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Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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God drat.

I loved the old ISS starter and Wu Jings, but drat if having so many evil agent bastards isn't appealing.

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Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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What's wrong with Zerats? I'm new and poo poo, but they don't seem that bad.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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I've been absolutely stomped by a tiger soldier for about 5 games in a row now. We're playing 150 pts, I'm maf, and he'll manage to pick off 80% of my monkeys in the first turn.

How do I counter him? With the initiative he can wiggle just right so it's always his B4 on 9 or 12 against my one on 6 or 9. Anything I should try, or is the counter to mimetic airborne troops just luck?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Pyrolocutus posted:

Do we have a street date yet for May releases? Asking mostly about the Maghariba Guard here.

It's out in some shops in Aus, guessing it should be most places.

Just saw it this past weekend, though, so it shouldn't be far off wherever you are. It's.. heavy.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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I've seen a xeodron box up for May preorder, anyone know if this is legit? Here's praying for an onyx army box that's not just three boxes together.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Flipswitch posted:

Sounds about right but I haven't seen a retailer pre-order sheet just yet to confirm. Who has it up?

The Aus distributor (combat company/modifx) on their June pre-orders page.

No pics, and it's pegged at $50 au - same as the cheaper starter boxes (like shavastii)

They also have:
Kosuill Assault Pioneer BS
Bashi Bozouk BS
Bagh-mari unit

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 01:11 on May 20, 2016

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Genghis Cohen posted:


----> Here I will describe a debate/disagreement we had about LoF. The way this guy's group are accustomed to play is you say who you want to see (and not see), move your model around a corner, you all agree, then you shoot. IE only moving far enough around a corner that A can see you, not far enough to see B at a more acute angle. Now in theory, I'm fine with this - when models are really in different locations. I have no problem with someone moving up, and saying 'can you see me, how about now, now?' - I will happily tell you where I can and can't see. Where I stopped him, which IMO was going too far, was coming round a corner, which was directly watched by like 4 models, and saying 'I do it so A can see me, but not B, C, D'. I accept that, mathematically, there is a point where that's the case. But if the distinction is too drat fine for the human eye, then no, you can't always call shooting my models one at a time. There ensued a tense debate on this point. I carried the day, to which I give my opponent due credit for sportsmanship. But I maintain that if you always play that way, in competitive play, it makes any defense completely untenable. The attacking model (eg with Burst 5, as here) can, barring freakish luck, roll over any succession of models he likes, if he's guaranteed to face them one by one. I think it's taking the principles of friendly intent one step too far. Would be interested to hear peoples' thoughts.

Yeah, the 'slicing the pie' thing really irked me as well the first time I played it - you think you've got a corner covered well enough, but 5 minutes of careful 0.1mm umm and ahing by your opponent means they just get picked off one by one. It's pretty well established in the meta around here, though, so no probs. I still don't like doing it - but I'm fine with others doing it now I know to prepare for it. One day I'll succumb :black101:

It does mean you free up regular troops from defence and focus more on flame throwers and total reaction purely for holding flanks, though. That makes list building a bit easier for aggressive lists. Planned defence is a joke, though, as it's only ever 1v1 with easy risk analysis.

e: You can nerd-fluff justify it by saying the troop is cautiously approaching the corner and only exposes himself the minimal amount to take a shot at the first target. Kinda makes more sense that way.

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 02:41 on May 22, 2016

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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I was cool with gradma getting an assault pistol, but neurocinetics was just a step to far.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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The infinity wiki is maintained by corvus belli and has the basic rules laid out.

The actual pdfs are a bit easier to read, and HSN3 hasn't been added to the wiki yet, but the wiki is still where I go 90% of the time.

http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Swagger Dagger posted:

Dear CA players, would the 300 point Onyx box they're putting out be a good buy? I was thinking of getting that and the Batroid TAG.

Edit: The 300 pt box is a bundle of the starter, Rodoks and Drones. The pricing works out so that you're basically getting the Rodoks for free.

Yeah, what Bear Throne said and Rodoks in a link are heaps of fun.

A mimetic super-jumping B5 HMG? Yes please. Dumping mines all over the battlefield whenever you move? Yes please. Charging in with B4 light shotguns? Yes please.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Would 20 auxilia FOs work?

