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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Caseman posted:

Probably the only way to get this since I guess the re-issue is never happening.

The disc of lost fragile tracks is in the vault next to tapeworm I guess. :(

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

There will probably never be another Woodstock after 'rape and riot' stock 99

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

The Cleaner posted:

Phones?

Consider yourself lucky. More and more of these Darwinian hopefuls are recording with iPads.

I understand/accept that people might like to film a little bit with their phones but using an iPad is ridiculous.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

It really is a nightmarish story, I advise not looking into the details of the case.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Honestly it's kind of embarrassing how hard he's walked back the stuff he said a couple years ago.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

obeyasia posted:

If I could erase dumb poo poo I said in the past in the light of new experiences and information, I would too. It's unreasonable to expect ones attitude to remain the same for their entire life and you're a childish poo poo slinger if you think this is some kind of "gotcha" moment.

New information like what? It's not like he's just now discovered what being on a major label was like. For all the talk of how labels were dinosaurs he went running back to them really fast.

I guess I'm just finding Trent increasingly lame in general over the past 4-5 years.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

TheJoker138 posted:

The new information was probably "touring and promoting an album off of a major label is really loving expensive and hard, even with my die hard internet fans."

Then he shouldn't have been so quick to give 100 interviews talking about how behind the times and obsolete major labels are.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Semi unrelated but I just heard Daisy Berkowitz is dying of colon cancer. What a bummer, he's a large part of what made Manson great in the early years.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010


I got really excited before I realized this was an interview and not a link to the demos.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I don't remember whether it's been mentioned here before, but Recoiled will be released on January 24th, a semi-unauthorized release of unused Coil remixes from the 90s:

http://www.amazon.com/Recoiled-Coil/dp/B00I2O9XOU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392772255&sr=8-2&keywords=recoiled

quote:

1. "Gave Up (Open My Eyes)" 5:28
2. "Closer (Unrecalled)" 7:41
3. "The Downward Spiral (A Gilded Sickness)" 7:59
4. "Eraser (Reduction)" 4:14
5. "Eraser (Baby Alarm Remix)" 8:02

I wouldn't be surprised if this was shut down by Interscope eventually so I'd grab it early.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

The Marvel movies are starting to get formulaic. They found a formula that works so they keep repeating it.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Twiin posted:

New Trent interview on The Quietus, includes discussion of Test Dept, Throbbing Grisle, and the Sleazy collab that never happened.

Argh. I would have loved to hear that Sleazy collab, NIN and Coil complimented each other so well when they worked together.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Didn't Trent completely poo poo on Chris Cornell publicly at some point?

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I'm disappointed Trent thinks audiophile woowoo is cool.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I guessing working in the relevant field doesn't really make you immune to magical thinking. My sister has worked in the medical field for 20 years and she's delaying back surgery to pursue alternative medicine.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Neil Young probably has hearing loss after playing big live shows for so long. Even if there was a difference he wouldn't be able to hear it with his way-below average hearing thanks to age and probably not wearing earplugs onstage.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

It makes you feel really old when albums you bought in highschool are coming out with 20th anniversary editions.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

The Fragile reissue is pretty much the musical holy grail to me.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I wouldn't call PHM or Broken or even TDS innovative. PHM sounds like Ministry's With Sympathy, Broken again sounds like what Ministry was doing at the time, and TDS is like 90-92 Era Skinny Puppy with better production. The Fragile is where I'd say the 'NIN sound' first originated and is most exemplified, though you can see hints of it in FTDS.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

david_a posted:

although off the top of my head I can't think of a single NIN song with a movie dialogue sample in it.

Like half the PHM demos had movie dialog in them but they was all removed for the proper release.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

The one that sounds like Trent is Trent. The one that features Ministry-style distorted vocals is either Al or just Trent again depending on what rumors you believe.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Kennedy is a conservative talk radio host in California now.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Is HTDA even still a thing? It feels like they went to a lot of effort to promote it and the response was just kinda blah.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Having had time to sit on it a good long while I ended up liking Welcome Oblivion more than Hesitation Marks. Neither are all that great but WO has like 3 really good songs to HM's 1.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I was originally going to say 'Ten Miles High' didn't make it for some reason, but I think 'Hello...' is a version of that track. The March is the music from 'Skin of a Drum' off Niggy Tardust.

TOOT BOOT fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jul 1, 2015

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I hope he's not just dumping this stuff on Apple Music because the deluxe version isn't coming out.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Atticus did the soundtrack to Fear The Walking Dead, and honestly it sounds so much like their movie work I really wonder whether he does 90% of the work.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Not really, no one uses usenet anymore for anything but porn and piracy. 20 years ago we'd be all discussing the band on alt.music.nin or getting flamed for discussing the band on rec.music.industrial

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I completely sympathize with this aspect of Trent. He's lazy/would always rather be doing something new than finishing a project he started.
It's annoying as a fan but I've done this poo poo time and time again so I can't even get pissed.

Year Zero 2 :argh:
The Fragile Re-release :argh:

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Anyone know a working direct download mirror for the NIN/JA tour sampler? The original site is down and all the mirrors I could find are also down.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I'm surprised Trent didn't tweet anything about Bowie's death.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

It probably burns Manson's rear end really bad that Trent gets to be on Twin Peaks.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Pirate Jet posted:

Growing up means realizing that a good half of The Downward Spiral is actually terrible but loving it anyways

I don't think half of it is terrible. There are tracks I care for more, and tracks I care for less but all of it is at least well-made.

I think 'Deep' might be the closest NIN have ever come to making a bad song.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I remember Trent saying we'd have new NIN and other things in 2016 but we've gotten neither and the year's almost over.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

magiccarpet posted:

let me tell you about the late 90s

I was there, I guess I've just gotten spoiled by semi-regular NIN releases over the past 10 years.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Volcanic Sunlight definitely wasn't the followup I expected to NiggyTardust. I still hope he and Trent do a followup at some point, even if its just a spiritual sequel.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I don't know whether any of that is enough to actively dislike a person over, but I guess it is disappointing how fast he backpedaled on the whole going it alone thing. We got a lot of neat stuff in that short time period and almost nothing since.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Zack De La Rocha's solo album is finally supposed to come out early next year and Trent did some producing on it which will hopefully be on the final product.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

He's working on a highly secret Christmas album to be released Dec 25th.

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I'm going to be megapissed if its some Apple Music exclusive bullshit. Hopefully Trent has better sense than that even if he is an Apple employee now.

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