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Kind of late to this, but I like how the flavor behind In Garruk's Wake seems to basically just be "Garruk came over and murdered -everything- you cared about." Specifically Garruk with his axe cutting through a bunch of heroes and monsters and gods and planeswalkers, just to clear a path.
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Zorak posted:The Chain Veil or his hat. One of those two things. Is Garruk's helmet a card? I think his axe is...
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Jun 26, 2014 03:46
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Everblight posted:Because of Hana Kami and Sensei's Divining Top, there are games of Kamigawa Block Constructed that still have not ended (they went to 5 turns during the tournament in 2004) I understand sensei, but what does Hana Kami do that makes games last forever?
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Jun 27, 2014 01:07
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Bugsy posted:I was going to say half of Momentous fall isn't bad for half the cost, but then I read it was a sorcery. It is the better half of momentous fall though... You can't generate value off a doomed creature, but this is kind of 2 mana draw 3, which is nice?
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Jun 27, 2014 03:36
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Count Bleck posted:His role as Guildpact is kind of hard to demonstrate in a planeswalker that only specializes in one color. I refuse to believe Jace can be interesting.
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Jun 27, 2014 23:39
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Zorak posted:
This makes me realize how much I want an artifact instant or sorcery... Also, did convoke originally say "Your creatures can help cast those spells"? That sounds kind of silly and cute to me. Izzet artifact deck with gablins tinkering on a giant robot.
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Jun 28, 2014 01:41
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How does the new wording on convoke work with sunburst creatures? Is it "not at all" because mana isn't spent, or is the convoked mana "used" for the casting?
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Jun 28, 2014 15:29
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OH! another thing, do multiple instance of convoke stack or would it be that, since you can only pay the cost (tapping a creature) once, you couldn't benefit from it? I wasn't around for old rav (I vanished between old mirrodin and innistrad) so convoke is kinda new to me.
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Jun 28, 2014 15:55
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Something like... 2BGG 4 loyalty +1 Destroy target creature you control and target creature you don't control. (Fighting "to the death!") 0 Garruk [~] deals damage equal to his loyalty to target creature or planeswalker. (Garruk just chopping people and creatures down) -6 Garruk [~] deals damage equal to his loyalty to all creatures and planeswalkers you don't control. (Usually the same as his sweeper, but interrupt-able, and also possibly repeatable, though not likely) Not sure how loyalty works with regards to resolutions there, but it could be -X and deals X damage, but that has the negative side effect of making him a 5 mana flamewave.
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Jun 28, 2014 22:42
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Woapalanne posted:Northjawhatk: LotDR isn't really Liliana, either. :/ Liliana's a necromancer, not a swampologist. I think Liliana is more about POWER! than necromancy, and more swamps means more mana means stronger and bigger spells? That's how I'd rationalize it anyway.
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Jun 29, 2014 20:13
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GonSmithe posted:Wow, I seriously didn't realize at all there were 45 Planeswalkers currently printed. Just had a huge nostalgia trip to before Lorwyn was coming out when the first image they released of Liliana with her head popping out from the frame and every idiot on MTGS saying that it could never be a new card type and Tarmogoyf was just kidding. How long was it until people put together the anagram of her name? Was in explained by the developer in the revealing media?
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Jun 29, 2014 22:30
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Kraus posted:I'm studying for my L1 currently, and while reading through the IPG, I came to the section on improper randomization. For 40, 4. For 60, 5. Not 200, 240 since I assume you mean battle of wits? Make 4 stacks of 60 and riffle them, then mix them around. do each one internally twice then cross them over twice between each set (assuming a net, that would be 10 riffles) For edh you want to do it 8 times. That said, by riffle do you mean "sort of just pushing them together" or bridge shuffling them, or is riffling where you solitaire them out randomly? Not sure what that word means... My estimates go off a bridge shuffle since I don't value any of my cards since they are all worthless.
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Jun 30, 2014 02:58
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Kraus posted:Yeah, I did mean 240 or 250 for Battle of Wits. The wincon number popped into my head first. Do you have the math for this? Could you PM it to me? Sorry, there's no math. I based it on how many times I have to shuffle a deck before a test hand looks different than the "1st" hand, that is, at least 6 of the first 10 cards drawn are different. This is of course not scientific at all and is very biased.
