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The gangstalking thing is just sad because every single one of those people needs help. JFK people or truthers are just people who have a quirky perspective, a fun way of looking at all the chaos in the world. People who think that everyone in their life has meetings about "let's antagonize Joe by secret hand signals, you've got bus stop duty today agent 7" are trapped in a world of terrible suffering. e: on my phone, otherwise I'd track down those "gangstalking" comics that would have been a brilliant parody of fallacious reasoning if the author had any self-awareness. e2: here we go 
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Trent posted:I am no expert on any of the science, but I have always harbored a strong suspicion that the United 93 was shot down. I am just paranoid enough not to want to say why because I fear getting someone in a high station in trouble for talking about it before it even hit the news and then recanting and verbally redacting their statement. Of course, they could easily have been mistaken as well. Yeah, people at every level of the military and government were reporting all sorts of bad info to each other that day. Hell everybody was. People were saying New York had been nuked or was "gone." Time rapidly brought perspective.
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Sep 14, 2013 02:34
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I think that sometimes people can get sucked into conspiracy narratives because people outside the power structure are free to tell the truth. Most of Ron Paul's popularity can be traced back to his performance in the '08 debates, when he explained the concept of blowback to a national audience. A lot of people had simply never been exposed to any meaningful critique of US foreign policy and it blew them away. But Ron Paul isn't right about blowback because of his libertarian powers of analysis. He's right because it's easy to tell the truth when you don't have to worry about pissing off the power structure. Peter Schiff was right about the housing bubble not because his supply-side ideology gave him additional insight, he was right because he didn't have to worry about fitting in with the pundit crowd so he could just take a fat poo poo of truth on the table and walk away. A little honesty goes a long way in this world of talking points and media narratives, and people new to it are prone to thinking that because you're right about one thing, you're right about others. It's just like the doc posted above where a young Alex Jones is talking about David Icke: He gets a lot of stuff right and discredits himself at the end with a wild theory. Alex Jones says that about David Icke, Ron Paul would say it about Jones, and Noam Chomsky would (and does) say it about Paul. And Chomsky actually has the goods, but he doesn't have easy answers because there are none.
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Sep 25, 2013 19:39
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twistedmentat posted:http://i.imgur.com/7rltbY4.jpg I really would like to hear the details behind that conspiracy theorist believing that Jack White tried to steal his silver.
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Nov 7, 2013 15:18
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Animal-Mother posted:Klan hood wearing white folks and Africa medallion wearing black folks converge in opinion on the most vital of subjects: Whatever happened, the Jews were behind it. That's hugely facile and insulting. Why would you liken a simple token of black identity to a terrorist group? There's no party line against the Jews that you have to recite before picking up your medallion. Maybe if you had mentioned some specific group like the Nation of Islam, but even then the comparison is stupid.
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Nov 10, 2013 15:20
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gradenko_2000 posted:Great posts, Mr Funny Pants! I learned something today. It taught me that the approaching shot is really tough. JFK conspiracy theorists (well some of them) wonder why Oswald didn't shoot as the motorcade approached the depository. Well, because he was mostly protected by a bulletproof windshield and a huge crossbar.
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Nov 11, 2013 07:37
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There it is again. There are totally Silicon Valley creeplords who want us to have subdermal microchips. There is totally widespread government surveillance that is more effective than subdermal microchips. And Obamacare has all sorts of problems. You can dive into the systemic forces driving all of those issues, debate, and be enriched and fully participate in civic life, and maybe even play a small part in bringing about change. But no, let's tie it all together into one fuckball of nutso, then spend all our time watching TV in the basement because how do you start fighting Illuminati Microchip Obamacare?
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Nov 23, 2013 02:45
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Conspiracy theorists with face-blindness are the only people in the world who would get a pass for saying "they all look alike." But they squander it by insisting that everyone is the same person. These folks should hang out with that Russian guy who thinks all of recorded history is only like 400 years and a bunch of historical figures are actually the same people.
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Nov 27, 2013 04:24
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truther posted:I know there's been images of the two guys showing that they were in the area and left when the bomb went off but nothing else. Oh yeah, good call, surveillance isn't total. Therefore, something.
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Nov 27, 2013 08:01
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truther posted:Therefore nothing. All I asked was why haven't we seen the photos the FBI used to identify the bombers? Do you mean "harmless" or "inane"? Because it's both. Why does your brain short circuit to "there must be a picture and they're hiding it from me?" Do you understand that when a bomb goes off, people start taking more pictures?
