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I liked the original Spider-Girl series and enjoyed how some characters were handled. But DeFalco's dialogue gets loving OLD after a while.
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Flameingblack posted:Anya was like that too, until they killed her father and orphaned her. Never underestimate editoria's misguided attempts to "SHAKE THINGS UP FOREVER!" I honestly didn't care much for Anya until she adopted the Spider-Girl thing. I thought that first issue was good but then that dumb writer went on and on about "an Uncle Ben moment" so of course her father had to be murdered.
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Nov 12, 2014 04:17
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^^^^ A re-match with Morlun and Black Panther by a writer that doesn't suck would be a good read. Well I didn't really care for the second Spider-verse story. I enjoyed the first one and Slott trolling the gently caress out of Newspaper Spider-Man was pretty funny. But it did nothing to advance the plot. I guess this is going to be the comic where all the other alt Spideys will get that didn't get their own Edge of Spider-Verse book.
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Nov 12, 2014 17:49
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CharlestheHammer posted:Probably, that is the same basic reason people hated Morlun when JMS introduced him. I really enjoyed JMS first story. It is easily one of my top 10 favorite Spidey stories of all time. But almost all of his villains are really made to be used once.
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Nov 13, 2014 01:57
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radlum posted:I liked the Newspaper Spider-Man and Hostess Spider-Man stories. Steampunk and Penelope were OK too. Drop everything you're doing and go read Yost's Scarlet Spider series right now.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:41
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Kraven also showed up in Black Panther when Panther took over for Daredevil a while back.
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Nov 14, 2014 15:20
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Were there too many two page spreads in this book? I honestly felt it was a bit hard to follow everything.
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Nov 19, 2014 20:29
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TwoPair posted:So Old Man Spidey is "Ezekiel"... um... who the hell is Ezekiel? Am I supposed to know him? He's also the guy who trapped Silk in that panic room for the better part of a decade. He appeared and his back story was briefly explained in like ASM 3 or whatever the first Original Sin tie in issue was.
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Nov 21, 2014 16:51
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I don't think it was a mind blowingly awesome mini that I'll be re-reading several years down the line. But it was an enjoyable and fun read. And, like every other Spock appearance not written by Slott, had a really good Spock.
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Nov 23, 2014 19:48
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Its easily one of the best Spidey stories ever. But his run on FNSM was forgettable at best.
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Nov 29, 2014 17:52
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Waterhaul posted:Yes. The only main characters JMS ever used was MJ and May. Sasca had his little mystical thing going on with Madame Webb and Black Cat and Thomas Rhineheart or whoever she was dating at the time. But PAD used Betty Brant, Robbie, Jonah, Flash, and Deb Whitman. I thought he had some interesting ideas in some cases, such as Deb writing a Tell All book because if there's one person Peter kinda hosed over in his romantic life, it was her. And his last issue with Jonah and Peter is still a really good read and really shows what kind of relationship they had for the .5 seconds he was unmasked. And the sad thing is we'll probably never get an honest Jonah again because the cartoon character version is just easier to write. But for the most part, the villains were uninspiring boardering on horrible (Hobgoblin 2299) and some of the interesting side plots are dropped due to the rush to end the series for OMD. I mean, Jonah telling his father "to butter a roll and sit down" with Norman Osborn, a man who at one time bought out the Bugle and has personally threatened him and most of his paper's staff, was absolutely mind boggling, and that was from a writer I generally like (Kelly in American Son).
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Nov 30, 2014 16:00
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Hah, all of New York looks the same in '67 Spider-Man. What universe is this Goblin from?
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TwoPair posted:I don't think Spider-Verse is the greatest story, but the overreaction I see to it here is insane. You'd think Dan Slott personally broke in to peoples' homes and kicked their dogs. That said, I did think the scene where Morlun walks up on Mayday was a little poorly done. As far as "Events that Marvel Has", Dan Slott's aren't the absolute worst but they're hardly that great. Think of a Dan Slott event as when you were eight and you and your friends, after eating cereal loaded with sugar for breakfast, gathered all of your action figures and just smashed them together and made sound effects with your mouth and made up complete bullshit powers and move combinations to justify how your action figures "beat" the other ones. Pretend video games weren't an option. This is pretty much what a Dan Slott Spider-Man event is. As with all events, good things can still come of it. Remender's Venom has a pretty important moment during Spider-Island. Yost's Scarlet Spider spins out of the events involved in Spider-Island (and Slott is still playing with themes that Yost built up on in Scarlet Spider). And as typical with Slott events (and really, a lot of the Marvel events), the build up is okay to good, the start is good, but the event drags on way too long, and the event is often Punching Something Hard In the Face or sometimes a plot device invention that solves the problem. I remember liking the start of Spider-Island, but the rest of the event was complete garbage, including the ending. The only good thing that came from it was Carlie dumping Peter, and I think that was like the one time I ever felt like I "got" her as a character that made her interesting and unique as a Spider-Man character rather than just a Dan Slott Dream Girl.
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Waterhaul posted:People were talking about it in the X thread, it's only going to be Spider-Man and the X-Men for an arc or so and then will become someone else and the X-Men. Well that's disappointing. I like Spider-Man in a teacher role.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:16
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How overtly sexual this book is is just loving ridiculous.
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I don't know, Spider-Woman guessing booty call when interacting with some random guy who knew that Earth's Jessica, as well as Morlun apparently being married to that universe's Jessica with a full page kiss, is still pretty sexual regardless of who is writing it. The Spider-Woman I've read about in Avengers Assemble and Bendis' solo book probably would've said gently caress this poo poo halfway through the book and started knocking some heads around.