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Jun 30, 2014 03:36
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So I figured that Avacyn and Ob Nix are from Innistrad and Zendikar respectively. I think Yisan is from Shandalar because...big insects? and Jalira looks like she's from Ravnica because she has a chair. Wouldn't that mean the Red Legend would be from Theros, or am I assuming wrong there?
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Jul 1, 2014 02:28
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Did a count, retroactively with the help of mythic spoiler, of planes that feature art of characters sitting down on things meant to be sat down on (i.e. lounging on the side of a rock or cliff doesn't count.) Theros: 2 Ravnica: (new) 9 Mostly Orzhov. Clearly, chairs are exceedingly expensive. Innistrad: 2 (surprised me, thought there would be more smug vampires/demons) Mirrodin: (new) 1 Zendikar: 0 Alara: Maybe 1? The chairs are so heavily implied in Architects of Will... Lorwyn/Shadowmoor: 0 Despite an impressive number of seated characters, they all opted for a natural item (stumps or rocks) Ravnica (Old): 4 Kamigawa: 1 And I am too tired to go further back and look through more cards... Incidentally, I am not sure which set Shandalar was supposed to be the setting of?
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Jul 1, 2014 03:49
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Spiderdrake posted:Banding was removed because its a niche ability of nearly zero relevance in constructed with a bunch of oddness like how it interacts with shadow or unblockable creatures. It is just too complex for too little, not that it isn't easy enough to explain compared to other parts of magic. I think it's something like "banded creatures are like one creature, and let the attacker choose how all damage is assigned"?
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Jul 1, 2014 22:06
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Okay so... T1 Mana dork T2 two creatures, mana dorks optional T3 Xenagos + Satyr T4 Xenagos mana to play chain veil, Hard cast Ral zarek T5, Satyr + Chain Veil + Ral Zarek on the veil and an opponent's permanent, Xenagos mana ramp for 5, chain veil. Repeat until you have infintie-ish mana and all of your opponent's permanents are tapped down. Xenagos and Ral zarek have infinte Loyalty, you have infinte mana and infinte turns, which you don't need because Ral zarek has infinte lightning bolts. Is a thing that could happen with RUG? Are there any good RUG legendary creatures to use as EDH generals?
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Jul 2, 2014 22:24
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Zoness posted:Assuming that you do all this in the same turn, your number of turns from Ral Zarek are actually bounded since you only get one extra (with which you would use another +1) Ral activation every time you +1 with him. It's even possible to get 0 extra turns. Edit: Nevermind, I get it. Infinite 2/2s with haste when your opponent has no mana works though. Gensuki fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 22:32
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I am a flavor nerd, and just found out each of the legends from the commander 2013 run has a little bio in the info pamphlet that comes with the decks. I don't want to spend $90 on the white, red, and green centered decks, but I was wondering if there was a place I could read the blurbs on-line? Also, are the red and green ones bad? They're the only ones I can still find anywhere... Marath and Prossh seemed pretty cool, Prossh especially since he can win in 3 swings?
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Jul 2, 2014 22:59
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Thank you!
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Jul 2, 2014 23:09
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En Fuego posted:I just confirmed with Matt Tabak via Twitter that Nissa + Ral Zarek + Chain Veil is infinite. Of course this means that we need to goon construct the bestest RUG deck ever to durdle with! So is new Nissa better for that than Xenagos, or is it just that her mana is more reliable?
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Jul 2, 2014 23:10
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The Thallid Bar for Fun Guys (and gals) is my favorite.
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Jul 4, 2014 01:07
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Toshimo posted:Nameless Race has the best creature type IMO. That's also a surprisingly playable creature for something non-modern.
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Jul 4, 2014 02:46
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Spiderdrake posted:He probably skipped the white card clause, yeah? YUP! Wow, nevermind. 4 mana and X life for an X/X with no evasion or protection is pretty reasonable... I guess as a side board, it can reasonably be expected to be a 4 mana 6/6 that hits you for 6? This seems like Black's version of Wood Elemental... I want a cycle of bad cards with steep, silly costs for X/X creatures
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Jul 4, 2014 03:58
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Ultima66 posted:Plains aren't white permanents. It counts cards in the graveyard too. One or two instants in the yard, along with 2 creatures on board make this a hill giant with downside, that is literally only playable if your opponent is in white, and only worth it if they are monowhite. Competing with Wood Elemental by virtue of having a use (miracle situation, he turns your life advantage into a 10/10 trampler) but relying on your opponent to do a specific thing (be monowhite) instead of letting you try to make a deck that works with it. (...dredge?) Unless there is a way to make creatures/ cards in the graveyard white? I mean, Mycosynth Lattice exists?
