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Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Metal Loaf posted:

I've heard that fantasy authors are generally more liberal while science-fiction writers tend to be more conservative, but I've not seen any particular evidence for either assertion myself.

J.K. Rowling is a committed socialist, if that helps.

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Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


This is one of the things they put under Nightmare Fuel for Modern Warfare (it's on the YMMV page, though; no whole page devoted to it, which I'm not sure is good or bad):

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After all the Tranquil Fury and general badassery by Price, in both games, General Shepherd hands him his rear end in a fist fight. Seeing someone like that receive a No Holds Barred Beat Down is SCARY.

Oh no mommy the ULTRA MEGA SUPER AWESOME BADASS Captain Price got beat up now what do I do :ohdear: :cry:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


They actually dedicated an entire loving article to something in an FPS being unrealistic.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneBulletClips


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One thing that videogames have come to acknowledge is that if you have three hundred rounds for your pistol, you can't just shoot it three hundred times without a break, since most weapons aren't belt-fed. Today, almost all games with firearms require a reload period while an animation shows the player character removing the previous magazine and inserting a new one. So now it's totally realistic, right? Um, well...

...Try just shooting one round in a videogame, then reloading. The animation will show your character removing a magazine from the gun, often dropping it or even throwing it away in the process, and loading a new one. But the number of rounds you have available for reloading will go down by just one. Moreover, even if the magazine is retained during the reload animation, you'll never load a magazine and find it's that same one with one cartridge missing; instead, your remaining ammunition is treated as if you're carrying it in the form of single-round stripper clips that are invisibly consolidated into as many full magazines as possible, with ammo from discarded mags magically returning to your stock. It's almost like the FPS Elves take a break from sweeping up spent brass and plastering over bullet holes to climb into your webbing and sort your ammo out for you.

:spergin: Guys did you know that reloading doesn't work like in FPSes? It's true! See, you can't just throw away the mag unless it's completely empty, you have to eject the spent rounds and it's even worse with revolvers because they don't bother to show the rounds being chambered and...

Leave it to TVTropes to bitch about modern war shooters having unrealistic reloading, instead of actual serious issues like kneejerk wanking over imperialistic American foreign policy.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


I found this on the Nightmare Fuel page for Legend of Zelda:

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Ironically, the "puzzle solved" sound. It's loud, and the chiptune-esque way it sounds can make players jump because it sounds out-of-place in a game that otherwise uses more modern video game sounds. It's particularly startling in dungeons, as it runs counter to the eerie calmness of the background sounds and music when there are no enemies around.

Tropers are so manchildy they're scared of a cheery noise just because it's startling.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Improbable Lobster posted:

I remember some of the Fallout New Vegas devs being asked by a troper if the I Am Not Left Handed challenge was a reference to tvtropes.

Oh for...:psyduck:

It came from The Princess Bride. They admit it came from Princess Bride on the trope page, goddamn

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The trope name and the page quote come from The Princess Bride. Inigo Montoya is so good that he fights with his left hand just to keep things somewhat challenging, but when faced with the Man in Black, he realises he's being outmatched, and switches the sword back to his right hand to gain the upper hand again. Too bad the Man in Black was also fighting with his off-hand, presumably for the same reason. If you look closely, you'll notice when the Man in Black first starts to draw his sword, he is drawing it with his right hand until he notices that Inigo plans to fight with his left-hand.

Christ, when tropers aren't being neckbeard creepazoids (:stonk: LIKE THAT FLUFFY PONY poo poo :stonk: :cry:) they're being egotistical idiots who think the world revolves around them.

But that's just preaching to the choir.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Alpacalips Now posted:

I think that tropers don't like classic science fiction because they seem like the kind of dolts who read that a character in the future is using a radio or writing with a pen and paper and they immediately scoff at how the setting is so inaccurate and implausible. Never mind that 1984 is perhaps more relevant than it ever has been, or that William Gibson's work, for all of its clunky 80's-early 90's futurism, raises important questions about how technology is altering humanity. Alien hasn't aged a day because it taps into so many primal fears. But why explore boring, hard themes when you can feel so clever for pointing out that no one will be using land line phones in 2030? I think that 25 years from now, the equivalent of tropers will roll their eyes at Mass Effect and Firefly for the same reasons.

