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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://dailyddt.com/2017/01/01/shinsuke-nakamura-may-fail-wwe-main-roster/

Nakamura Will Fail Because No Speak English, Admit He Has Charisma For Days

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Underst31030789/status/1134653006581063681

https://mobile.twitter.com/Underst31030789/status/1133394620891750400

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Mero had two cool finishers and for kids like me having a cool finisher was like the entirety of a wrestler.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I put 95% of Cena being booed due to having two finishers that looked awful that prevented anyone from popping.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Counterpoint: People who booed Cena cheered for Edge, who had like 8 finishers, each and every one of which sucked.

I liked the Downward Spiral drat it, also why i loved Mortis with the Flatliner which is a top tier finisher name. Wrath too with the pump handle powerslam called the Death Sentence.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lunatic Sledge posted:

when wrath became half of kronik as just good ol' bryan clark, they renamed the finisher to The Meltdown and it still loving ruled

I remember absolutely nothing about bryan clark except how cool a 6'6" dude doing a pumphandle powerslam is

Current writers of WWE appealing to children - cool finishers and cool finisher names bloody matter

Brock is partially Brock because his F5 is just perfection as a finisher on every level

The Manhandle Slam, is not.

Edit: i.e. in the second match of the AEW card I had to look up Kip Sabian's name, but having a finisher named the Deathly Hallows is just good branding that is memorable

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/by3kz8/unpopular_opinion_undertaker_looks_better_than_he/

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Luke72w posted:

One time I heard Virgil tell someone on an airplane that while he was in Shane McMahon's hotel suite during WM30 weekend that someone explained to him that no one respected Daniel Bryan, especially the older wrestlers like Steve Austin, and that he made no money and was probably asleep on a couch in the lobby because he could fit on it and it was all he could afford.

That is to say, Big Daddy should probably be in the WON HOF before Daniel Bryan.

I just realised the terrifying thought of the generation of wrestlers who grew up with 2004-2012 era raw. Those now mostly greq with attitude era and talk of Eddie Guerrero a lot, and Benoit uf he wasnt persona non grata. Who will be the inspirations from that period? Im leaving out the last few years because i hope Bryan, Seth, Cesaro, Ricochet, early Bray even, might rub off.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

coconono posted:

List of women wrestlers mad online because they were denied an opportunity to work Wrestle Kingdom:

That said Cyborg vs Meiko Satomura would be exactly up NJPW's alley.

just had flashbacks to the Gracie's in NJPW and hate you for it

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I'd be embarrassed to wear a Bullet Club shirt in 2019.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ErikFrenz/status/1143671295974006784

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Merge it with Suzuki-gun as thats lacking talent right now too through injury or otherwise. Bullet Club is a stable without leaders. Suzuki-gun is a leadership without a stable.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
the exclusion of bisexual people from both heterosexual and queer communities is a real thing thats been going on a long time, its depressing

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Insert here the tna mutant in a singlet gif

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
The Montreal Screwjob was a work

I used to think it was real so I guess it worked me well. But think about how open they are with it, how often it's been mentioned in story lines. It made the evil Vince character that can feud with Stone Cold. It makes Brett Hart even more loved by the fans. Like a good babyface he only lost since the other guy cheated him. Now the smart fans see he lost in a way that still shows the whole thing as fantasy. It's what an Attitude Era WWE needs. They are copying ECW and half way admitting what it is while still making it a show. Vince hated ECW yet he could not deny that approach got fans to watch.

If it was real the WWE would have never shown the clip again. How often do you hear about Wendi Richter? Also, Brett came back to the WWE. So he either was not happy with being getting all the respect in the world showing up an indy show for less pay than Vince can afford or he has no morals. He does not need money. I've heard he was not a party guy who blew it on drugs. He's a smart family man who was a top guy. He does not need the WWE to say goodbye to fans or be loved. He came back to close the story line when the time was right.


Lots of wrestlers agree with me too.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Remember when Cena cucked Zack Ryder

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Dimebags Brain posted:

Browsing the new submissions of reddit is a treasure trove for this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/chgku2/wwe_is_not_a_monopoly/

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/160443/monopoly-wwe

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCir...tm_source=share

This thread

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Benne posted:

In the middle of a thread talking about All Japan's attendance and streaming numbers (all bad), we got this delicious nugget of Wrestling Bubble Twitter:

https://twitter.com/FerranteFamous/status/1155936717012008960

I can count the number of people I have seen reference AJPW in the scope of souring on NJPW as an alternative on no hands.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Naito is people in the 80s saying Flair's held the belt for too long time to put it on Kerry von Erich.

Jay White is Ron Garvin.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

TTBF posted:

Facebook showed me a post a friend commented on. The comment was along the lines of "NJPW fans are hypocrites. Okada is no different than Roman Reigns. They should be upset at him. He has too many championship reigns and it's time for someone not stale and boring."

