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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
It wont be a true successor to the Bugle until John manages to introduce a news story by quoting song lyrics.

Or quoting the Iron Sheikh's twitter account.

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:

I've been listening to The Bugle due to this show and it's remarkable how John Oliver is incredible no matter where he is or what he's doing but Andy is loving insufferable without John on the Bugle to balance him

They balance each other. Andy's bullshit is tempered by John's refusal to engage with it, and John's occasional anxiety and indignation is countered by Andy's, well, bullshit.

While Andy's solo Bugle bits aren't so great, his stand-up is quite good.

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jun 18, 2014

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Bown posted:

The humour in this show would be a lot better if Oliver just told the jokes and moved on sometimes instead of trying to do an impression of whatever it is he's joking about. An example from this episode would be the bit about the coffee machines. It was a cute line, but then he follows it up by trying to do an impression of someone trying to use one and it kinda ruins it. Plus those are usually the most shouty bits.

He seems to play that up on TV or for American audiences, I'm not sure which, since on the Bugle he's a lot more restrained and tends to lean on brutal sarcasm than outright shouting to hammer home a point.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Propaganda Machine posted:

John Oliver pulls out the British card a lot, and the fact remains that the creation of Israel was Britain's fault. That probably hurts.

On the Bugle he called the British Museum "the world's largest active crime scene."

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Well that's probably the best thing I've seen in a long time.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

MizPiz posted:

You guys are aware you're trying to explain misogyny to a pedophile, right?

That explains a lot.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
The talking pineapple is no mystery to anyone who took French Immersion in Ontario in the 90s.

Téléfrançais! Téléfrançais!

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
reddit.com/r/childfree strikes again

much like public healthcare, only in america do these beneficial programs get bat around in moral and regressive terms.

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 22:55 on May 12, 2015

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Don't worry, people are working very hard to drag other wealthy democratic nations down to our level.

don't I know it!

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Thurm posted:

On more positive news, John's interview with Pepe Julian Onziema just won the GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Talk Show Episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3deUBcUylI8

4 pages of poo poo posting and no one comments on this. It's really cool to hear that Pepe's interview had such a positive impact on the discussion of LGBQT rights in Uganda and Pepe's own personal life.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

IRQ posted:

Reddit is owned by massive multimedia corporation Advance Publications, they just seem to have no interest in curtailing all the horrible poo poo that goes on there.

They started clamping down on the subreddits that seemed to endorse real life harassment, so they do change poo poo, but I mean how long did it take to ban the obvious child porn/jailbait reddits? They move really slow.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Motto posted:

Mainly just ones big enough to show up on the front page. There are still plenty of awful ones left untouched from what I heard.

No doubt, and they probably wont go away either.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Oliver's always been like that I think, even before he got famous on The Bugle Andy would lavish John with praise and he'd deflect or turn it into a joke every time.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Astro Nut posted:

If anyone's hankering for some contextualised history stuff, I recommend the world history series done by PBS and John Green. Its a little simplified, but it covers a wide range of stuff one will probably never hear about in a classroom.

I'm actually curious how John's background affects his particular understanding of the United States and its history. Ie, how he might understand aspects of the cukture but still disagree due to where he came from, and alternatively vastly appreciates aspects that others take for granted (such as how wide and diverse it is both culturally and geographically).

John Green is a writer of those scholcky teen movies (Fault In Our Stars), I'm pretty sure he's working with his old high school history teacher and probably a few more consultants now if it's on PBS.

They aren't bad takes on history, as he does present some pretty common counter-narratives to what you learn in grade school, but the whole bit about how trade is really great for different groups of people without reservation is a big problem imo

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Xoidanor posted:

There's no such thing as an unbiased interpretation of history.

What??? Really!?!

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Veskit posted:

Yes really. What interpretation doesn't have bias?

No way!!

Echo Chamber posted:

In Crash Course World History, John Green made it clear that one of the big drawbacks of trade was the movement of disease. And invading armies, trafficking, and exploitation.

Ah I missed that, he just kept pumping up how awesome trade was in the ones I watched reviewing it to see if it`d be useful for class. That`s good then.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Jack2142 posted:

If I had to teach a medieval history I probably would be weird and make students by CKII and make them do a project on their characters/dynasties etc. and maybe forge a connection with the period they are learning about.

(Some) Historians are starting to take games seriously and critically. They can be useful teaching tools, but it`s important to understand how the game systems are set up and how they might distort students`view of how history develops and changes. Civilization, for example, is pretty Whiggish in that technological is a straightforward line towards The Future. EU4 obviously is kind hosed because the end goal for any non-western civilization is to Westernize. CK2 is fun but it emphasizes individuals over communities and societies etc.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Even if it's not perfect the legislation might force law enforcement agencies to learn what Twitter is, at the very least.

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Echo Chamber posted:

I'm about as anti-pseudoscience as the next goon, but I did notice there's a weird strand of the pro-science crowd that gets really angry at any form of popular science. Like, they hate the "I loving love science" Facebook page because REASONS and some of them even hate NDT and Bill Nye too because they're popular science communicators loved by normals. These people are the types who are big on geek gatekeeping; I'll avoid the obvious comparison.

this lines up with academics who refuse to engage with the public and break free from their disciplinary jargon. the excuse is that these popular commentators get things wrong or aren't as intelligent as people think (I mean see NDT talk about anything aside from astophysics, yeesh). But for disciplines deemed less necessary to society these days (most things in the humanities) I think that inclination is dying off because disciplinary boundaries are mostly dumb, anyway.

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