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mystes posted:A lot of chromebooks don't have battery backup for the RTCs so it can be hard to stay in the right decade every time the battery dies, disco's back baby
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 19:23 |
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eschaton posted:unless you’re also using controller-implemented (“hardware”) raid that kinda reminds me, does an implementation found in uefi count as hardware or software raid? i know the option is there in some machines because they use separate controllers, but i guess intel also has some weirdo implementation that even shows up on one of my laptops (though being from aliexpress it does apparently have a "debug" bios with a lot of different options that just don't work on the machine). it's not like i could really use it anyway since there's only one msata slot (not even nvme/m.2), i'm just curious if that kind of thing uses a separate controller i know that a lot of them are just hardware integrated into the mobo, e.g. the one on my desktop mobo since it requires drivers, but it's not made by intel (some gigabyte braded GRAID thing that is afaict a rebranded jmicron deal)
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 16:12 |
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Antigravitas posted:Someone would probably get volunteered if that thing had any users. But an fs without users is a great candidate for killing, because nobody will notice it gone. i don't really understand how iscsi works at all, but i'd like to since even windows supports it and so does my consumer-grade router, lol, and i'd like to disconnect the external nvme ssd i have it using atm since that regularly gets third-degree burn hot despite having a thermal pad and heatsink in the enclosure
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 16:17 |
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Truga posted:on a desktop pc, it's certainly a software raid unless you separately bought an expensive raid controller. there's a "raid controller" on the motherboard that can handle your drives, but it uses the cpu to crunch poo poo, there's no dedicated hardware for it that all makes sense. so what's the deal with the GRAID thing i have on my gigabyte mobo? i know what you're talking about re: addon cards having separate loading screens, they've done that forever — but if i enable that option, it does have something similar. it comes after the uefi environment loads though, so maybe it uses some program to load the firmware from the chip or something? idk like i said i think it's some rebranded jmicron thing, but since it's in storage i can't tell you what specific model
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 22:01 |
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Athas posted:I never understood that response. he's calling him a huge nerd sb hermit posted:that description of the sparc linux optimization under Linux is really fascinating, to be honest it is, and it's well written, it's just an extremely nerdy thing to be interested in
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 03:39 |
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like, if they were in college then yeah maybe 20s, maybe late teens. you don't remember trolling message boards or usenet (depending on your age group) at that age? i sure as poo poo do lol an appropriate response would have been like, "why, do you want to know what it's like?" or something idk. shame if it just dropped, that's not what usenet was for
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 03:41 |
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ryanrs posted:but now with a ton of baggage, linux is still faster, yeah? than sunOS? considering the hardware that supports, probably
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 19:42 |
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Athas posted:They were both kernel programmers, so they were both nerds. One of them was just better at his job. yeah, but it's a personal dig. presumably cantrill was trolling, but eschaton posted:I have it on good authority that Cantrill is pretty lovely and that response is just the tip of the iceberg apparently some people just don't grow
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 19:43 |
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FlapYoJacks posted:Nah, it’s because running j1 makes the logs easier to parse as everything is sequential. that and running -j7 would probably start/continue building something unrelated too. i've always found openwrt's -j1 V=s thing needs suiting, they haven't changed that message much in like 20 years for a reason lol
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 01:36 |
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ryanrs posted:Dear Sir, I am writing to you from the non-shitposting(?) linux thread in the OS poo poo-posting subforum of the dead comedy website SomethingAwful.com. I would like to touch your source code. To Whom It May Concern, Greetings from the Linux non-shitposting thread in the OS shitposting forum of the dead and buried comedy site Something Awful. I see you have almost finished your ISL28022 driver, [borat voice] very nice! However, it is not finished, which is not so nice. I will finish it for you [broat voice] i like! P.S. I will credit you Sincerely, ryanrs
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 00:16 |
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ryanrs posted:The next big question is do I take this ISL28022 driver in progress and finish it off, and try to get it merged into hwmon? This would go into the mainline Linux kernel, not just OpenWrt. actually looks like a few people worked on it (unless those are reviewers?). i wouldn't worry about it, just credit where due e: ah yeah they are reviews. idk. just email the guy and ask, i mean, it is a mailing list lol e2: lol it looks like he made his personal site in openoffice or something Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 1, 2024 |