There is actually a whole trope devoted to this kind of stuff

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Zeerust

tl;dr "Man those writers in the 1950s sure were dumb since they couldn't predict the internet, amirite? :smug:"

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Hey, guys! Let's check out the WMG page for 1984, because CLEARLY what the most famous dystopian novel of all time needs is a bunch of lonely pedophile dweebs feverishly dreaming up insane theories about it!

1984 is a sequel to Jack London's The Iron Heel, and the rebels of that book eventually won and became the Party posted:

London's rebel Socialists and Orwell's Party both call each other "comrade," hate capitalists, are masters of disguise and undercover work, are adept at brainwashing (as seen by the incident in The Iron Heel involving young Wilkins), value abstaining from all sexual relationships so as not to distract one from his or her devotion to the cause (the Red Virgin Anna Royalston and male rebels who refuse to marry are honored and praised just like the Comrade Ogilvy Winston invents), and encourage family members to turn against each other in support of the cause (one of London's rebels is excommunicated for protecting his traitor son, and Party children are turned into spies against their parents). "The Brotherhood of Man" that (eventually) defeated the Iron Heel is either the Party, or the hegemony that succeeded the Party.
:tvtropes: "There are a lot of similarities between two different groups in two different groups, CLEARLY they're the same canon!"

Room 101 contains a boggart posted:

It's your worst fear, after all? So if Winston had been a wizard, and he'd had access to his wand, then all he'd have to do would be to say "Riddikulus" and the rats would turn into Alvin and the Chipmunks or something.
"A Thing Happens in one novel kinda like another novel. Clearly a connection."

Oh, do not forget the inevitable Doctor Who theory

The Doctor will come in his TARDIS and save the day posted:

1. It seems that in order for anything to change would take outside interference. 2. I really really want it to be true!

because of course

ALIENS.jpg

The Party WILL fall. Via Aliens posted:

Now, it's quite a stretch, but this is how I think it'll all go down:

The Party want to rule forever.
If Eastasia or Eurasia win and beat back the surviving state, things won't change much and there'll never be another state.
Eventually, assuming humanity doesn't nuke itself into oblivion, aliens will show up. Why? Well, the Party, whichever state it's from, is apparently unstoppable, i.e. there will never be a successful rebellion. This also means that, with the war apparently being perpetual, someone WILL lose eventually, assuming it's not just Oceania screwing with everyone. In that case, there is already only one party. Anyway, with no threat, life will go on as it always has... until something from far away in the galaxy shows up, albeit in a very advanced stage of the Party's collective life. What happens then is up to debate. Aliens might conquer, since the Party, as a whole, would never progress (science is obliterated) and would be kind of military pushovers who keep lying and doublethinking to themselves. They might help the common man for whatever reason. Who knows? But if the Party keeps stamping on a face "forever", they'd better be prepared for the odds of something like this happening.
Or maybe this will be the successful rebellion
The aliens and rebels work together
The party loses the war
The Party is forced into Room 101 until they die.

Inevitable incest theories are go

The prostitute Winston sleeps with is his mom posted:

Think about it. She's about the age his mother would have been, and it's never directly said what happened to her. Maybe at some point, rather than join the Party, she became a prole.

Julia is Winston's sister posted:

Winston isn't sure of his exact age, right? And they both have dark hair...

Hence why the Party cracked down on them, it wans't because they were having sex for pleasure (seriously, how can sex for pleasure be a threat to the power hunger of the Party? It's like saying playing with an old, harmless toy is a threat to your mom, or Tv Tropes is a threat to wikipedia), it was because of the outright Squick that even the Party and Big Brother himself can't handle.....
Winston's hair is, "very fair."
Sex leads to attachments, which lead to people's loyalties being outside party needs. That is why they hate it. Almost every totalitarian system in history has despised sex, from Phillip and Isabella to Stalin.
^this one is particularly funny because it's literally just, "they're the same age AND THEY HAVE DARK HAIR OH GOD NO ONE HAS DARK HAIR WITHOUT BEING SECRET-INCEST FUCKERS RIGHT?!?!?"

