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edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Oldstench posted:

Who has a Microfreak? Tell me why it's cool or lovely.

Total electronic music newb perspective: I just decided last week to buy my first synth and bought the Microfreak. It is both welcoming and deep; it has a ton of range and is easy for a beginner to start digging in and doing cool stuff. It has been a ton of fun and I can also tell I'm only scratching the surface. I'm adding a PO-33 for drums and random noises alongside and anticipate I'll be able to make a wide range of music with just those two pieces.

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edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
Could use some gear advice.

I have always enjoyed electronic music and finally got my first synth last year, a Microfreak, that I enjoy making weird sounds with, but I'd like to start turning those weird sounds into some sort of layered composition and I need something else to do that. I also got a PO-33 last year with the idea of being able to sample from that machine and from elsewhere and make beats and sequence but I'm not connecting with it like I thought I would. So I was thinking of getting a bigger sequencer/sampler along the same line of intent as the PO, considering a Circuit Rhythm or ???? I see the Beatstep Pro is on a pretty decent sale and have heard good things but I think that's strictly a sequencer, not sure how much that would open up the layers I'm looking for without connecting to more instruments/software. Anyway I'm still sort of a newb so please help me find the thing I need. (I'd prefer to keep playing with hardware over software)

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Ok Comboomer posted:

what’s your computer/DAW situation?

So far I have Ableton Live Lite on a desktop windows PC that feels like work to use

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Ok Comboomer posted:

I would get my computer situation dialed into something that I liked to use before spending big money on external gear.

I know this is probably the best advice but I find working with DAWs so uninspiring. There's a lot that's exciting about playing with dials and keys and buttons that disappears when I have to right click a menu. Anyone have suggestions for how to solve *that* problem?

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
I have a PO-33 which can definitely be used as a drum machine and sample machine and I’d be willing to sell it if you’re interested in a lightly used version for cheap

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

net work error posted:

Any interest in the new Make Noise XPO? I think it's a really cool idea but I'll never get one.

Preordering one, mostly because I’m a make noise junkie, but also cuz I have an xpan and qpas and mimeophon already so it’ll fit right in with its stereo friends

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Cabbages and Kings posted:

When I get over the initial Hydrasynth learning curve, get my space reconfigured and then get over the curve of interfacing the hydra to my existing semimodulars in various ways, I am going to look at adding some modular stuff:

I have 3 semi modulars now: Make Noise 0coast, and Moog Mavis & Mother32. I am imagining getting the niftycase bundle (https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NiftyBundle--cre8-audio-niftybundle-eurorack-case-with-modules-and-cables -- I have heard the included modules aren't that great but this is only $60 more than the blank case) and immediately adding a Make Noise Maths and a Mordax Data to it, and then just start tinkering with those things along side the semimodulars.

Maths just seems stupid powerful, and Data seems both powerful and like a nice way to visualize some stuff and learn more about how things work.

Does this seem like a reasonable plan and are there any other modules I should be looking at? I know Korg has NTI-2 coming out which does a lot of what Data does at a lower cost, but it's also not available yet and it's 2 channel instead of 4.

The big question is what you want to do with what you buy. I also considered getting a Data early on and ended up skipping it and spending on an actual module instead, a decision I think was right for me because I realized I found more value in making more & different sounds. But maybe if analysis is really what you’re into, it could be worth it.

If it were me with a similar budget, I’d be getting just a case, either this or the Tiptop Happy Ending, and adding an effect or two that you don’t currently have access to. I’d consider a Mimeophon or Desmodus Versio for delay or reverb, or maybe a dedicated filter. Maths is great but 0-Coast gives you half a Maths already with the slope and contour circuits, so that might be one you could hold off for a future purchase or when you outgrow your 0-coast.

edit: a Versio is also nice because you can flash any of the other Versio firmwares onto it *for free*, making it extremely versatile: https://noiseengineering.us/pages/world-of-versio

edgar_ fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jul 29, 2022

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

net work error posted:

Can you explain this part a bit more? I don't know enough about Maths to fully get it but I'd like to!