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Nov 27, 2013 15:13
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truther posted:I asked one question, as I've repeated several times because people seem intent of making it into a big issue. Then why didn't you look a little harder before giving this question you had as an example of "I don't believe in conspiracy theories but"
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Nov 27, 2013 21:48
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truther posted:Sums it up. Best of luck to you. What is this rear end-out? Maybe you would like to post this as well to give yourself an undeserved sense of superiority?  Or would you prefer to call George Noory on Coast to Coast AM and have him act like your question was meaningful?
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Nov 27, 2013 22:20
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Look, I'm crediting truthers now. I'm appreciating their intelligence. The Duck Dynasty saga has led me to prefer wild, nonsensical conspiracy theories to manufactured crises with a racist, homophobic agenda.
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Dec 27, 2013 01:03
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It's like reverse Dunning-Kruger. It's hard not to get an idea of the scale of effort and brilliance required to land living men in a flying trash can on the Moon and bringing them back to Earth with the computing power of a Tamagotchi. "They're like, I don't know how to do that! So how could they?" Maybe a skeptic movement will emerge that alleges all events requiring massive coordination are a hoax. The "D" in D-Day stands for "Didn't happen" 
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Dec 31, 2013 08:09
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Spite posted:Have there been any conspiracies about the Voynich Manuscript? That seems ripe for them. Cool stuff takes intelligence to discover.
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Jan 2, 2014 05:55
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made of bees posted:I was expecting some bad biology, but holy poo poo, that is dumb. Yeah, viruses that make the host contagious for decades, that's totally illogical. Two HIV viruses strolling up and down in the courtyard of Plato's Academy would be like "this doesn't make any sense bro"
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Jan 2, 2014 17:59
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Larry_Mullet posted:If you wanna believe that a Nuclear Meltdown of unknown proportions doesn't pose a risk to animal or human health go right ahead. Did you just retreat to "well, pollution"?
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Jan 3, 2014 15:22
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Baronjutter posted:Don't look into the ingredients in eggs or milk. They're full of so many weird sounding chemicals and a whole bunch of elements. People should just eat basic elements and avoid chemicals. The processing plants and animals do is disgusting, they take all these fairly simple basic chemicals and process the poo poo out of them (sometimes actually processing poo poo, GROSS) in these incredibly complex ways. Sometimes just a slight difference between one plant and another's processing can make the end result poisonous or really bad for you so why take the chance. I don't trust it, why do we need to process so much? I breathe pure CO2, two elements no waiting. I'm on a cleanse bro.
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Jan 5, 2014 20:27
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Morphix posted:I havn't read all the pages, but in the first few pages I saw JFK stuff being thrown around with 9/11 and Lizard people poo poo. Haha look at this. Why, because it's so tough to make that shot?
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Jan 9, 2014 19:40
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SlipUp posted:I'm not totally sold on James Earl Ray working alone. The ballistics tests were inconclusive. Also, how the gently caress does an escape felon buy a '66 mustang, get a driver's license, cross a border multiple times, set up an unsuccessful porn ring, get rhinoplasty, get a rifle and ammunition, acquire a foreign passport and escape again? He apparently never committed any robberies or any other crime for financial gain since '59. He's ex army, and he spent a shitload of time volunteering for George Wallace but then never kept in contact with anyone? Can't wait til 2027. Those sound like the activities of approximately one million shitkickers in the 1960s. Seriously if you minutely scrutinize a person's life, a lot of them are pretty weird!
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Jan 10, 2014 08:01
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Dude it was the 1960s. Borders are porous now, back then they were a total joke. Gun laws were totally different because James Earl Ray hadn't shot Martin Luther King yet. The security state as we know it today did not exist. The money question was answered in an earlier post. But if you have the conspiracy mindset, nothing will satisfy you.
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Jan 10, 2014 09:24
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That sounds more like the far right loving the left as usual.
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Jan 10, 2014 12:25
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The gently caress is "gang stalking"? 