East Asia is ruled by Anonymous posted:

The name of their ideology is translated as "Obliteration of the Self", right?

So, Death worship is actually Desu Worship? Eastasia is better, it has memes and anonymity hence Rule 34 hence way more better than anti-sexual Ingsoc, better move to Eastasia.... *unpersoned by Thought Policemen*
According to Orwell himself, it's supposed to be a totalitarian deformation of Buddhist and Taoist teachings. Might be a Take That on Mao's instrumentalization (and subsequently violent deformation) of Confucianism in his own ideology.

Now if you wanna be generous you can say that, oh, 1/2 (or so) of these were joke theories, but a) that assumes tropers know anything about humor, and b) that still leaves another 1/2 which is completely serious.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


While we're at it, let's check out the general trope page for 1984, because I really want you to hate tropers right now.

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The Bad Guy Wins: The whole point of this book is that moral and/or ethical standards are irrelevant to Realpolitik, and thus the good guys never will remake the world in their image. Ever.
Oh yeah, because that was what Orwell really wanted to warn us about, realpolitik. Thanks for the amazing analysis.

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Big Brother Is Employing You: Winston works for the Party.
Thanks for nothing, captain obvious.

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Crapsack World: Living in the world of 1984 is a Fate Worse than Death even worse than living in a Cosmic Horror Story. At least in a Cosmic Horror Story you lived just like a Prole with privacy and freedom because the gods don't care about your thought-crimes (unless, of course, your curious mind actively seek them out with punishments galore).
They can't even talk about dystopias without bringing in the Lovecraft comparisons.

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Disproportionate Retribution: The hell Winston Smith is put through is astonishing, considering that his rebellious acts — keeping a diary, having an affair and enjoying it — are so trivial and furtive that he would pose no threat to the Party at all if he were only left alone. Very likely he would not agitate, or publish samizdat tracts, or even whisper thoughtcrime to his acquaintances. He would just go on and on, writing lies for the Ministry of Truth and meeting up with Julia and wondering wistfully if there is a Brotherhood, until his natural death. But for the Party, mere obedience is not enough.
Tropers Missing the Point of Everything: Episode 1,204,141,043,814

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False Flag Operation: It is heavily implied that Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia are basically ruled by the same ideology, and are bombing each other/themselves to create a Pretext for War and totalitarianism, and that the Party is using the Brotherhood to bait dissidents for capture.
It's flat-out stated a million times, you dumbasses.

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Not So Different: The rival countries. Oceania may be bad, but the implication is that the two other superstates, Eurasia and Eastasia, are almost exactly identical to it. The three states are always at war with each other, with nobody ever winning. If you live in one of the areas the three states are always fighting over, you are a slave in both body and mind to whoever has power over the area at the current time.

It is heavily implied that an unspoken gentleman's agreement exists between the three states that they will never make a serious effort to destroy the others - this is the reason no state ever uses mass conscription or WMDs - because the war is part of the Evil Plan for the three of them to keep the standard of living down and mobilize the hatred of the population. Goldstein's book even mentions that Oceania could probably conquer all of Europe up to the Polish frontier, or that Eastasia could likely seize Australia, but that neither state does so for fear of upsetting the Balance of Power.

In fact, the actual state of the world is so poorly known that (a) the idea that Oceania dominates the entire world, and the existence of the other states is simply a fiction to justify a war with which to keep people's expectations of a better life crushed, and (b) the idea that Oceania is little more than a Banana Republic consisting of only Airstrip One, and is applying propaganda to make its position on the world stage sound grander than it really is, are both equally valid interpretations of what might really be going on. The "Three states making only token attacks on each other" is just one other possibility which may or may not be the truth.
More saying stuff that was outright said was only "implied"!