# ¿ May 1, 2024 00:18 |
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ryanrs posted:Are you describing the deprecated sysfs gpio api? I think the current design uses a shitload of character device ioctls and a userspace library to hide the gross inner workings. does the default busybox support e.g. quote:GPIO_POE=$((GPIO_BASE+34)) ? if yes then i probably won't need to do a compile, thats the kind of thing i was talking about in the other thread
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 16:23 |
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ryanrs posted:Yes, busybox supports $(()) arithmetic. what about double-bracketed tests with variable replacement? iirc that was the primary reason i wanted a custom busybox, and while it does support that kind of thing it at least used to require editing the config header/a custom build i'd suppose if it supports double parenthetical arithmetic then it probably does
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 17:28 |
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ryanrs posted:Like this? it seems like that'd be fine, but ehh now that i'm not in a moving car i can elaborate better lol at the time (~10 years ago lol) i was using those kinds of constructs for ffmpeg workflows, i doubt i'll be doing that much now but i might, idk. so this is just an off the top of my head example of something i might try: code:
but i literally just banged this out here, so there might be a missing fi statement or something, idk, i didn't check it obviously. it's just an example. i intentionally mixed "-eq" and "=" operators, mixed "[[" and "[" constructs — usually when i'm doing something like this i just go for functionality over form — but that does trip up some interpreters sometimes (especially dash, which simply doesn't have double bracket constructs anyway) sometimes i need to do arithmetic within them, sometimes i don't, etc., so when i was compiling openwrt and busybox i just threw in the kitchen sink. back then it supported all of that, it just needed to be enabled at compile time (which it didn't do by default) also somewhat relatedly, i usually try to avoid "[" constructs on a real machine since that usually calls the "[" binary, whereas "[[" constructs use a builtin but since we're talking about busybox here, it's all the same binary — other than the extended functionality afforded by double bracket constructs i suppose there's no benefit to using one over the other anyway. right? e: readability Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 2, 2024 |
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ryanrs posted:root@OpenWrt:~# opkg install bash lmao good point
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 19:35 |
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ryanrs posted:You will still be using busybox utils like cat and grep unless you also install coreutils and maybe some other packages. But a cursory test shows the busybox symlink commands work just fine from bash. yeah, they usually do i still wonder if there's any benefit to using "[" vs. "[[" if you're only using busybox though. seems to me since they're both technically builtins there'd be no performance advantage to using either over the other, but since double brackets also have extended functionality idk why you'd ever use singles, other than maybe compatibility reasons?
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 19:51 |
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speaking of busybox, does anyone use toybox? it's what google uses in android instead of busybox, because they know the busybox people are serious about the GPL lol i'd guess a lot of it is just BSD/AOSP-licensed busybox equivalents, but maybe it does some things better by dint of being newer? idk. the only exposure i have to it is using it in pretty drat old versions of android (7-10), and once you root those they usually install busybox for you lol. even termux comes with busybox iirc e: hmm latest release is from 2023, although it seems to be kinda actively developed Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 2, 2024 |
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Poopernickel posted:I use Busybox still, and don't have any plans to change in my designs. Busybox is GPL2, so it's not really a big deal to include in a product IMO. I have to make sources available for it (along with any modifications that I made to Busybox) on request, but that's not really a big deal. I don't have to give my entire product source-code, or my signing-keys, or anything like that. i spent an hour or two trying to get toybox to compile with WASI (using a-shell on my ipad, you can compile and execute WASM) and couldn't lol. but i was able to get a few of the applets to compile with the ios sdk, using llc to compile to bytecode and then lli to interpret anyway yeah there definitely aren't as many features or applets, or features within applets. even printf is barebones compared to busybox but i wasn't able to get it all to compile, and since i had to do it manually per applet i just didn't do more than 2 lol. it does seem like some of them are actually more fully featured than their busybox counterparts, but only a few, mostly ones that you'd expect android oems might want (dd, tar, etc.). since you do embedded work it might be worth a look-see e: just to clarify, as you might've inferred you can compile each applet as a standalone application Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 4, 2024 |
# ¿ May 4, 2024 02:28 |
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oh toybox has a status page (updated april 8), maddeningly though if you click on any of the commands it just links you to a sometimes nonexistent man page though i guess if the goal is to make mostly identical implementations then that's kinda cool the roadmap and faq are kinda interesting too
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 03:33 |
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60 seconds apart? it sounds like it didn't get anywhere near close to initializing enough to do this but, uh, they're not bluetooth beacons, are they?
