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To be fair, Rumiko Takahashi created a lot of the staples of romcom manga in the first place, especially harem manga, so it's not too surprising to discover that there's always elements that imitate her in a lot of series. As everyone's noted, Nisekoi's striking point is it basically hits every genre cliche with barely any fanservice. The locket storyline is nothing original either, since Love Hina worked with a similar premise, and every character basically hits some standard archetype. The only thing that surprises me is that the two main heroines have each received enough focus now that I'm unsure which one would be picked even though my initial guess would have been Kirisaki obviously, though it probably doesn't matter in the end anyways.
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Love Hina is better because it copies Maisson Ikkoku, while Nisekoi only copies To-Love-Ru which copies Urusei Yatsura. The former builds towards its ending with character growth and plot development, while the latter just meanders about usually maintaining the status quo till an ending happens. I like the former more just because there is a sense of time and progression, while with the latter, the only change that's likely to have happened is the number of characters. Course, there's nothing wrong with comedic slice of life with romance elements, as long as you know that it'll probably run for a long time till either the author gets tired of it or it gets canceled.
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Mar 15, 2014 03:55
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Sonata Mused posted:I think authors are pretty afraid of having the protag choose someone. I remember there being a giant poo poo storm over Ichigo 100% back in the day. Ichigo 100% also did the practically never done thing of the protag choosing someone who's not the designated main heroine, which a lot of people were not happy about. I thought it was a good story choice personally, though the execution leading up to it was a bit contrived. Nisekoi probably won't do that though and Chitoge/Onedera/status quo is the most likely result unfortunately.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:54
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I don't think anyone reads Nisekoi for the plot anyways, so silly filler is always good.
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May 16, 2014 08:59
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Finding out that the editor of Nisekoi was also the editor of Gintama explains a lot. Also Marika is his favorite character.
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May 17, 2014 06:02
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It would not be too surprising considering his editor also oversees Gintama.
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pentyne posted:Doesn't every harem series always have the MC be focused on a docile, kind of quiet semi-subservient traditional Japanese girl while the other options are mixed Japanese, aggressive, or really quirky in some way? Kind of, though you can probably blame that on visual novels constantly having the boring childhood friend as the "main" heroine which ended up influencing manga and anime over time. The genre itself kind of didn't do that initially considering Urusei Yatsura and Ramna 1/2 were arguably the original harem series, and obviously those two series had very proactive heroines, and you can see their influence on stuff like Tenchi Muyo, Love Hina, and Truthism.
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Oct 25, 2014 12:55
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Pretty sure idealized housewives (yamato nadeshiko) have always been the preference. Tsunderes popped up to basically go against that cliche and ended up becoming a cliche themselves.
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Dec 8, 2014 09:21
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It was just a very by-the-numbers chapter that you see elsewhere a lot. Hopefully Marika chapter should be fun though.
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Dec 29, 2014 05:51
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She's the editor's favorite heroine. I'm sure he just sends it back whenever he gets sent a mediocre Marika chapter.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:36
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Skychrono posted:I meant love hina, but I'm way overstating how much fighting was in the second half (with the Monkey King play, cursed sword, and fighting with the archeology guy). But negima morphs way faster, true. To be fair, Nisekoi already has the elements in place if it really wanted to do battle sequences with Tsugumi existing, and we even had that one chapter where she was sneaking into that party with Raku. I doubt it ever will since Nisekoi seems set on staying fairly grounded despite all the mafia in the background. Love Hina just loved to embrace its insanity more as time went on that it developed into the Negima universe. Random sidenote, I just realized that Keitaro was practically the first immortal considering how often they joked about it, and tried to abuse that trait in the second half of the series.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:08
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A lot of good faces this chapter though.
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Feb 6, 2015 20:22
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Oh hey, more plot progression. He can finally progress to the stage where he can't make up his mind and delay choosing now.
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Feb 13, 2015 05:31
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Hey, it could always transition to insane mafia adventures to protect Chitoge and their ordinary school life that'll finally show off what he was planning with Double Arts, sort of like how Love Hina transitioned into insane demon sword, mecha-turtle, archaeological adventures that evolved into Negima. It won't happen, but one can always dream. 
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Yeah, basically, though limited down enough where you could arguably call it a spiritual successor arc for Double Arts. Now what'd actually be plot progression is she actually goes to America, and then Raku goes there to bring her back, though that's also a pretty cliche set-up. It still leaves an opening for the status quo to stay unchanged though, but it at least gets him to do something assertive for once.