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Secret Police: The Thought Police.
Why no, what if?

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


William Bear posted:

I don't know if it's just me, but I just did a google search for the Turner Diaries. Result one is its Wikipedia page. Result two is its Tvtropes page.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheTurnerDiaries?from=Main.TurnerDiaries

I get that it might be worthwhile to point out its flaws in logic, but it doesn't seem like an appropriate format.

On the YMMV page there's this gem:

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Genius Bonus: Take a good look at the colors of the book cover: red, white, and black. Look familiar together, don't they?
"Red, white, and black" potholes to "Those Wacky Nazis". You mean those colors are associated with Nazism/white nationalism? Only a genius could figure that out. :downs:


Also this:

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The increasingly-stricter demands by public groups for gun control makes one wonder just how stupid the idea of Congress throwing out the Second Amendment might be.

Demands for stricter gun control after mass shootings = OH GOD OBAMA IS GONNA TAKE OUR GUNS ANY DAY NOW RUN :supaburn: :supaburn:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


quote:

The four armed dragon picked up a surprisingly appropriately sized phone out of nowhere, all the while carrying a crystal ball, "You have reached Swami Parallaxus, fortune teller who can tell you your future, your present, your past, your past that was retconned in, your past that occurred in an Elseworlds, your past that has been rendered no longer in continuit- Huh, she hanged up."
^most offensive part of that whole thing in bold right there

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Random Stranger posted:

It's a rule of thumb that you just use "said" for dialog unless you know what you're doing by not using it. Obviously this guy hasn't heard of that rule.

:eng101: There is actually a trope about this!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SaidBookism

Naturally they never apply it to themselves, because tropers.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


I'm more amazed they found anything to "analyze" in a Call of Duty game.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Oh hey, speaking of tropers being terrified of everything

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/SuperMarioBros

The first thing on the list:

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Several people are terrified by Boos. It pretty much all boils down to the fact that they only chase you when you're not looking. It only leaves the door open to Fridge Horror.

For those who havebeen living under a rockn't played Super Mario Bros., this is a Boo:



:spooky: Terrifying! :spooky:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Sham bam bamina! posted:

Uh... what? How, specifically?

They turn invisible when you look at them so I guess the idea is that you realize a homicidal ghost was ~right there~ and you never realized it or something?

It would probably work better if they looked like something other than cartoony floating puff-balls.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Troper Obsession With Rape: Item #4,709,412,848,103

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/AceAttorney

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In the first Ace Attorney game's final case, Damon Gant asks the 16-year-old Ema to stay in his office after he kicks Phoenix and Gumshoe out. Afterward, Ema seems... withdrawn. Very withdrawn. Um.

He was blackmailing Lana and could pretty much do anything he wanted with her. Ew.
And Phoenix just left her there without a second thought? What the Hell, Hero?

"Um." potholes to the Memetic Molester page. "Because it's not like he could have violently threatened her or done anything else that would scare the crap out of her, it must have been rape!" :tvtropes:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


this has probably been pointed out already but on their Something Awful page

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A Darker Me: It's a joke on Something Awful that every goon is a nerdy, overweight "neckbeard" in Real Life. Individual goons, however, tend to make up obvious lies about how awesome they are for the fun of it.
>projection.txt

:allears:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


quote:

(it was due to a Chrome plugin that changes the word 'cloud' to 'butt' - I have since removed this plugin from my browser)
this is the greatest excuse i have ever read hahahaha :allears:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


I found the dumbest Fridge:

Fridge: Modern Warfare posted:

Another No Russian one: obviously shooting any of the terrorists will lead them to brand Allen a traitor and kill him in retaliation. But why would throwing a flashbang or grenade too close to the group lead to the same reaction? Because getting hit by an unexpected blast would cause them to cry out in Russian, giving their true nationalities away. Most people, even if fluent in another language and have it ingrained in their heads, will yell in their native tongue in a sudden moment of severe pain/surprise. Pvt. Allen's stupid act would have jeapordized the mission just as much as wearing a shirt saying "WE'RE NOT AMERICANS, WE'RE RUSSIANS!"