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 18:00 |
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ryanrs posted:Could be? It's the built-in bluetooth module in an Aruba 'enterprise' wifi access point. So whatever their enterprise customers use bluetooth for, I guess. i honestly don't know. it's possible i guess. if the chip isn't even communicating with the system then i'd think it's really unlikely, but it could be a host advertisement beacon
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 18:10 |
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ryanrs posted:BTW, these bytes aren't being sent over the air (I hope). They're coming in on the Host Controller Interface (HCI). I think it's trying to handshake, then getting mad about being snubbed. yeah, i thought maybe it could just be regurgitating what it's trying to send over the air, but idk probably not. just throwing out suggestions i agree it does seem more like it's trying to boot, not receiving whatever it's looking for and looping because of that, though. but i'm pretty sure you and sb have more knowledge about debugging this kind of thing than i do lol
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 18:18 |
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sb hermit posted:tbh, I think it would be cool to control an access point over bluetooth if you somehow can’t get to it over ethernet and need to reset it or something and you’d otherwise have to bust out a ladder to get to it you probably can? there's BNEP (ethernet emulation), if it had a bridge to the rest of the interfaces you should be able to, in theory anyway but tbh i've never even thought about adding bluetooth to a router. i suppose it'd be pretty easy with one of those little usb bt adapters though, maybe i can give it a try when i get openwrt going
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gnome is loving terrible
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 07:57 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:though tbh among things apple did that i hoped would spread and stick (but instead didn't stick even at apple) was to go "ok, we can do higher resolutions, what do we do? let's go strictly for the next integer up, same dimensions" everything could be vectors at this point. we have the technology almost all existing desktop environments use bitmaps though, so "lol lmao do it yourself" - some gnome dev, probably
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 17:56 |
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NihilCredo posted:they have that, it's just not gnome because clueless bosses don't want a linux laptop. it's called cockpit and even the showcase pictures feature the typical user connecting from a windows machine tbh this looks kinda nice and i might give it a try i wonder if you can use it as an alternative to LuCI e: hey it's even on swupd lol https://cockpit-project.org/running.html#clearlinux seems v. easy Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:37 on May 6, 2024 |
# ¿ May 6, 2024 17:57 |
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corona familiar posted:doesn't Apple ask for integer scaling with assets and then does fractional scaling with the GPU so everything looks ~okay? apple asks for integer scaling (2x, 3x, etc.) for assets but yes eventually does fractional scaling with quartz extreme (if that's what it's even called anymore) this is despite quartz extreme natively supporting vector graphics since like 2002
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 18:19 |
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:yeah same, I like this a lot since most of the instructions are just "install the package and enable a sysctl variable" (e.g. even for clear the instructions are dead simple, https://cockpit-project.org/running.html#clearlinux) i'd guess you can no idea if it would conflict with LuCI though but it'd be nice to use alongside i guess. anyone got an openwrt install they don't care about? please give it a try tia
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 18:38 |
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Truga posted:yeah, the display industry needs to just give me a 10k:1 contrast ratio 16k 42" screen already it is much, much easier to manufacture a tiny, dense display than it is to manufacture a large but still dense (for the size) screen. basically for phones they cut out tiny, flawless pieces of a larger display with dead pixels and poo poo
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 20:21 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i was very much a "everything will be vector graphics in the future" person, but there's basically a 1-2 that ends the argument for me: vectors are good and should be used imo, 1. to preface, i don't disagree with you here, high resolution bitmaps are good and mostly work fine. but they are huge (file and memory size-wise), and to make matters worse you have to store multiple versions of the same asset (for some reason just scaling a 4x bitmap down to 2x is impossible). vectors don't need to be huge, but they can be, and that's the beauty of it. you don't have to worry about scaling since most formats will respect your defined aspect ratio 2. you can create vector graphics much in the same way you create bitmaps. automated conversion has been around for decades but didn't really give great results because nobody really gave a poo poo. modern implementations are getting pretty good. i don't think they're placing a bunch of irrelevant tech into anywhere — on basically every major os, you already have built-in vector support: quartz extreme, by dint of display PDF, has native support for beizers even; kde and gtk both support svg; windows probably does too, but even back in windows 9x-7 they used vectors for some icons (using a couple truetype fonts, marlett being the most common). the tech is already there honestly this argument is kind of moot though, knowing the industry as we do i would assume they are going to skip past vectors in favor of things being drawn stable diffusion style e: expand points Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 6, 2024 |
# ¿ May 6, 2024 20:25 |
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BobHoward posted:there was a macos version - i want to say 10.4 or 10.5 ish - where there was work in progress on vector rendering of all ui widgets in the public developer prereleases, but it got completely removed by release and never saw the light of day again it was in 10.4 through 10.6, even the final builds. in the developer preview you had to enable it with `defaults` but they removed that by the final release of 10.5, after that you had to use the quartz extreme debug utility. it was removed in 10.7, yet another bullet point in its favor for being the worst release of os x but it looked and worked fine in both directions (scaling up and scaling down; i also used the feature to scale the ui down to fit on an eee pc). idk what the specific reasoning was for removing it, but i assume it had something to do with then-in-development hidpi ios expecting 2x bitmaps, even though the iphone 4 and ipad 3 were released quite a while afterwards also being display PDF at the core, all of the vector assets were pdfs, so maybe they had some problem with that e: actually thinking about it some more, ios was probably the culprit. they likely thought they couldn't reliably scale pdfs on the fly at 60 fps on mobile hardware at the time, and they probably would've been right (the ipad 3 couldn't even keep up with scaling bitmaps ffs). but nearly 20 years later their laptops are literally the same as their mobile hardware Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 6, 2024 |
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eschaton posted:Apple these days makes very extensive use of “symbols” which are essentially composable single-color vector icons rendered using the same engine as fonts wow, literally the same technology introduced in windows 95
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# ¿ May 7, 2024 15:39 |
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eschaton posted:because 4K is right for 24in, if you want 27in you want 5K this is true though. they're just about the sweet spot for density + resolution as i've said repeatedly i love my 12" 4k OLED laptop, but i realize that's not for everyone. the sizes/dpi eschaton mentioned should work for just about anyone though
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Kazinsal posted:if I had a time machine I'd go back to 1982 and reimplement unix for the 5150 just to head off all that USL v. everyone bullshit at the pass so we never got to a point where linux had a reason to be used by startups and dial-up ISPs in the 90s great now we know who to blame if we're all suddenly using microsoft xenix on AT&T workstations e: reconstitute the bell system while you're at it Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 14:26 on May 14, 2024 |
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