This would be true if Roman won the Rumble that Batista won instead. A year later dud a number on him, especially his push to the main event after The Shield break up and especially the injury updates when he got injured. It was amazing, it was an unironic week by week injury update just like randy Orton in the early 2000s except was meant to keep him a face and instead turned him into Poochie.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
if okada booked his record setting championship run never in the main event, with hiroshi tanahashi as the main eventer instead because he was the draw i promise okada wouldve still gotten over because being the champion for a year is more important than not main eventuing a single ppv, including wrestlekingdom, why are you all booing us

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

MJeff posted:

Roman's push is completely different from Okada's because Vince chickened out on actually pushing Roman over the top what, three times? Before he actually did it in the most limpdick way possible. Gedo actually pushed Okada.

Roman is much closer to Naito. They waited to pull the trigger when he was hot so he had already cooled off so by the time he was meant to be The Guy (G1, Royal Rumble) people soured on them for others (Hiroshi Tanahashi, Daniel Bryan). Their biggest problem was then enduring the literal years of boos and the smarks saying "turn him heel". They think making him heel would kill him for merch when if they just stepped back and realised His Cousin The Rock got over through being a heel who organically through heelishness became a face they were trying to bloody save him. Meanwhile Naito did turn heel, became tranquilo, pissed people off for a while and then as time went on became really popular through charisma. Like when EVIL debuted he was meant to be EVIL and it was so on the nose that I laughed when I first saw the recap.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
To be fair to that they took years to turn The Uso's too, instead they were the twins no one could tell apart who did a haka in their entrance. Like I know the people who just could focus on their ring work, like Big Dave, said they were great but a few years back I remember Dave being shocked The Uso's not winning tag team of the year over The Young Bucks and I did a double take because literally until he said them I didn't think anyone rated The Uso's as anything other than "that team with the titles in WWE". Hell that may have been the first year the Bucks won it.

P.S. Please for the love of gently caress The Bucks better not win this year. They should've already lost a few, definitely at least once to The Revival, but if they win this year over anyone (but especially the Lucha Brothers) I give up on them entirely and they've gone too far into the meme.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Jerusalem posted:

loving amazing :allears:

Like... it was actually a super cool moment, but why would you even compare the two? :xd:

I'm imagining Michael Cole calling Shibata's return and Kevin Kelly calling Sasha Banks.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

ItohRespectArmy posted:

There's basically nothing crazier to me iwc wise than people thinking wrestling storylines is when two guys cut twenty minute promos at each other and have 3
matches on ppvs and that's all.

Watching the G1 get storylines over in multiman tag matches every night especially the Suzuki-Gun ones with special mention to Taichi was awesome.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Vince MechMahon posted:

As someone who likes comics and wrestling that analogy is true as far as AEW being good and ran by competent people and WWE sucking rear end and being ran by people who are stuck in the eighties.

gently caress Geoff Johns

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

I want to see where this Arquette title reign goes too

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Yeah SA mod

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

CopywrightMMXI posted:

2k15 was pretty negatively received too. It was the first one for the current gen systems and it was really stripped down.

This is Assassins Creed Unity levels of disaster

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Everything in this

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCir...tm_source=share

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
He shouldve never stopped doing Scooby Dooby Doo

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
replace Obama with AEW and Keyes with WWE for how the viewers and ratings work

Obama vs. Alan Keyes is proof. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But the twenty-seven percenters in Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Jerusalem posted:

loving JJ Dillon would have watched that promo and understood what they were after, and he STILL hasn't figured out what Sting wanted all those years ago.

JJ still weeps over the contract for a match with THE Scott Hall. What do you want Steve?!

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Toru Yano was a monster heel who shaved the head of Hiromu Takahashi.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Gaz-L posted:

Did you listen to that reaction on night 2? Those people weren't there for Okada.

They cheered Kerry but they wouldnt have been there without Flair

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SaintVicious67/status/1216083823995314176

https://mobile.twitter.com/SaintVicious67/status/1216094550852358144

https://mobile.twitter.com/MiseryEater101/status/1216078840855818241

#standwithtessa

https://mobile.twitter.com/migueljoto/status/1216085464328720385

https://mobile.twitter.com/migueljoto/status/1216088812096344064

And even Libertarian Impact CJ Larson has appeared

https://mobile.twitter.com/CJLarson5/status/1216076859705831424

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Galaxy Brain take is that this is a work

https://mobile.twitter.com/CanvasPirate/status/1216145096451743745

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattyOrtizDrip/status/1217618956737032192

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattyOrtizDrip/status/1217636896953765890

Every post they make is amazing

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattyOrtizDrip/status/1217947161465364481

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realIconnick/status/1217851831625404416

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