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My uncles wife is hardcore into this poo poo, including getting her "Doctor of Naturopathy" from Trinity School of Natural Health. Yes, you are a doctor from an online program that cost you less than $5,000, you "finished a 5-year program in 2 years," and I should listen to you over my GP and my neurologist about my migraines. Normally I'd just dismiss it as bullshit and move on with my life, but my 8-yo niece is diagnosed autism spectrum and ADHD and doing occupational therapy and on medication. At least she is now. For almost two years when she was 3-5 years old, my sister was talking Hadley out to my aunt's clinic to get biofeedback and detoxifying footbaths, was prescribed a gluten free diet, and ended up convinced by the biofeedback results that "hurr vaccines cause autism." It got to the point that my mother, who's been a nurse for over 30 years and has one of the best bullshit detectors I've ever seen got sucked into it, and ended up getting my wife (who's also a nurse) to start relating our son's developmental issues to his vaccinations, his diet, or other "allergies." Thankfully we're mostly done with all this, but I still have to trot out every year and give a verbal smackdown to my wife when she starts bitching about her mandatory flu vaccine and starts going on about our son's vaccinations. The other thing that makes me crazy with my aunt is that they live in NE Ohio Amish country and she's building her practice on alternative medicine for Amish kids with life-threatening issues like cancer. She's involved in the Sarah Hershberger case.
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I seem to have started some family drama after posting something to the effect of "if alternative medicine actually worked, it would be called medicine. Instead, it would be better to call it quackery".My Uncle who's married to a naturopath with a "doctorate" posted:Sorry but I can't agree with you. The AMA decides what is regular medicine and what is not. Double blind testing is a protocol for pharmaceuticals and is not a fail safe. Watch your TV, how many of your "tested" products are the subject of class action lawsuits, recalls, and warnings about how a drug that is "tested" for foot fungus can cause diarrhea, blindness, or in extreme cases, Death. But hey, it can mask the symptoms of foot fungus but that' okay. (Just an example) His wife services the Amish population in NE Ohio, and was involved in a case where an Amish family fled the country to avoid a court-appointment medical advocate over their 10-yo's cancer treatment. For some fun stuff, here's her credentials: quote:She is a Doctor of Natural Medicine (ND), Certified Natural Health Practitioner (CNHP), D.PSc – Diplomate of Pastoral Science for PMA and a licensed health provider for PMA, Veterinary Aide, Digital Health Specialist (QBS) – Quantum Biofeedback Specialist, a Digestive Care Specialist for Advanced Naturals, an Independent Consultant for doTerra Essential Oils and Certified AromaTouch Technician for doTerra. CommanderApaul fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 11, 2015 |
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OwlFancier posted:So she's a vet with a lot of hobbies? Pretty much. She's the one who talked my registered nurse mother and my lab technician sister into biofeedback, detox foot baths and a gluten free diet for my sister's ADHD/autistic daughter, convincing the both of them that her autism was caused by her vaccinations because the biofeedback machine somehow indicated mercury causing problems. Weekly therapy sessions for months, at a discounted rate because it's family. It even bled over to my RN wife who wanted to delay our son's vaccinations "because of what they did to Hadley." They finally woke the gently caress up, got the girl to a psych doctor at Columbus Childrens, and got her on ADHD medication that has drastically improved her quality of life, to the point that she's able to be mainstreamed in school just a year behind where she should be, after 3 years of getting repeatedly kicked out of daycares for her behavior and my sister losing 4 jobs because of lack of childcare. I can't imagine where they'd be if they'd kept listening to her bullshit.
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Ravenfood posted:Which can be found in the "Lets Illustrate EN" thread, iirc. Every year, a handful of staff members get fired from the hospitals around town for refusing their flu vaccine (that the hospital provides them for free, during work hours no less), and make a big stink to the local news with their lawyer about how they're going to sue. You'd think they would have gotten the point by now, every hospital in town has required it since H1N1 hit. The first year it was mandated for non-healthcare staff a the hospital I was working at, we had over 100 staff members terminated, including three people in my department. Their insistence that management either didn't have the right or the balls to do it, right up to standing at the timeclock to punch in the day of the deadline (See, we're still here, I told you they wouldn't do it!), was glorious. So was the one guy crying that he'd go to employee health and get it right then while he was getting escorted out the door. CommanderApaul fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Pohl posted:Good post. I just want to say that I don't get the flu shot because I don't get the flu. I never have, and neither have my mom or sister. If you don't have contact with sick people or the very young/old, then I'm not going to berate you too hard for not getting the flu shot, but you really should get it anyways. You may not get sick with the flu, but you can still exposed, and then expose other people who will get sick. Also, Gardasil feeds into a whole other ball of craziness that has less to do with vaccines and more to do with punishing women for having sex. 
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:I don't understand why they always freak out about these sorts of things? The US government can literally hand you a gun and tell you that you are now a soldier, deal with it and go shoot some people. How is that not an order of magnitude above the government telling you to take your god drat shots? I mean, do people not understand what exactly the government can do, and what historical governments could do? Most of the people who freak out about these sorts of things have little to no interactions with the government in any way that could be considered "forceful". They may have gotten a speeding ticket once or twice, or gotten busted for pot back in college, but for the most part they live their lives and have no idea what kind of hammer the government is legally capable of dropping on them.
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