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Jul 4, 2014 04:54
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Zorak posted:
Is this better or worse than Sudden Spoiling?
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Jul 4, 2014 05:17
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Lol, what is this? I feel like I'm back in Ice Age. Ah yes, this is the large trampling creature blue deserves. A bad one.
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Jul 4, 2014 05:57
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Sleepy Owl posted:I found a similar one a while ago I don't like Garruk here... he seems kind of small? Isn't Garruk bigger than Ajani?
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Jul 4, 2014 18:51
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Kasonic posted:How can a thing look like a cosplayer if it only looks like itself ??? For example, Garruk looks like a cosplayer. Garruk is 8'2" and 480 pounds. That guy at the table is a 15 year old wearing his weird uncle's bear rug on his shoulders. I think Jace looks fine, but I thought Chandra's hair is only supposed to be fiery when she's doing crazy pyromancer stuff? It makes it seem like a wig which supports Cosplayer.
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Jul 4, 2014 22:19
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Garruk's stupid huge: 7'10 and 450 lbs. Ajani is just a sizeable, overmuscled human at 6'6 and 250 lbs. ...I think you have those mixed up, also I checked his DotP bio thing and Garruk is listed at 8'2". Ajani is not in the game like that though... EDIT: oh, wait, the Ajani numbers are right and ajani is in the game like that. It's just calling ajani human threw me off... Gensuki fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Jul 4, 2014 22:52
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Sleep of Bronze posted:D14 - latest information - gives my numbers for them both. Ah, I was going by 2013. I guess Garruk shrunk down a bit between games? That still makes the picture weird... Tiny Garruk.
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Jul 5, 2014 05:53
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Illusory Ooze 2UG 2/5 When Illusory Ooze becomes the target of a spell or ability, sacrifice it. If this card would leave the battlefield by another effect, return it to the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter. Would that work?
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Jul 6, 2014 16:40
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jassi007 posted:They hate protection and would not have it work as is, if things were different. I doubt they ever intend to keyword an ability as complex or more complex as protection again. Protection doesn't feel that complex though. It's just Damage, Enchanted/Equipped, Blocked and Targeted right? Or is there something else there? Indestructible seems harder to understand to me...
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Jul 6, 2014 17:18
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Stinky Pit posted:Magic's core audience isn't anyone posting in this thread and they struggle with things like Trample and First Strike. ...Core audience? This isn't really pokemon though. I'd think the "core audience" would catch on to any of the keywords pretty quickly?
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Jul 6, 2014 17:36
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Ramos posted:On the anti-sweeper clause, the easiest way I can see it happening in a game with rules as they are currently written is: The two big ones to get around are All is Dust and Final Judgement which call for Sacrifice or exile. There are no creatures to hose exile, and very few (I can think of one?) that guards against sacrifice. Gensuki fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Jul 6, 2014 18:53
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Bonus posted:Ummm Supreme Verdict + Stifle??? ...Is that an idea to kill Norin the wary? Because it doesn't kill Norin the wary is the thing. Norin is cool like that. He does die to On board wraths/pingers like Neyvinraal's disk or prodigal pyromancer.
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Jul 6, 2014 23:27
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Olothreutes posted:These die to any sort of instant speed wrath. Rout, fated retribution, and probably more that I'm forgetting. Worldfire is a good wrath. Play red green ramp. Put down and guard Thragtusk, then cast worldfire.
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Jul 6, 2014 23:59
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homerlaw posted:Please stop trying to design such a bad card. I don't think a card that can dodge sweepers is a bad card. There is already a counter to basically everything else in the game, why should sweepers be sacred?
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Jul 7, 2014 02:13
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Is Batterskull really a good card? I mean, Legacy is the format where basically everything is legal right? It just seems weird that a 5 mana 4/4 would see much play. (I know its appeal is also the vigilance/lifelink and not actually being a creature, but still?) Or is it just that It is one of the better equipments to tutor with a Stoneforge mystic?
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Entropic posted:
Also consider Birds of Paradise? Boxman posted:I believe there is a 13 year old at the semi finals of this SCG open. One is a replacement effect, and the other stops an effect? So I think that if there's a card that says "whenever you gain life, you gain a poison counter" then sulfuric vortex would give you delicious poison, and Skullcrack would stop it?
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