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Octy
Apr 1, 2010

I powered through to the end and just finished the show. I'd forgotten that they reworked the Seinfeld finale. Still, it's been an enjoyable two and a half months since I started my rewatch. The second half of season 9 is pretty decent too. 'Audrey Pauley', 'Improbable', 'Scary Monsters', 'Jump the Shark', 'Sunshine Days', maybe even 'Release'. The only memorable episode from the first half for me is 'Lord of the Flies'.

Should I continue on with I Want to Believe? I prefer to see it as non-canonical. A half-decent MotW at best. I feel so embarrassed now that I asked my mum to let me take the day off school when it came out so we could go see it together. I tried for a long time to convince myself and her that it was a good movie. Haven't seen it since.

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Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Charlie Mopps posted:

I've just finished season 8 and it was not as bad as I expected it to be. Not as good as the seasons before it, but still. Doggett is cool, even though he too suffers a bit from denying everything even if it hits him straight in the face. Scully going from 'nope, nothing supernatural exists' straight into 'good god Doggett, how can you not believe its obviously a human-bat that has hold a grudge for the past 50 years?!' felt a bit forced.

I couldnt help but laugh at how obvious the birth of Scully's baby was compared to the birth of Jesus though. But using the Lone Gunmen as the three wise men was pretty funny.

Wait until the second half of season 9 when Doggett is just about a believer. Actually, that whole season is much better than I remembered it.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Doflamingo posted:

Any update on the HD remasters? I've been trying to get into this show for quite some time but can't get past the absolutely terrible video quality. :(

Don't tell me you're one of those people. You shouldn't have any difficulty in ignoring the bad video quality and watching the show for the plotlines and the characters. That is, if you truly want to 'get into this show'.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Jack Gladney posted:

This podcast is really amazing. He gets some very thoughtful guests who are also incredibly funny. And he was recently contacted by Autumn Tysko, a very early internet reviewer who posted really smart reviews that I can remember being one of the first things I read regularly on the internet. She got bored with the show around 1999 and disappeared, and for years afterward people would post about what happened to her or where she went ( she was internet famous from the early days of the show, but just did reviews). It was kind of a thrill to hear from her.

This ancient website has all her reviews http://www.syndicateconsortium.com/sites/autumntysko/

It also has this, which is a little creepy http://www.syndicateconsortium.com/sites/autumntysko/smiles.html

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Jack Gladney posted:

What callback is this? I remember a joke about Tooms in the episode with Tony Shaloub, but that's about it.

Um, he might be referring to the opening of 'Pusher' where we see the Flukeman pictured in a newspaper.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Isn't there something in the media about a revival of the show or a new movie about every other year? I'll get excited when it's something more concrete, not just 'conversations' about doing it.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Exploder posted:

Not anything this substantial, and nothing that was ever been confirmed by FOX or Carter's camp. It looks like they are actually making some progress this time. This is pretty exciting news, but I wouldn't get my hopes up TOO high.

Well, if we can get a Twin Peaks revival there's probably no significant reason why we can't also get another season of the X-Files which was vastly more popular at the time of its run.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

pahuyuth posted:

Agreed, a short season would be fantastic. Didn't Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan work on some of the better X-Files episodes? Thinking about what he could do with the franchise today after his success with BB gets my mind whirling. And now that Amazon has declined to pick up Chris Carter's latest project The After, maybe now is a good time for him to get on the ball.

Oh no, The After was cancelled? I liked that in a terrible way.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

steinrokkan posted:

Good non-mythology episodes are

Je Soulhaite (one of my overall favorites)
The Amazing Maleeni
Theef
Brand X
Holywood AD

'Hungry' ought to be in your list.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Wheat Loaf posted:

Read an article lately observing that Gilligan's said he'd be keen to be involved in a revival of the show if it got off the ground. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I didn't make a note of the website's address. :shobon:

That popped up in my facebook newsfeed a couple days ago, but I also didn't take note of the website's address.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Vintersorg posted:

Jesus that Brady Bunch poo poo was trite. Hmm, you killed 2 mother fuckers. Ah what the hell, not your fault, lets smile at you!!

Ughh, cant wait to finish this season.

Still, X-files owns so hard and is basically perfect up until Doggett (Robert Patrick is still cool but that was some poo poo tier writing for the most part). Release was probably my favorite episode this season.

Hey, I liked the Brady Bunch episode, but maybe that's because it had Linus from Lost in it.