I really want to know.

Maybe enough to buy another 9 boxes.

Maybe throw in a peacemaker armbot to mix it up (with auxbot).

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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The raicho looks gorgeous, nice work. Very jealous!

I've got a tournament coming up this weekend that I've decided to try NCA in, so the last few weeks I've been working on these guys:



Still haven't actually played with them, so it's gonna be a mess!

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Flipswitch posted:

These Xeodrons go together like a dream, first Infinity model I've built in months, forgot how great they are put together to some companies.

How do you already have yours :gonk:

What's your thoughts on the harris xeodron link? Hot garbage (that I'll run anyway)?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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That starter set is looking pretty sweet. Love the al fassid leak:



Can't wait to add more stuff the the painting back log!

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Well gently caress, that's a must buy now. That zuyong. Plus a third yuan yuan finally!

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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dexefiend posted:

Not having access to the 4 or 5 man bonuses can hurt a little. My biggest gripe is the 4-2 movement of their only MSV2 or higher profile.

Makeuls throwing eclipse/zero-v smoke go a long way to managing this. Sure, there's no smoke/sniper shenanigans, but instead you just put up a wall and do whatever you want.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Yeah, HI. Quite expensive (for haqq) but versatile hi.

53 pts 2 swc for hmg, lgl (smoke and normal grens), ap mines w minelayer, sixth sense lvl 1, veteran. 4-2 mover, otherwise decent hi stats.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Slow grows are great for that, they lead you into 300 at a good pace. Even better if you and a mate are practising the missions between rooms to get the basics solid. A lot of the older players are quite sure that certain rules work in ways they just don't..

I think I'm just getting to the point where can wrap my head around a 300 pt game, after 6 mounts and probably 20-25 games. There's still a situation every game or two which makes me grab the wiki. Also the game seems to be about being super conservative when not sure. Unless you're confident you're not gonna get in a close situation in a fire lane, don't deploy there.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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So what about missions with repeaters built in? I'm thinking Transmission Matrix - are the mission based repeaters linked to everyone's hackers as well, or is it just ZoC as they're not 'enemy' repeaters?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Overdron? :woop:

The xeodrons are such gorgeous models I can't wait. I'd put off assembling all the wings and little bits on them as I thought it'd be a headache, but it was way easier than I thought metal could ever be.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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However I strongly, very strongly, disagree with anyone think thinks the Crusades were a bad idea, or not justified.

lol

(e: also, nice report! Cheers)

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Aug 10, 2016

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Pyrolocutus posted:

From the computer code, I predict we're getting a new Matrix-themed army. Get ready for trench coats and a faction that starts going downhill starting with the second set of releases.

But god drat I'll eat up the starter box and remember it fondly for years.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Suryats yessssss. So underappreciated.

Also that bust is awesome, yes please.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Yeah, I play NCA pretty often and most games have an Aquila guard playing statue while my wip 12/13 hackers get wrecked by an interventor (or, you know, ghulam).

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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The resculpt? (Lol)

That overdron can totally cradle me in his massive, rippling arms tho. Tinbot can come as well.

:blush: CA sama

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Pierzak posted:

eww pedo

:pwn:

Suddenly greekleph makes more sense.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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BlackIronHeart posted:

MAF for noobs

Yeah, I've got to second this. I played them in a slow grow recently and had a pretty hard time. There were a lot of good players in the group, and I was completely new, but I found they either did amazing, or fell apart. There were no close (imo fun) games.

Spot on about lietenants and retreat too, I never thought of who the enemy's leut was, or if they were close to retreat. Also while they are hard, they don't shine in any area except 'not running away'. If you know how to exploit that, cool, but as a new player it's tricky to do. For the cost of one of your medium guys most other players can bring some fairly nasty killers or very tricky specialists.

YMMV of course, if you've been playing other skirmish games recently it might help.

If you do go with them don't mess around trying to be clever, just take sogarats :black101:

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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You can use holo 2 to disguise as well now? If so, hot drat. Kotail just got way beefier.

