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The governor as a ruthless version of Rick would have been perfect, but sadly I don't think that was even the original intention.
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Pretty good start to the season, setting up some kind of normalcy before presumably things break down.
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I would assume it's food borne considering they spent a lot of time focusing on that sick pig, and we saw the kid cooking something earlier that he may have eaten off screen.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:What the hell was D'Angelo trying to do to that zombie while he was trapped under the liquor shelf? It looked like he was peeling open his skill to poke it's brains with his finger.
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etalian posted:What's the point, haven't HBO and Starz already cornered the naked bum market?
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I'm not really thrilled with this character turn for Carol...it seems way out of character to me. I guess they foreshadowed it earlier with teaching the kids to kill with knives, and the scene with the kids and their zombie father. It's also kind of a disappointment that they solved that mystery within one episode. I still like what they're doing with the character writing, it's miles ahead of where the show has been with most of its major characters since the beginning. Michonne is actually a decent character now that competent writers get to write for her.
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Teek posted:No big surprise, renewed for another season:
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Pretty good episode. I appreciate them trying to have some nuance in the differences between the views of characters, rather than the wasted opportunity that was the Governor last season. Lots of good character moments.
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Svanja posted:And I am just pissed I have to wait another week for the Daryl-Rick interaction.
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I really hope Scott Gimple has some good idea of how to use the Governor, because otherwise I'm afraid that his reappearance is going to derail what has been arguably the best season thus far.
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I liked the struggle Hershel had with trying to help people and being forced to acknowledge that he wasn't going to save everyone, as the other doctor told him. Like Rick, until the last minute he was doing his best to preserve a sense of civility in the worst possible situation, with taking the trouble of moving the dead bodies into the other room before stabbing them in the head. He could barely even bring himself to do it, as Glenn mentioned to him. Rick also did everything he could to shield Carl from the reality of their situation, until no other options were left. I think that's been one of the show's strengths to date- the characters struggling to preserve society after it has completely collapsed, even to the point of absurdity (like with the moving of the bodies). This season they've actually spent the time developing characters and their relationships, whereas in the previous seasons that fell to the wayside for someone in danger, usually. The second season had too much of that.
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Crankit posted:Was there any follow up on that radio station Daryl heard in the car, or was he not interest because they didn't play his favourite 2 kinds of music country, and western?
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Evernoob posted:Kind of funny we haven't had any significant Darryl screentime for about 3 episodes in a row, and people aren't flaming about it.
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zoux posted:Access to means, I think it's important to consider whether intent or outcome is a bigger indicator of "monsterhood". Like when people in this thread are literally cheering the murder of that one dude by Carl or going bonkers in favor of all the anti-social murderous behavior that we see week to week are monsters or not.
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Well unfortunately my fears were realized with this episode.... I was hoping to see SOMETHING new with the Governor and his story arc, but now we're rebooting Season 3 except now he has a family? That's a big letdown. The last thing I really wanted to see was another Gov/Rick showdown over the prison yet again. It seemed like they were actually going somewhere with this episode until he summarily executed Martinez. I actually thought this made sense in a way, since of course Martinez was the only one alive who knew what the Gov did at Woodbury. But everything went off the rails after that, with not-Rick and not-Shane in the woods. I like Kirk Acevedo, but it's disappointing to see him basically taking Martinez's place as the Gov's number two. I hope he actually gets to do something other than follow the Governor, but I'm not counting on that. It just comes off as a waste of buildup for two episodes, to bring us right back to the end of the last season, zombie lake and all. I understand the idea of trying to set up a different motivation for his actions this time, but does that really need to involve him doing the same thing in the end? I think it would have been a bit easier to swallow if that zombie had managed to bite his new daughter, which would have better fleshed out the necessity of taking over the prison in his mind. I get that he's basically now on a straight line towards doing what he thinks he has to do in order to protect his new family, but I wish they could have set up a different conflict than one we've already had in essentially the same way. The Gov saw Rick as a threat to his stability and sense of order last season, and that clearly hasn't changed.
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I also don't think that they had any real plan for movement after season 2 other than get out of the way of the zombie herds.