Fun fact, Michael Emerson is now 60 years old. Where did time go?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Timby posted:

And John Neville is dead. :smith:

Yeah we know, he died in a car bomb.

I guess it's too much to expect Vince Gilligan to become involved with this. I expect he's too busy with Better Call Saul.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Season 4. Seasons 5-9 have pretty good episodes, but it's not as consistent.

I feel like re-watching the whole show now.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

There has to be at least some throwaway acknowledgement of the myth arc because the invasion should be in full swing by now. There has to be some explanation for why the colonists cancelled their plans or postponed them.

There's no reason why the new series shouldn't pick up after the second movie, preceding the invasion by as long as four years. Unless there's the possibility of more X-Files after this, I hope they don't take that route.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

bobkatt013 posted:

Yep I am on season 6 right now and taking a break as watching Millennium. As for the stand alones Arcadia is still great.

Same goes for Dreamland, as a semi-myth/stand-alone. I'm glad Michael McKean is getting more work now.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Maybe Gillian Anderson has improved in her directing?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Vancouver?! That makes it worth watching, forget everything else.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

pahuyuth posted:

Awww, it has been so long since I've seen Millennium I forgot about that. I'm rewatching season 1 now and I still love the atmosphere and Frank Black.

I wonder if Krycek's ghost will show up in the new X-Files episodes. Or The Lone Gunmen...

Now I'm just being silly and wishing for stuff that will never happen

Dude got shot in the head. If CSM can be resurrected as many as times as he was, I don't see why Krycek couldn't be.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

steinrokkan posted:

Counterpoint - Deepthroat. Also even if S1 doesn't establish specific mythos "facts", it's still pretty crucial in setting up the themes and stakes, probably more so than any other season. If you skipped to the second half of S2 you would even miss the Duanne Barry two-parter.

Plus you miss out on Jerry Hardin if you skip season 1 (barring certain reapperances later on).

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

PrincessKate posted:

This would be ideal. Retcon back to before the Syndicate is destroyed.

Retcon back to before the Well-Manicured Man was killed.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Slate Action posted:

CSM faked his own death so that he could retire and focus on his writing career.

I wonder what his pen name would be?

Raul Bloodworth.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

January 24 was just announced as the premiere date. http://www.fox.com/article/fox-announces-new-primetime-series-for-2015-2016-season

quote:

THRILLING EVENT SERIES “THE X-FILES” BEGINS
FOLLOWING NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME SUNDAY, JANUARY 24

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Ignis posted:

I'm ambivalent towards McHale, but


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :ohdear:

I dunno, he's not exactly Vince Gilligan but he did write a few good early episodes like The Host, Irresistible and Duane Barry. Everything he wrote after that is pretty forgettable.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Al Nipper posted:

I kind of want to watch the original series again, but even watching back then I gave up after production moved to LA.

Is there any list of episodes worth seeing/skipping online? I'm not sitting through loving FPS again.

I suppose I can just look through summaries of the first 5 seasons or so and will recall the good ones. Are any of the post-Mulder episodes good though? (I know he comes back in the end, tuned in for that and saw a bunch of alien terminator supermen and other random bullshit.)

Well, I'm sure there'll be a bit of controversy but for post-Mulder episodes, I like Roadrunners, Redrum, Salvage, Medusa, Lord of the Flies, Sunshine Day... That's about it.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Exploder posted:

Whoa, I never realized that was Mark Pellegrino in that episode. Well, I'm going to have to watch "Hungry" again. The X-Files is a great show to watch if you want to become really good at playing six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

He was the bully?! And I say this as someone who very recently watched the episode alongside a re-watch of Lost. I'm terrible at making connections apparently.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Jose posted:

You made me google it and I found this

http://lostfiles.tumblr.com/

Doug Hutchison played Horace? I'll never look at the character the same way again. :(

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Yeah, but if Pendrell had survived to find out Mulder and Scully were boning each other he'd have turned into their bitterest enemy.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Zwabu posted:

I'm trying to imagine what the X-Files might have been like if it had arisen in the modern era of high production value, no holds barred cable TV.

But then again, what we got was pretty drat awesome, so who knows.

Probably half the episodes per season and none of the MotW ones that made the show so great, instead focusing on the mytharc. Maybe there would have been more direction in the main story, but it's hard to imagine the show without Mulder and Scully investigating weird cases on the side.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Interesting article about the new conspiracies in the show. This is the link http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/11/x-files-revival-conspiracy

quote:

“We live in a CitizenFour world now,” says creator Chris Carter, referring to the documentary on NSA leaker Edward Snowden. “We’ve given up certain rights and freedoms because we want the government to protect us after 9/11. We see the admitted spying by the government. These are not things we’re making up and it informs everything Mulder and Scully and doing are doing.”

