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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

I still have a Core2Duo build from Feb 2008 sitting on my kitchen counter, working at recovering data from a 2 TB drive that went into failure mode. Became redundant when I did my new build last April (i7), but other than turning down some graphics settings in games, was working fine as my primary system at home.

Spent extra time and money on the build so it would be beefy enough to last a while... might have been pushing it a bit. :v:

Don't think I have records of when I did the P3 build, though, which was one emergency-replacement (gently caress you power company) out from being the direct predecessor to the C2D.

Stop badmouthing Core2s. My biggest box right now is a Core2Quad (with a LOT of upgrades). Best I can afford.

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Wilford Cutlery posted:

Is there a thread for running newer OSes on older hardware, even if just for fun? I have a fairly old desktop that never made it past Vista, and I'm tempted to try out Windows 7/8.1/10 on it.

Well, I am currently posting from a circa-2008 Dell Vostro 420 running 10. (Core2Quad Q8200, upgraded to 8Mb of RAM, GTX 760, and some hard drives thrown in, and a better power supply). Not too bad all things being equal. Yeah, I'm a poor and this is the best I could get (some of the upgrade like the 760 are hand me downs).

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Collateral Damage posted:

Maybe you're like a karmic counterweight. Every time someone wins the lottery jackpot, narrowly escapes bodily harm, or lucks into meeting that special one life takes a poo poo on you to make up for it.

Funny you say that. Before work I was thinking that Larches was the thread's bad luck ground strap. Striped RAID array on Buffalo kit is at 98% utilization? It keeps working for now.

Larches' car explodes, his boss demands a total change over to a wireless infrastructure with no budget, and he discovers his new girlfriend is an uplifted primate escaped from a secret government lab...

Also hoping the poo poo luck doesn't jump the air gap to your kiddo. FWIW, I am DCCing you some good wishes.

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 03:46 on May 21, 2016

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Potato Alley posted:

Holy poo poo how did you get modern Windows running on 8 megs of RAM?

<smacks self in forehead> That's what I get for buying my typing fingers from Buffalo!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

BOOTY-ADE posted:

There’s no earthly way of knowing
Where those patch cables are going
There’s no knowing where they're flowing
And the tangles keep on growing
Is it blinking? Is it glowing?
Is a network error showing?
The lag is still ongoing
So the danger must be growing....


:golfclap:

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I do some minor consulting work and teamviewer is one of the tools I like to use. Do I need to find something else? Is there any good info on the risks and how to mitigate them?

So far the only real one I have seen is not to reuse passwords.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Oh, so if I've got a unique keepass password like "HtnnZO3hLNDRCMZ5tut8" I'm probably okay?

I would imagine so. Although for maximum security, might I suggest changing it to "hunter12"?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

flosofl posted:

And thanks for that. It's what I had been aiming for if I had been smart enough to do it myself.

And the Hunter2 schtick will never not be funny.

Hunter12 is SO much more secure!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

GreenNight posted:

Just create a vb script that runs at boot that has a box pop up with the mission statement and each user has to click I Agree before being allowed to use their PC.

And change the location of the button each boot.

Did I mention the mandatory overnight reboots?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

larchesdanrew posted:

Yeah... but is it enough?

Like, when people see that, will they think, "Boy, that's larchesdanrew, Coordinator for Technology" or will they just think "Oh, there's a computer guy"

No, they will assume you are hacking the Gibson.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Arsten posted:

Remember that they are in IT. They need their heads and their hands, so focus all morale-improvement beatings on the kidney and liver areas.

Or the genitals. That will help keep them from being distracted by attractive coworkers. PRODUCTIVITY!

Fil5000 posted:

All I ever bother doing is flipping their screen upside down with ctrl alt down arrow and then locking it.

Only works on Intel kit with Intel drivers.

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 18, 2016

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Arsten posted:

Sexual harassment suit means you never touch anyone's sexy bits.