Yes, obviously the reason Makarov's gang turn on Allen if he tosses a flashbang/grenade their way is due to some dumb psychoanalytic bullshit about yelling in native languages as opposed to he threw a flashbang/grenade at them.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Alpacalips Now posted:

I probably played Wind Waker more than any other Zelda game because its graphics, music and over all fun never failed to cheer me up, and it helped me through some rough times. Let's see why I should have been making GBS threads myself like a wuss instead of enjoying it.




It's easy to beat, it makes loud noises, and looks like a tiki statue. It's practically a Scooby Doo monster, and someone's trying desperately to convince the world it will haunt your dreams.

Now to be fair those things are loving terrifying. And by "are" I mean "were". And by "were" I mean "when I was 7 years old".

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


1984 was supposed to be an insight into the totalitarian mindset? I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a "this is what all totalitarianism, Soviet, Fascist, or Nazi, is like IRL" without giving a poo poo about what the rulers thought. :psyduck:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


sweeperbravo posted:

Didn't namtab or somebody do a chapter-by-chapter tour of this travesty

I think he gave up at the part where a 12-year old boy plots literal rape

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Going back to creepypastas, I was skimming the YMMV page for the NES Godzilla Creepypasta (which is probably the most decent creepypasta I've ever read) and found this:

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Paranoia Fuel: To anyone who owns, or has ever owned, Godzilla: Monster of Monsters for the NES. Maybe Zachary's copy isn't the only one of its kind floating around. Or maybe you had/have it and were never aware of it! Feel like giving it a whirl?

Are you loving real?

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


I found this insanity on the Draco in Leather Pants page for Harry Potter:

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To be fair, while it's true Voldie was never a nice guy the rather heavy-handed way this is shown has lead to some fan revolt—we only ever hear Dumbledore's side of the story. The orphanage matron's complaints in the pensive memory sound eerily similar to the slander Harry receives on Privet drive which opens up an Alternate Character Interpretation of Tom Riddle being a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds. And then there's Dumbledore's method of dealing with a troubled kleptomaniac orphan with mental/behavioral problems: is to set his things on fire and think that will teach him a lesson. It taught him a lesson all right—that Might Makes Right. And just like with Harry, Dumbledore could have helped Tom but he chose not to. He kept sending Tom back to the muggle orphanage in the middle of the Blitz and then you wonder why the guy is interested in, you know, not dying.

I think my favorite part is that line at the end. "He grew up during THE BLITZ, man, it's not his fault he turned into a bloodthirsty, power-hungry, mass-murdering sociopath who was basically the wizard equivalent of Hitler! :qq:"

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Tropers wrote over 140,000 words about an adventure novel series in a fictional cartoon THAT DIDN'T EXIST TO BEGIN WITH BLAGHRARGA

End thread, this shall be our monument to all that is wrong with tropers.

e: going back to Harry Potter, I just realized something that made the whole "VOLDIE GREW UP IN THE BLITZ WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS KILLING PEOPLE AND LITERALLY TEARING APART HIS SOUL TO STAY IMMORTAL :qq:" point irrelevant. Hogwarts terms begin in September and end in the summer (June?). The Blitz lasted from 7 September 1940 to 21 May 1941.

Hogwarts is a boarding school in Scotland.

In other words, Tom Riddle was completely safe from the Blitz the entire time (or nearly the entire time) it was happening.

You may now return to your marveling at troper obsession with ponies.

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Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Lottery of Babylon posted:

Some people are able to work out that LBJ must have been Vice President at some point if he became President when JFK was shot. But that logic doesn't extend to Lincoln; after Lincoln was shot there just wasn't a President.

Uh, what? Did I miss something?

