lot of features. Time has changed things though. The AI still isn't great but it's gotten better. Once you understand what it does and doesn't like it becomes easier to keep it placated. The expansion packs add a lot of features back people missed, like Religion and Spies, sometimes doing it better than Civ 4 did. As long as you get the Complete Edition it's a game I can highly recommend. I've played the tutorial and while I understand how to play, I don't understand how to win. Are there any guides or tutorials? I want to collect a couple of good Tutorials here for people. In general the recommended advice is to look up youtube videos of people playing on Deity. Whatever works on Deity will work even better on lower difficulties. Other good tips:
The AI hates me and I don't understand why. What did I do wrong? Users Eric the Mauve and Chronojam made some very lovely effort posts in the old thread detailing all the modifiers that affects AI diplomacy. You can find them here and here. However as of Brave New World these values have changed so it may be some time before we have a more updated version. The most common mistake people make is wiping out a civ. If you commit genocide the world community (generally) frowns on that, so don't do it. Leave them one shithole city in the rear end end of nowhere if you have to, they're generally not a threat anymore if you take their capital, but don't wipe them out. Other stuff, like border disputes, are often inevitable and that's why you must always prepare for war. My ranged unit can't hit a target 2 hexes away, the heck? Thanks Captain Fargle I heard this game has a ton of DLC. Is it worth it? At this point, buy the Complete Edition. The Complete Edition includes all DLC and expansion packs. For the sake of completeness I'm going to list all the side DLC, and Gods and Kings and Brave New World are near the bottom of the post. It's worth noting almost all of this DLC came out before Gods and Kings so the included scenarios use Vanilla rules, the exception is Quest for the New World. This can be kind of off putting to some. Babylon – Nebuchadnezzar II Originally free with the Digital Deluxe edition of the game Nebuchadnezzar II is a technology driven Leader who can outpace nearly every other civ. He used to be a lot more powerful to a hilariously broken degree but has been toned down. Still quite powerful. Mongolia Free Mongolia – Genghis Khan This civilization was given out for free to everyone who purchased the game. It will already be added to your account when you buy the game, no need to actually buy it. Mongolia focuses on horse based armies and the included scenario lets you play the Mongolian conquest of China, though on higher difficulties the scenario ranges from extremely difficult to impossible due to changes in horse units being able to attack cities. Spain – Isabella And Inca – Pachacuti Two civilizations for the price of…well, one and a half. Despite the increased price tag this is a good pack. The Inca civilization is really great for hilly regions, with their hill farm. Spain’s ability is either really great or really crappy. It depends on whether you manage to find natural wonders first or not. The conquistador is a knight that can found cities when on another continent. Spiffy! The included Scenario is my personal favorite. It lets you play the European conquest of America from 1492 to 1592. What makes the scenario so interesting is you can play as the Europeans (Spain, England or France) or the Native Americans (Iroquois, Aztecs or Inca). The European map is static and always resembles its historical appearance, but the New World is randomized every time. Europeans have a tech advantage but Native Americans have more cities to begin with. It’s well thought out and different every time. Polynesia – Kamehameha Kamehameha is an absolute beast on water based maps. His units can embark before researching the necessary tech, his Moai unique building improves the defense of your units on the shore, and he generates a ton of culture. Playing as Polynesia on an archipelago map is almost cheating. The included scenario has you playing one of 4 Polynesian civilizations, trying to become the dominant cultural powerhouse by unlocking all the social policies first, with no penalty for having many cities like the base game. It also included a modified tech tree. One of my personal favorites. Denmark – Harald Bluetooth Vikings! Harald has the ability to move onto land from water without using a movement space, making him an excellent domination civ on water based maps. The included scenario is kinda lackluster. About the 1066 English war with Norway you basically are just fighting to conquer England before the AI and secure the throne. This is surprisingly really good. It includes 5 new preset maps, but we don’t care about those. The real meat of this DLC is the new generators. Specifically Continents Plus and Pangaea Plus. These are improved algorithms to Vanilla’s continents and Pangaea maps that will add little islands off the coast. Generally recommended. Korea – Sejong King Sejong the Great is a technology power house, though his method is different from Nebuchadnezzar II. He gets more research from science buildings and great person improvements. Overall not quite as powerful as Babylon but I still really like the civ. Their military units are really fun too. The scenario is the Japanese invasion of Korea. You can play as either China, Korea, Japan or Manchu. China and Korea are locked in a permanent alliance, but Japan has the military advantage to start. The game ends either when China/Korea push Japan off the mainland, or whoever has the highest score when time runs out. This pack contains 3 new wonders you can build, as the name implies, in the ancient world: The Temple of Artemis, The Statue of Zeus, and The Mausoleum of Halicarnassus. Pretty well balanced and not a bad purchase. The included scenario lets you try and be one of 4 ancient civilizations to own the most of the 9 in-game wonders of the ancient world, either by building them first or conquering other cities who built them. The research speed is very heavily slowed down to keep things firmly locked in the ancient era, medieval at best. I really enjoy this scenario because there’s many ways to approach it so it doesn’t get stale. MODS Diplomacy Values: shows the number of jerkpoints for each modifier Never Become a Warmongerer: disables the warmonger diplohit for all players Civ IV Diplomatic Features: This adds diplomacy options from Civ 4 into the game, such as tech trading and vassalage (Warning, may crash the game) Thanks KKKlean Energy! My mods are gone! Yeah that happens. Solution thanks to Guigui: Guigui posted:First: all your mods are stored in c:/users/(username)/documents/my games/sid meier's civilization 5/MODS directory. (Directory may vary). When you get all the mods you like, MAKE A BACKUP OF THAT DIRECTORY. Steam has a bad habit of randomly erasing everything in that directory when you go play offline. Expansion Content Gods and Kings is Civilization V’s first expansion and mostly adds in features that people missed from Civilization 4, and some other stuff. Some choice new things:
Brave New World is the second expansion to Civilization V. This one focuses more on world diplomacy. Features include:
RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 22:39 |
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It's America's new UA.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 05:07 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:I like the new thread tag. It seemed the right choice given the world congress.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 05:10 |
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Accordion Man posted:I don't have it either, hopefully its more of a case of a slight delay instead of them not having enough keys. GMG isn't really obliged to get it at exactly midnight, assuming they might run out (or are even "Delayed") is a tad presumptuous.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 05:19 |
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Chard posted:Had the same issue, this fixed it, put this in the OP(?) That's a general issue with steam games. It's not really particular to Civ 5.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 05:28 |
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It does, because Statue of Zeus is the Wonder for the Honor tree.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:06 |
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I'm waiting on my key so I haven't played but do you need open borders? I imagine the unit can't go there unless you do.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:11 |
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Steam has to attempt to install all relevant DX versions. It's why you can install a game from 10 years ago and still have to wait for it.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:14 |
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schizopol posted:Add to the OP: If you're starting BNW for the first time and the DLC assets won't load with Civ V or activate from the mod list, simply restart steam. This is an issue universal to all steam games I don't think it's really relevant here. Necroneocon posted:I agree. It's also weird to see people here (and the other forums) sticking up for businesses/corporations instead of other people and customers like themselves. People on those forums are upset and annoyed and are just letting out their frustration. Green Man Gaming is a UK corporation for one thing, second they promised nothing more than to get it to you on the release day. In that respect they've so far not failed to fulfill that.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:21 |
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isndl posted:While I'm not happy that I don't have my key immediately, I know better than to blame GMG when it's clearly not their fault. None of the other third-party distributors have keys either, so it's definitely 2K dropping the ball. jtm33 posted:What's the bet that they don't get keys until the 12th. The page on GMG says the release date is the 12th for some reason. Not for the NA page. They even have this banner. I have no idea why this game in particular is making people go chicken little. It's been an hour and a half since it turned midnight Eastern time.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:29 |
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ghetto wormhole posted:I should know better than to open up this but from what standpoint could that really be considered bad? The mods are not fan of piracy chat in any form specifically because it's so controversial so let's cut this line of discussion here.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:34 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:
Saving $7 more bucks mostly. I coulda preordered from Steam.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 06:54 |
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Again, stop assuming the release date will be the 12th. There were big banners advertising the 9th release date. It is in fact, still the 9th. It is barely 2 hours into the 9th. If you live on the west coast it isn't even the 9th. The fact that their website is bugged and has a blank release date doesn't confirm or deny anything. This chicken little stuff is maddening.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:01 |
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I think that's what Tithe always was? Edit: Oh wait it was 2 wasn't it? I'm dumb.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:16 |
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Delete ClientRegistry.blob
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:29 |
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I feel to clear up some confusion GMG had 2 pages for Brave New World, a EU one and an NA one. http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/strategy/sid-meiers-civilization-v-brave-new-world-na/ The NA one does not say July 12th. It in fact says the 9th. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jul 9, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:33 |
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thehumandignity posted:Okay, I faked that screenshot. Look at my post. You're on the wrong page.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:40 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Well this doesn't look good: Their automated system probably failed somehow...welp I guess if an employee tells you to do so can't hurt to.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 07:53 |
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I don't have mine yet. I assume the automated bot who's supposed to give them out didn't do it so they have to manually send em out.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 09:59 |
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Chalks posted:I assume as someone in the UK I've got no choice but to wait until the 12th because even if I get keys earlier it'll be locked on steam anyway? Brick and mortar retailers would get mad if they were beaten by digital, basically.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 10:37 |
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thehumandignity posted:I sent in a customer support thing per the supposed forum rep's suggestion and first got an email saying "You should have it, are you sure you know how to find it? " and then "We're sending them out now, just keep checking." If they later try to tell me I have to wait until the twelfth I will pull the old "I'm a dual citizen! I paid in American dollars! I didn't fight for your freedom just for you to treat me like no ferner! " which in similar situations has always worked. You already admitted you're not in the US you shouldn't act like the tech support person is the idiot for your key not being there.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 10:45 |
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Well all of digital media works that way, so music and movies get affected. It has something to do with when each country starts it's sales records. The big organization in the US starts count on tuesday so everyone (but Nintendo) releases on tuesday to get the maximum sales records. I think the EU does something similar starting Friday but I don't know for sure.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 11:18 |