You don't touch them yourself. Hit them with sticks.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Arsten posted:

Doesn't matter. It'll just be kinky sexual harassment.

Then you haven't beaten them enough. Seriously, I need an MBA to teach you all this?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Arsten posted:

An MBA would know better. Genitals are off limits.

It's all about sacks of valencia oranges and kidneys.

But then you have to pay the janitorial staff overtime to get the bloodstains out of the urinals.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

BOOTY-ADE posted:

Jesus, that place has to be held together by the 3 B's - band-aids, bubblegum, and bailing wire. And maybe prayers.

Naaaah. You'd have to have a soul to pray.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Gin is also acceptable, particularly in the summer months.

(I actually don't drink that much anymore either)

Absolut Citron and Tonic makes a truly lovely summer tipple.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Hungry Computer posted:

Down a few dozen mg of phenazepam, come too a week later to find that you've ordered a few hundred thousand dollars worth of baby grand pianos Buffalo equipment Russian wives.

FTFY.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Craptacular posted:

Pff I remember downloading an Apogee side-scroller on a 2400 baud modem.

I'm sure there's people ITT who are old enough to have typed in the source code for a game from a magazine.

Wait, why is everyone looking at me?

And it was an 80 column word processor for the C64.

(BTW, it was SpeedScript.)

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jun 24, 2016

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

Hi5 Speedscript buddy! :hf: Did your version have a major feature that was broken right out of the assembler? (Global search and replace, I think. Oddly enough, I later got a copy of the original/not-fumblefingered-at-home release, and... it was broken the exact same way! :iiam:)

As for alcochat, I can't do rum (just tastes burnt to me) or tequila (petrochemical). What I really need to do is find a way to get salmiakki from Finland at a somewhat reasonable price, or just start ordering the liquorice itself and infuse vodka. (Tried it at Worldcon last year, and drat, I *like* it.)

Yup. Even Commies had bad code.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Lobus posted:

Doesn't GeekSquad just replace the drive for every issue and charge $500?

As well as providing a free offsite storage facility for the porn they find on the old drive!

EDIT: Although restoring sucks,

Samizdata
May 14, 2007
Does someone want to offer a Goonbro a quick hand? Trying to do a batch to launch three apps. I am doing what all the documentation says to do, but it doesn't work.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

anthonypants posted:

I opened three apps just now and didn't have any problem, you must be doing something wrong.

Do I need to open a ticket? :downs:

Here's the batch -

CD "C:\Users\migra\AppData\Local\Franz\"
START "Update.exe --processStart Franz.exe"
CD "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\"
START firefox.exe
CD "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mailbird\"
START "Mailbird.exe"


The OS is Win 10 Pro x64. All I get are three console windows and no programs. The filenames and paths are taken directly from the shortcuts. These are the three programs I open most commonly for my online day. I just thought one shortcut to make them all load at once would be lovely, and I see zero reason why it should not work. You big dogs all seem so hot at scripting, I thought maybe someone might be able to help.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

nielsm posted:

I have a batch with similar purpose. What I do is run the START command on the shortcuts, rather than the actual programs. Like this:

code:
start "..." "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools\Active Directory Users and Computers.lnk"
start "..." "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office 2013\Outlook 2013.lnk"
The initial "..." is required since the first argument the START command gets in quotes always gets used as title for the console window. So if I need to quote the path to the program, I have to add a dummy title parameter first.

Interesting. I will give it a shot tomorrow then. Cheers!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

nielsm posted:

I have a batch with similar purpose. What I do is run the START command on the shortcuts, rather than the actual programs. Like this:

code:
start "..." "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools\Active Directory Users and Computers.lnk"
start "..." "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office 2013\Outlook 2013.lnk"
The initial "..." is required since the first argument the START command gets in quotes always gets used as title for the console window. So if I need to quote the path to the program, I have to add a dummy title parameter first.