Also the anaconda joining caledonia (even temporarily) is awesome, I've always wanted to run one but didn't want the Frenches. Tartan armour here we come.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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That does look pretty good, might have to find some.

Anyone put in much time with Xeodrons? Is the red fury with it, or does the multirifle give better mileage as an aro piece?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Born from an egg on a mountain top

https://guerrillaminiaturegames.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/gmg-exclusive-infinity-n3-preview-new-morat-suryat-assault-infantry/



Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Rasyats are disgusting. People's refusal to use them is probs why maiperformance is so contentious!

E: I mean look at this.

Pidgin Englishman fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Oct 13, 2016

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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No way.

This is awesome:

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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It's a pretty flexible model though. It could proxy as a malignos reasonably well, or as a nexus operative (as they don't have models yet).


I played the first tagline game on the weekend, it was good fun. I ran onyx, and having nearly 400 pts is brutal - I went for all the toys, so had a xedron/Samaritan link, overdron hrmc, Unicron/nexus/legate link and a malignos FO.

What should have been a PanO victory, or at least a draw, turned into a 9-2 onyx win thanks to the overdron being obscenely lucky. It managed to save three hrl hits in one order, take out a knight and wound another with one order, and take out a seraph (standing in for macanaya) in one order. What a (lucky) beast.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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No biggy, you'll have to go back for the xeodrons and big bro overdron soon too :getin:

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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BlackIronHeart posted:

I don't know if it's viable but it looks fun.

I'm really hoping to try something like this because the Nexus can put Supportware on the Unidron Sniper. If the sniper's target is in his +3 range band, you've got him shooting at BS17 B3 with Plasma/Shock. pretty rad, right?

I've tried something similair, with an m-drone and e drone alongside the links. It works decently, marksman and template plasma on a 3 burst sniper is so nice. Plus the option of dogged or 2-stage unconcious. You really want a hacker out of the link, though, so putting up supportware doesnt get your sniper pinged.

The xeodron Harris is a bit trickier to use - it's all the army's assault potential, but the Samaritan is pretty fragile and there's no long range weapons. It gets locked down by snipers or tr bots fairly easily, but on the other hand you've got 2 tags and an nwi model, so it can soak up a bit of damage.

Overdrons are hot, though. A 3 wound hrmc/burst 3 plasma sniper is tasty. I'm thinking one of them and a xeodron red fury are a nice base. Sprinkle some Unidron links, ikadrons, and an umbra or two. Maybe a malignos infiltrating fo? So much good stuff.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Fuckin' asura+achilles+proxies. Should be BANNED.

I say this as someone who owns PanO, too, so they must be filth.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Dual tikbalang lists: good idea, or great idea?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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Khisanth Magus posted:

For sheer amusements sake because I love the models, completely not caring about competitiveness and realizing that it would be horrible for competitiveness, I threw together this list. I am unlikely to ever actually run it, but man would it look awesome:

Nomads
Iguana
Gecko w/ 2 Combi Rifles
Gecko w/ Mk12
Mobile Brigada w/ MULTI Rifle
Mobile Brigada w/ Missile Launcher(or HMG)
Zero w/ Boarding Shotgun
Alguacil Paramedic
Alguacil w/ Combi Rifle

The plain old Alguacil would probably be the LT and just hide out and generate orders.

Heck yeah, just run it for fun. Plus that's a lot of armour and wounds for your opponent to shift in their active!

Have fun with the escalation league, and enjoy the insanity this game can be.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/44143-dire-foes-6-thread/

They're both just insane for 20pts.

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Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

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That feel when defersen tries to hack your overdron for the game-winning order, but the overdron crits him with a rocket instead :v:

A mate and I have been working through the tagline campaign, it's been good fun. Though honestly jungle terrain can go jump - poor movent, -1 burst, and -3bs mod everywhere makes for such a painful game (unless you've got a lot of msv). Im playing onyx, and I'm finding the overdron a nice, solid choice regardless of loadout, and frankly it's more of an auto include than a TR bot. Though that might just be the local meta meaning someone always has a turn-1 tr bot removing unit lined up.

Xeodrons I'm less sure about - I like them, but at times I feel a suryat would probably do the job better thanks to smaller size and range bands.

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