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Jan 12, 2014 00:07
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white privilege posted:I live in Austin, and have to constantly hear the Alex Jones Infowars bullshit. It's actually very common and popular here. I don't subscribe to much in the way of conspiracy theories, but to actually view the Warren Commission as a credible investigation is absurd. There are quite a few strange things that occurred with regards to the JFK assassination, with many strange connections as well. Do you have any coherent ideas as to what actually happened or are you "just asking questions?" Jesus it's like clockwork.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:21
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King of Hamas posted:Carlos Marcello had Kennedy killed, Oswald was the patsy. Who do you think is more likely to be able to kill an American president, a "lone nut" like Oswald or a man that ran the Mafia operations in Louisiana and Texas? Why not the CIA? What are you hiding?
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Jan 20, 2014 23:00
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Hinckley shooting Reagan was more improbable in many ways. Reagan got hit by a ricochet from a cheap .22 pistol despite being surrounded by Secret Service agents? Yeah right 
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Jan 21, 2014 20:50
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Option A: A nutbag two-bit nightclub owner with tenuous (at best) ties to organized crime is given the monumentally important task of silencing the man who could spill his guts and take down the entire conspiracy. So the mafia smart enough to put a bazillion pieces into place to get the president left one of the most important pieces to an unstable jag-off. Ah but they did silence Ruby! By giving him cancer, the most abrupt of takeouts.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:15
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Morphix posted:I still don't get why *farts into room, runs away*
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Jan 21, 2014 22:09
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MizPiz posted:Still got enough sizeable holes a conspiracy theory can live, but I'm coming around. For the record, nobody needs to know about a conspiracy to be involved in it Then it's not a conspiracy, period. You are wrong.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:15
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MizPiz posted:Because people only get involved with or do things when they know every minute detail about it. No one ever does anything simply for the sake of themselves, someone close to them, or even a personal belief they hold. If what you meant to say was that people can unwittingly participate in conspiracy theories, you are correct. What you said was that conspiracies can take place without anyone knowing they are participating in a conspiracy, which doesn't make any sense.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:48
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Morphix posted:I don't at all, I've shot a gun once in my life. You don't get to have a point after saying that. quote:could a bullet look like that after impacting several bones? Yes. Bullets are made of metal and bone is made of...why do I bother.
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Jan 22, 2014 02:05
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Morphix posted:This is a magical quote. I love you. It's so simple, ones metal, the other is bone. Open and shut case Johnson. How the gently caress would you know how simple it is? You already said you're completely ignorant of ballistics.
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Jan 22, 2014 02:54
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Morphix posted:This reeks of the NSA spying scandal. Bunch of people basically willing to take the word of a corrupt government at face value because gently caress history n' poo poo, we're living in the now! Must post snipes on a forum, must be right, MUST BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS OK! No, the issue is that we know the government is corrupt but we bother to engage with details, consistency and coherency. You're the guy who would have been like "the NSA hacked facebook, Kanye West is a CIA agent and 'Mercy' is about how the government did 9/11 but Obama keeps deleting my devastating tweets" while the rest of us learn things. There are countless conspiracies with evidence and a coherent narrative for you to engage with, because they actually happened. But you'd rather masturbate. As long as you circle the truther toilet, you're human waste.
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Jan 22, 2014 03:11
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MizPiz posted:Going through this thread again, I got a few questions to ask: Stop asking questions and start saying things. Give an example of this happening. Don't ask another question until you do.
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Jan 22, 2014 04:31
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Lightning Jim posted:There's a new conspiarcy theory about 9/11 coming out of the David Icke forums: This is at the level of "play Dark Side of the Moon and the Wizard of Oz together" but then it somehow translates into real things happening.
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Jan 23, 2014 02:39
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I mean at least freaking out about The Coup made sense after a fashion.
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Jan 23, 2014 06:36
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So like the coffins keep you alive, by themselves being alive? People who know the truth will be warehoused in paralysis, a waking sleep, buried alive (khan!). From time to time, Barry Soetoro and Ban-Ki Moon will tour the vaults and slide out a prepper's stasis coffin-drawer to mock them, or perhaps to harvest a portion of their life-energy. What I want to know is, doesn't abortion provide the globalists with sufficient life-energy?
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Feb 5, 2014 22:14
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There's only one motherfucking Emperor in San Francisco.
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Miss-Bomarc posted:Cheap energy is necessary to have a life that is at all meaningful. Right now that means oil. If someone invented a battery technology that could do more than drive a go-kart a couple dozen miles, we'd switch over to it. Battery technology is actually pretty good, but what does it have to do with getting off of fossil fuels? Batteries are charged with the burning of fossil fuels often enough.
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