Worked fine. Thanks again!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

MrMojok posted:

Q: My mailbox in Exchange is 20 GB in size, I also have two other peoples' 10-15 GB mailboxes open in my profile, I've figured out how to put outlook in my windows startup folder so the program runs at logon, and every time I come back to my desk after getting my coffee, a box has popped up saying it cannot locate my 15 GB .pst file which is saved to a network drive, or else Outlook is completely hung. What is the problem with Are System?

A: Go gently caress yourself.

That post/avatar combo is PERFECT. :golfclap:

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Kurieg posted:

No, some vegans have pets and try to feed them vegan food. Which is an insanely bad thing for dogs. It's like the tofu lion from Futurama except with them dying from sepsis.

The word is obligate carnivore. Certain animals are unable to synthesize certain nutrients, meaning they can only get them from their diet. In pretty much all cases, that means animal flesh.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

notwithoutmyanus posted:

I have a coworker in the same role as myself who isn't even t1 helpdesk skillset. The "I use IE and not chrome/I don't know window + L for locking / is a clicker/zero retention / computers are magic" guy who also has major body odor and makes homer simpson in a mumu look thin.

I wouldn't even pay this guy 30 grand, let alone the presumably 70+ he's getting paid to be this retarded.

Hell, I would be that retarded for 55 tops. However, afraid my regular showering would prolly keep me from getting the job.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Arsten posted:

Just spray yourself with Axe. Your interviewer won't know the difference. :v:

I... I... can't. My housekeeping sucks to high heaven, but my personal hygiene is pretty awesome.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

klosterdev posted:

Exactly what it sounds like. Computers remain useful for a lot longer than they used to be, and most people just use them for basic web browsing and word processing, which depending on the type of usage can be practical as far back as late-model Core 2 Duos. (aka old people on a fixed income who just want to check their email)

Side note: Windows 8 + XP depreciation was fantastic for business because it resulted in a parade of old people demanding an OS with an interface that was similar to XP that didn't confuse them.

I am currently running pretty happily on an upgraded (PSU, RAM, HDDs, and GPU) Core 2 Quad as we speak. I am not old, but I am a poor.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

PBS posted:

What GPU? Core2Quad was a bottleneck years ago.

2Gb EVGA GTX 760. Ended up getting it for free.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

GreenNight posted:

A lot of our customers only send in orders via faxes and refuse to change over to email or EDI.

Saying that, we have software that dumps incoming faxes to email boxes so who gives a poo poo.

Seeing if I managed to get on 1000 while celebrating the technological gift to mankind that is the fax machine!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

glowstick party tonight posted:

whoa what happens when my computer can get DPed?

High speed interfacing, baby!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

18 Character Limit posted:

And then the tinnitus takes over.

What?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

WILL ALL YOU FUCKERS STOP MUMBLING AND JUST TALK CLEARLY FOR A SECOND?! THIS IS NOT GODDAMN FUNNY!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Boogalo posted:

This is my boss and it doesn't help that i also mumble. He was a rocker in his youth and is always complaining about his tinnitus.

I only wish I had been a rocker. I suspect it is Meniere's.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Mostly, but then I got sad at the laptop part. You haven't seen what pants my laptop is.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Judge Schnoopy posted:

but now i really, really want to

Pants is an expression with a seriously negative connotation.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pants

Rubbish; something worthless.

You're talking pants!
The film was a load (or pile) of pants.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

anthonypants posted:

gently caress you, pal.

I didn't pick your username, pal, you did.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

pr0digal posted:

You probably bought yourself 3 months of extra work that must be completed within one month

Judge Schnoopy posted:

nah I made sure to include a project team requirement that will include other high-ranking people, and they have enough push-back power to keep me out of hot water caused by shortened time frames.

The schedule is also defined in the proposal per phase so if I'm rushed through it I've got my CYA in order.

ONE month? ONE WHOLE MONTH? You act like IT isn't a profit center! Hope your synergization with offsite assets turns out a win-win!

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

The Server of Amontillado?

For the love of asset tagging, Montresor, for the LOVE OF ASSET TAGGING!

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