Carter describes himself as a “mostly interested observer” in the conspiracy world, and notes he researched the new show by combing through conspiracy websites and attending a conspiracy convention.

“I’ve kept my finger to the wind and trying to figure out what’s relevant and possible credible,” Carter says. “People know the show deals with science and fact and also deals with far-flung theories about not only the supernatural but government conspiracies. It throws out as many questions as it does answers. And I have to say what it’s done for me and the writers it has given us a whole new open field which to run. It’s given the show an interesting new life and context that it might not have had in 2002.”

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

I am a bit worried about the reviews coming in.

quote:

In messy, tedious form, the revered sci-fi series starring David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson limps back for a limited run on Fox.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/x-files-tv-review-854844

quote:

Throughout the premiere, it’s simply hard to escape the prevailing malaise of this being a deal-driven exercise, a chance to cash in on the name recognition of the title in a format that mitigated the time commitment for all concerned, particularly Duchovny and Anderson.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/x-files-review-revival-david-duchovny-gillian-anderson-1201675982/

I remember trying my best to like I Want to Believe when it first came out and slowly, begrudgingly accepting its ordinariness. Then again, it is just the premiere. The MotW eps might be better.

Octy fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jan 13, 2016

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Chairman Capone posted:

After that point, I like: En Ami (15), Brand X (18), Hollywood A.D. (19, and one of my favorites of the entire series), Je Souhaite (21), and Requiem (22, which really would have been an ideal place to just end the series, or at least the alien mytharc).

But really after those there's nothing you absolutely need to watch in the last two seasons. Except maybe the episode where Aaron Paul is a high school Jackass-copycat.

Surely, Sunshine Days should be in this list as about the only good thing that came out of Season 9?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010


Man, CSM must have some great plastic surgeons working for him.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

This second episode was a vast improvement over the first, but the editing was weird and abrupt, especially towards the end when Mulder and Scully go from being in the hospital to standing outside behind a line of red tape, and little more is said about the mutant kids.

mr. unhsib posted:

I want to do an X-Files re-watch but I really don't want to go through every episode. Is there a "mandatory episodes guide" or something people would recommend? I see a few for select seasons in this thread but I'm looking for something more comprehensive. Thanks.

I'm doing my own re-watch, having just started on season 1. Someone posted a few pages back a mandatory list that ran something like 'Pilot, Deep Throat, Squeeze, Ice, Fallen Angel, Eve' and so forth. That was pretty much my plan, and I guess for the later seasons I'll watch the mytharc as well as episodes I remember fondly. I doubt I'll go in for seasons 8 and 9, though. There's little there worth watching again.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

I think its three right? Two different characters during the first few seasons of the show and then that role in the movie where he lets the bomb go off.

Doesn't he come back in the last couple seasons in connection with the super soldiers or something?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

bobkatt013 posted:

I can think of one that was just a remake of The Thing

'Ice'. Still holds up well for a season one episode.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

MariusLecter posted:

Mulder jokes about his tiny dick. The best ep ever.

Ah, but there's a season two episode where we see Mulder in his speedos and he's not too badly off. Guy is just modest.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

OldSenileGuy posted:

Unless I totally hate them (that new guy looks iffy), I'd be totally ok with a 12-episode season 11 that DD and GA are only in 8 episodes of.

So, pretty much a rehash of season 9 is what you want?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

The MSJ posted:

A good time to be reminded that Mulder loves himself some porn.

Among other things...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJyC0mnlu8o&t=76s

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

How many episodes did not involve paranormal stuff at all? I know there was the one with the serial killer who fixated on women's hair, and there were a couple with lone gunmen or just mulder that were more just general government conspiracy. Also you can stretch the definition farther and say stuff like "Jersey Devil" counts because technically it is a somewhat believable idea that doesn't require anything outside our understanding of science.

That first episode you mentioned about women's hair ended up being explicitly about the supernatural when he came back for a sequel.

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Octy
Apr 1, 2010

hope and vaseline posted:

Oh goddammit I didn't realize he penned the last 2.

But as someone else pointed out, Carter is capable of good writing. The Duane Barry episodes are among my favourites.

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