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


From the Forrest Gump Fridge page:

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On the subject of Vietnam, I realized later that the flag hanging on Lt. Dan's latrine in the scene when Forrest and Bubba arrive is a Viet Cong flag. Three guesses what they use for toilet paper when they run out of the usual stuff.
Which is all very well and good, except this was placed under the "Fridge Horror" heading (tl;dr: you're thinking after watching some show and realize an aspect of said show has horrifying implications...theoretically, anyway). Since it it so horrifying, the thought of someone using a flag as toilet paper.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


tacodaemon posted:

The Internet claims that this is what an N cup looks like



In the movie Seven Kevin Spacey kills a dude by making him eat a ridiculous amount of food and then kicking his stomach so it explodes.

I wonder if we can apply the same principle to this lady's tits.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


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None of the tentacles go up her skirt, but on the other hand Gabrielle isn't burned, either.
Isn't this pretty much definitive proof he didn't penetrate her :psyduck:

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


They believe there is scary stuff in Barney and Friends.

I'm going to repeat that.

They believe there is scary stuff in Barney and Friends.

Demolish the Pony Indiana Jones statue, we have found a new, greater monument to the inherent wrongness in tropers.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


BlueDude posted:

No way. The eternal monument to troperdom is still this:



You can have multiple monuments for the same thing!

The Barney monument will be for their wimpiness and the breast chart will be for their creepiness. Other monuments will be considered at a later date.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Segmentation Fault posted:

Wasn't "the gift" an M16 or something?

IIRC it was a piece of the egg Barney hatched from (which somehow survived for 65 million years) and they threw it into a hole which summoned Barney's mom from the Cretaceous period to kill him or something.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


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Alternatively, Alice isn't so innocent as she looks, and is cynically manipulating Bob for her own ends, while Bob, a prisoner of his own attraction and Alice's mind games, can only follow along helplessly, knowing that if he slips up, or she gets bored with him, Alice can ruin his reputation and get him thrown in jail with ease and make herself look like the victim.

Oh for Christ's sake. Of course they had to throw in a scenario where the girl is an evil dirty manipulative slut toying with the poor helpless pedophile, because to do otherwise could imply that *gasp* there is something wrong with people who get boners over 12-year old girls!! (i.e. 90% of TVTropes).

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Cornwind Evil posted:

Tropers can't handle the most basic people interactions, you think they can wrap their heads around complicated things like that?

I was listening to a history podcast recently that talked about how the Mongols had their victims so terrified that one Mongol rounded up a group of people to kill, then realized he forgot his weapon. He told them to wait while he got it, and they ALL STAYED THERE AND WAITED, even though he was ALL ALONE, until he came back and killed them all. Do you really want to work out how tropers would try to understand something like that?

Knowing them, their Assessment would be A Sentence with lots of Randomly Capitalized Words because You Can Define existence by Applying Fiction Concepts To Everything.

And those that did get it would show they didn't really get it anyway by shoehorning in the stupid Firefly list.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013



Holy hell these are some of the worst borders I've ever seen in my life. And I've seen Tom Clancy maps.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


quote:

Have you ever been confronted by a large chunk of text and caught your eyes heading toward the upper left corner of the page in pursuit of the "Find on Page" function before realizing you were looking at a book and not a web browser?

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Automatically skipping over banner ads before realizing you're reading a text book and all the brightly coloured, highlighted boxes are in fact "important key information" notes.

Dear Lord how much of a shut-in do you have to be for these to seriously apply

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


BlueDude posted:

*insert my childhood being raped, burned, and shot here :stonk:*

How exactly does predestination work? Is it "yeah you're going to hell even if you're Mr. Rogers because God said so" or is it "You're going to hell and God has planned out your life so you WILL end up deserving it"? Because if it's the latter, I think I know where tropers are predestined to go...

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Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Dr. Killjoy posted:

1984 but with animes.
Julia is a tsundere

The day TV Tropes tries to intersect 1984 with their pointless bullshit animespeak is the day I start a campaign to wipe tropers from the face of the earth.

Oh wait they already did. Welp, load up the M60s and B-17s, guys.

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