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Feb 13, 2015 07:09
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Nisekoi's ranking is the same as it's always been, being on the lower end of the spectrum, but not low enough to be axed. It's latest volume was the 2nd best selling volume last week as well so I think it's still doing well sales-wise. I haven't been following sales as closely, so don't take my word completely on that. I assume Nisekoi is doing the same thing To love Ru did of never having a particularly high rank, but doing well enough in sales that it sticks around.
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That last one has always lead to the worst arcs whenever it pops up I want to say. Can't even recall specifically which manga it pops up in, other than it's a cliche storyline I don't care to see that often. But yeah, off the top of my head, I see Love Hina, Ranma 1/2, and To-Love-Ru or Urusei Yatsura in there. EDIT: Are they even in their 3rd year yet? There was at least one summer vacation so they did move up a grade. Allarion fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 07:43
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New chapter. We are edging ever closer to that harem-lord prediction.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:16
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It's a harem manga, so its progression by general standards has always been two steps forward and one step back, if it's not just being general hyjinx usually focused around one of the haremettes. There's been very slight plot progression for the last few chapters though, at least in terms of character development but otherwise it's been your usual harem antics. On the latest chapter, I actually forgot about completely about the plot for that book since it's been ages since we heard about it. The only thing I remember was that Chitoge didn't know the ending for it.
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Mar 22, 2015 08:45
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Marika being the best will always make me smile. As for the chapter, there's still a few pages missing and he probably made the promise with all of them at this rate. We should go back to filler chapters. Onedera chapters are lame.
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Mar 28, 2015 18:02
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Well that's another cliche to check off the list. Somehow forgot about those legendary love locations that Japan has everywhere.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:03
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The key and pendant got accidentally knocked into the disposal box. Your usual plot complication.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:12
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BlitzBlast posted:Alright author, the ball is in your court. How are you going to shove this under the rug? Very easily. No one should be surprised The good news is Marika next chapter hopefully.
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Apr 25, 2015 03:18
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Unlike all the plot/locket fakeouts, I really want Marika's illness to be a constant fakeout. Raku's dad being completely ok with the police kidnapping his son is pretty great though.
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May 10, 2015 02:02
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New chapter!
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May 16, 2015 03:05
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New chapter! I'm starting to think it's not gonna be a plot fakeout, at least for Marika anyways.
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May 24, 2015 22:25
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New chapter!
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May 31, 2015 09:45
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MrAptronym posted:I found this a few days ago going through this thread. It is amazing, and after reading all of it (at a bit of a slower pace), I still really enjoy it. The principle is the greatest. As for Nisekoi, well I have been stuck at a computer a lot lately but without too much to consistently do. I decided to pick it up to kill time. At some point I just pressed on out of spite and because I wouldn't ever catch up otherwise. Everyone's totally getting drunk next chapter.
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May 31, 2015 16:23
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Nothing... Nothing at all. 
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jackofarcades posted:Fuuka kills off the titular character, who is also the daughter of the main couple from the prequel. Then it introduces another love interest with the same name. Please do not endorse Seo Kouji's manga.
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Aug 3, 2015 05:32
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Raku, become the Yakuza boss you were always destined to be already!
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Aug 23, 2015 07:15
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I see we actually are transitioning to battle manga, at least for this arc anyways.
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Sep 5, 2015 07:00
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Finally Komi can use the battle experience he gained from doing Double Arts. Wasn't Tsugumi basically gonna be the swordswoman he was planning on introducing before it got canceled? I vaguely recall him showing off a sketch of that character at the end of double arts.
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ConanThe3rd posted:I'm being dumb, who was the other bad parent? Erina's dad in Shokugeki.
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Sep 20, 2015 18:06
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For just a moment, it was the closest to seeing Double Arts again.
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Oct 23, 2015 03:33
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Shinjobi posted:I didn't hate her at all, but I'm glad her story has been resolved. Let's wrap this poo poo up; time for a last second sweve and victory for Onodera's sister. I'm still guessing some non-choosing ending where he rewrote the ending of the picture book to make all the girls happy.
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Nov 15, 2015 23:21
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Lmao at that last page of the latest chapter.
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Dec 8, 2015 02:44
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He still has to find the rest of that picture book though, which he probably changed the ending to a harem end.
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SpacePig posted:So will the true resolution be this quick, or are we in for another 30 chapters of back-and-forth coming up? It'll have to tie up the picture book and the locket, so there'll be some kind of stuff going on I'm sure.
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