The Slope and Contour circuits on 0coast are both function generators, simpler than Maths ch1 / ch4 but similar to them. On both Maths and 0coast circuits, rise & fall can be set and modulated, you can set the rise/fall relationship with log/exp knobs, they can be triggered with gates (slope also has a cycle option to continuously fire), both have gate triggers that occur within the cycle. You can’t do everything with 0coast that you can with Maths but there’s a lot of overlap.

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Cabbages and Kings posted:

I know small racks never stay small but I want to build a small rack to supplement my mother32/0coast, but also to act as a drum box by itself.

I figure I will get the niftykeyz bundle (the included 2 modules may be kind of poo poo but for $30 each, meh, fine) and stick a Plonk in it, and then I was thinking of sticking Make Noise Pressure Points + Brains next to it... but Brains appears to be discontinued and getting harder to track down. I could certainly chase that down, but if my goal is "adding a module or 3, hopefully not insanely expensive, to make it easier to use the Plonk as a sequencable drum machine without having to lean on my other controllers", what should I be looking at?

If you are looking for drums have you considered a DFAM?

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
If anyone here is interested in a Lyra 8 or PO-33, I listed mine in the gear trade thread

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Cabbages and Kings posted:

God help me, I just bought an E352 Cloud Terrarium, and also sold my last MTG deck for $4000, with a plan of getting a Rackbrute ($279 through a deal through my employer) and slamming about $1800 worth of poo poo into it instantly. I don't really need more voice modules at this point but Morphagene is great, and VCV rack has me trying out various effects.

I'd really like a hardware reverb module oriented towards ambient. Valhalla Supermassive is an awesome program and if I could get that in a module I would instantly buy it. Any suggestions?

Starlab is definitely top tier, but be sure to also check out Noise Engineering’s Desmodus Versio at a third of the size and half the price. Highly rated and includes free access to flashing any other Versio DSP which is potentially a huge value if you’d use it.

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Stabbing Spork posted:

I was too late moving the Model D and I impulse bought a MI Rings.
At least I can re-sell these at cost later on right?

If it’s a factory built Rings you will likely make a profit on it since they’re discontinued

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
I would never stoop so low as to “arrange” a “song”

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

I also loved this. The first two minutes I was like “oh I could do this” and then everything came in around 2:15 and I was like, no, no I can’t

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Cabbages and Kings posted:

These AllFlesh touchable patch things from Control Voltage (https://www.controlvoltage.net/landscape-landscape-allflesh-10pc-kit.html) are pretty cool.

I will also plug for the fact that if you have a Strega these will enable you to use its touch points across other parts of your system, both as inputs and outputs

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
I would love to know what discord people are using, I have a few things I was going to list on reverb soon

(edit: an 0-coast and an Ochd in case anyone itt is interested :))

edgar_ fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 19, 2023

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
Posted some eurorack gear in the gear trades thread, PM if interested https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=2851542&perpage=40&pagenumber=109#post529487394

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
I thought about a data bender but I have a beads and saw this video and it made me realize that I have so much more to explore with what I already have

https://youtu.be/hCQuPwkTWSw

(obviously you do whatever you want)

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
Calsynth and Michigan Synth Works seem like they have the best reputations, everyone seems to love the Calsynth guy on other forums. Also a more stylistic option that I always liked and heard good things about build quality with is Big T Music at slateandash.com (UK-based).

After Later has a good reputation and seem like nice people but personally I think their panel designs are kinda ugly.

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

B33rChiller posted:

What's not to love?

LoL

unironically one of their best designs

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer
I've really grown to love Rene 2. I don't even use it to half of what it can do, but it fits with the way I like to create & play modular music. It has a permanent spot in my 208hp rack.

edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Cabbages and Kings posted:

:hmmyes: I am aware of this and I hope lots of makers start testing the waters (and adhering to gen3 and euro standards!)

Tony Rolando from Make Noise has been posting _lots_ of video synth creations lately, which has me curious.

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edgar_
Sep 4, 2003

kampen mot gud og hvite krist er i gang
Grimey Drawer

Wait what? It looks like they are staying in Asheville but moving to a different building

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