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fspades posted:So here's something weird: When I fire up the game, it loads as G&K. However BNW shows up in the in-game DLC menu but it is disabled. When I enable it, it reverts back to disabled after I quit the DLC menu. Restart steam. If that doesn't work, delete clientregistry.blob
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 11:30 |
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Gah. I had bought the game when I was still in the Peace Corps so it is the Indonesia release date (aka the 12th). Oh well.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 11:33 |
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^^ Look it's 3 days and im suffering alongside you non-Americans because I made poor decisions to preorder while overseas so I dont wanna hear it jtm33 posted:Do keys for Civ 5 BNW bought in North America require a American IP address to activate? I know they require a North America IP to play right now, just wanting to know if they are also restricting activations.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 12:59 |
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To be fair they seem like they wanted to emulate the idea that in real life travel routes were dangerous early on but as time went on and more of the world was explored they became safer. So similarly in Civ 5 once you have more of the map explored, less barbarian spawn, trade is more reliable.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 13:09 |
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ufarn posted:So I guess I might have to buy the Gold Upgrade on top of my newly-acquired Gods and Kings. Probably not. Steam sale is coming soon and you can probably buy the DLC you want a la carte then. The Gold Edition upgrade is only reccomended if you don't have G&K because it is in fact cheaper than G&K most of the time. But if you have the expansion it's probably not worth it.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 14:05 |
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The scenarios all come bundled with civs, they're not seperate purchases. What I was gettiing at is if you wait for the steam sale you can probably get all the civs for cheaper than what buying the gold edition upgrade would cost you, like Beamed said.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 14:21 |
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Speedball posted:We did the opposite in my game. Genghis Khan was being a dick, so we enacted an embargo against him and raised the maintenance costs on military units. He didn't have a penny to spend for the rest of the game, haha. Negative gold is a science hit and your units start disbanding every few turns.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2013 03:29 |
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Triskelli posted:Via war? Heck yeah. You're allowed to pull some serious cultural appropriation after sacking a city. Seriously having your spies set up a heist to steal a piece of art is so obvious it's weird they didnt do it by default.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2013 04:41 |
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Sojenus posted:I thought iron was supposed to be revealed at bronze working and be cheaper, but I just noticed it's the same in my game as it was in prior versions. What's up with that? I tried reinstalling it but nothing changed; I'm on the mac version on Steam if that matters.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 07:07 |
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Dragongem posted:New culture stuff is fun but it takes ages before I get enough tourism to flip cities. When does the flipping start? They need -20 happiness before that starts happening which often wont kick in until the ideologies are in full swing.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 07:46 |
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Platystemon posted:Is bronze working revealing iron a feature of last weeks patch rather than Brave New World? Because my OS X version of the game still has iron revealed at ironworking. It was a feature of that patch yes. I would not be surprised if they didn't include it in BNW because they assumed the patch would be out by release, but in doing so forgot to add it to the OSX version.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 15:28 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Has anyone played much Indonesia? How do they do? Their UA seems interesting but kinda feels like it hinges on playing an islands map to make the most of. Well happiness bonuses are almost always good but yeah it's a map situational power.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2013 15:37 |
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Handsome Ralph posted:Not bitter because I used Amazon credit to get the expansion for like 13 bucks. Yeah I feel like it makes Gods and Kings look like crap by comparison (A golden review I assure you).
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2013 13:11 |
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New thing I noticed that I haven't seen anyone mention. I hovered over the diplomacy modifier and it said "They think you're a warmongering menace to the world! (This Civ is tolerant of warmongers)" so it distinguishes Civs a bit who think killing other civs is way cool and awesome.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2013 20:18 |
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Kongming posted:I did for a while, now I'm back to random civs. Random still seems to prefer the new civs anyway, except Genghis Khan still shows up in every loving game I play, as it has been and always shall be since I started playing Civ V. Well theres 9 new civs which composes 20% off the total so it's not surprising you'd get a few of them.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2013 17:25 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:So is there such a thing as non-ancient era artifacts? How am I supposed to fill out the Louvre? There are, I think ancient is just more common. But you should probably be filling the Louvre with art, not artifacts. Using the same icon was an incredibly stupid idea because they aren't the same thing. There more sort of...back up in absence of real artwork.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2013 04:43 |
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Oh does it? Nevermind I'm dumb.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2013 04:45 |
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Very few if any things are causes to DoW on their own. I broke a drat DoF once and Kamehameha got over it and even friended me again later. It's more about how strong you are militarily. If you're in a good position the AI is less likely to DoW even if theyre seething mad.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2013 17:34 |