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Well that was a satisfying conclusion to the Governor arc, if nothing else. Didn't like to see Hershel go, but I figured that was likely to happen more so than the rest of the cast, who at this point are either too hard to replace or just got there. I didn't like the setup at all, since it came off to me last week as far too sudden that the Governor's new group would trust him after everything that happened before that. But it was a perfectly fitting end that he failed to protect the ones he loved through his complete inability to be happy with any situation (and I have to think a need for revenge against Rick as well). I'm glad they had his not-wife off him like that, after she watched her own daughter die because of his complete insanity. This battle was the one we should have gotten at the end of last season, but for whatever reason they couldn't go through with it. I'm glad they ended this story arc for good this time around. It was a little forced how they had to put off the whole Tyreese side-plot and the mystery of who was dissecting the rats, but it does make me suspect that Carol was probably not responsible for those murders like we thought. Although if she's covering for someone other than the one weird girl it makes less sense that she would take the credit and eventual exile. Hopefully that sideplot goes somewhere in the 2nd half. I'm glad they're keeping most of the cast intact post-Governor, so that hopefully we get to see more of what we saw the beginning of the season with good character building. Characters like Bob need more screen time. I'm also not buying that the baby is actually dead. I'm sure one of the kids or possibly Tera grabbed her in the chaos.
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I heard someone say on another site that the Irish woman from the first episode showed up as a zombie in this one? I don't know if that's true though.
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euphronius posted:Kirkman said in Talking dead they (the writers) are having an increasingly hard time of killing people off.
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So I guess then they will probably say that Bob killed the two people since he is a serial killer and saw an opportunity? If they go with that, I'm not sure why Carol would take the credit though. Hopefully it is still the case that she offed them.moths posted:Wasn't Bob also the sole survivor of like two other groups?
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I have to think Glenn and/or Maggie are the next to go. I know a lot of people thought one of them could have been offed earlier.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I could see that, the actor is good friends with Darabont and probably wanted out the minute he was fired. FlamingLiberal fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Carol's still on the show and I would have to think will be back very soon.
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Nobody even cared enough about Low Winter Sun to notice the cancellation I guess
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I'm sure he's right, after reading the crap they were pulling behind the scenes with all of their other good shows.
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socialsecurity posted:Everyone is infected so I assume the virus is airborne that means anyone who dies anywhere turns meaning that the numbers can grow quickly and even if you kill them all one sick person can trigger the whole deal again it makes sense why so many died.
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I'll be more surprised at this point if it's not Bob.
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A pretty meandering episode. The Michonne stuff was a little better than the stupid things Carl was doing. It still feels to me like they could have condensed the episode more and folded it into another. I guess they're going to do this group split action for awhile? I hope more is going on with the bigger group. I'm also not sure how Rick was able to stay on his feet for that long after getting that beating. I never thought he would make it to that house under his own power.
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The show goes into a loop as Carol becomes the Governess.
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Kirkman just did a Nerdist podcast, and at least from what he's saying he's just another writer in the room, and Scott Gimple ultimately has the final say with the show. Take that for what you will. He did talk about the Daryl thing, but didn't come off anywhere near as douchey as that interview posted above. I think he knows that it would be a mistake to kill off Daryl out of spite.
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I don't know about that, they could have made Kirkman showrunner if they really wanted that already.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this half of the season is starting to feel like it's just setting up to introduce the next season. We're already almost halfway through this half of the season, and it seems like the characters are very slowly heading towards this Terminus place. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Lycus posted:Merle's death was the culmination of his redemption arc, so that was okay. Dale's death felt like, "The viewers don't like this guy, and we can't come up with anything interesting for him to do, so let's suddenly write him off the show". Merle got a great death and I don't think it could have really been done much better.
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So it just occurred to me that there are now no Woodbury characters left. They really did just use them as meat shields this season.
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At the rate this is going, they will arrive at the end of the last episode, but we won't see anything really. Everyone still has to get there, and we have to deal with Daryl and that gang he joined up with first. Plus Glenn and the military people.
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The biggest problem with Season 2 was having the Sophia story drag on for so long. It was completely unnecessary.
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I've been honestly surprised how little screen time Rick has gotten during this half of the season. I think it's the least of the entire series.
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Austrian mook posted:Why weren't there anyone at Terminus aside from the woman? Even if it's not cannibals, it's something, especially from the preview at the end of the episode. There's no way in hell Terminus is actually a good place.
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Philip J Fry posted:Was the voice on the radio hers? It's been so long now I can't even remember if it was male or female.
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Carl will die because the kid playing him is getting too old or something
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