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Dec 18, 2014 13:59
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Well done, a kiss is now sexual.... I'd say the way this kiss was portrayed certainly wasn't some romantic gesture.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:57
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Yvonmukluk posted:Edit: Good news, everyone! I really like Mayday as a concept and I purchased MC2 Spider-Girl for a very long time. But Tom D has such atrocious dialogue. I mean I know all teenagers written by 40 something adults sound bad, but his sound way worse.
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Jan 7, 2015 01:03
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Spock hasn't had any direct interaction with Miles but they've both been in the same room.
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I think it depends on how much you want to ignore the original Green Goblin or more specifically the original Norman Osborn. Norman Osborn was the dickhead CEO who knifed his way to the top by stabbing everyone else in the back. There's really no indication in the original comics that he was all that smart of a scientist or inventor. He just employed smart people who invented stuff. Norman's origin is he dicks over his business partner, goes looking into his stuff, tries to replicate the serum and it literally blows up in his face. Norman is by no means a dumb man, but he's a manipulator at worst and a leader at best. What made Norman interesting as a villain early on is that he knew Peter's identity and could get to him. But the sticking point was he was loving nuts when he found out so Peter never really knew if he could recall it when he was sane. Sometimes I like to point out that he also tried to lead the criminal gangs as well, but that was pretty much the goal of every Spider-Man villain back then so I don't put too much stock into it. Now Norman has been written for so long as at least a somewhat smart and capable scientist that you might as well run with it. But every now and then a writer will hit on a theme of Norman's designs kind of sucking or him stealing someone's work. In the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, Adrien Toomes accuses him of stealing tech flight from an invention of his he pitched to Oscorp. During a Dark Reign one-shot written by Slott, Spider-Man ended up beating Iron Patriot because Norman's "star" shaped laser chest was really bad at letting heat out so he just let Norman overheat and beat him easily. Ock, however, is a brilliant scientist in his own right and has proven it time and time again. He had a horrible accident happen to him and instead of doing something good, he became selfish. He's more of a polar opposite of Peter than Norman is, but their rivalry has never been about identities. It is that both think the other is wasting their talent. At some points in his life, you could probably say Norman was insane and not in full control of his actions. I think that is much less of a case with Otto. Even in the often cited "I will cure you from this unknowable disease" during the Clone Saga of Ock's great heart, the ending has him admitting he's only doing it so he can kill Spider-Man later in life, and then Kaine just rips his head off or whatever anyway. I actually think Ock has stayed more true to his roots than Norman, and that's probably because he's rarely used outside of the spider-books.
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Peter was a TA while working on an unspecified master's degree back in the 80s with Stern. In the Byrne/Mackie reboot he was a lab assistant for like 2 issues. TwoPair posted:It is notable that one of the first things that Ock does after taking Peter's body is note how easy to make Peter's web fluid is and how he could have made a shitload of money with it. Then he's amazed that Peter doesn't have a doctorate so he goes off and gets one. Ock thinks Parker is wasting his talents on superheroing, Parker thinks Ock is wasting his on evil (they're both kinda right well Peter is right, but Doc Ock has a point). And Peter and Iron MAn and a lot of others have had the same thoughts as well. Of course Tony Stark could run a patent through a shell corporation or whatever. Peter doesn't have those kind of resources, at least when first starting out.
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Jan 12, 2015 00:25
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Nevvy Z posted:I'm pretty sure he was a teacher in the Other but that all got wiped shortly after by OMD/BMD. Actually that isn't true, both in what actually happened and that "OMD/BND" (which one is a very specific story and one is encompassing like 3 years worth of several stories) actually "wiped" anything (it didn't) Peter stopped teaching after he unmasked. People were protesting outside the school and all kinds of crazy poo poo. Even in the alternate universe where OMD never happened, any principal or superintendent would have some very big issues with Peter because he is either an outlaw or a public superhero who has to make time for his heroics at the drop of a hat.
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Worth pointing out Kaine pretty much became The Other during Yost's awesome Scarlet Spider series. But Peter has done jack so far besides sending spiders out for adventures.
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Dacap posted:Earth X Spider-Girl embraced the symbiote too Wasn't she recently destroyed from existence in Remender's Uncanny Avengers? I only barely remember reading that story and I don't think I read the end.
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Hobie has at times been Peter's go-to gadget guy when he didn't have a good relationship with the Avengers or when Conners was off being a Lizard. But geez I don't think Hobie has even had an on-panel appearance since Fraction's Punisher, where Puma and Spidey escorted Hobie out of the Bar With No Name before Castle blew it the gently caress up. ...and then like, three weeks later in Slott's She-Hulk, he retconned the whole thing into no criminals dying but they all got third degree burns.
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Jan 16, 2015 04:14
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Blockhouse posted:hahahahaha Uh where is that coming from? I just re-read the Spider-Girl/Ben story in Team-Up and I didn't see anything to suggest it is some other non-MC2 May.
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Jan 22, 2015 03:53
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Eh, that was my pet theory earlier. For example, Ultimate Universe was misidentified with another number. In a later issue (I think the recap of Spider-Verse Team-Up or something) they re-IDed it as the correct number. Maybe in DeFalco's own mind. But Spider-Verse couldn't be more clear that these are the actual Spider-Men from their respective verses. Benjy and Benny are both sort for Benjamin. It isn't like the baby has been called some completely unrelated name like John. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 12:08
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hiddenriverninja posted:How old is 616-Peter supposed to be? Early thirties? 26-29. Civil War had him say 15 when he got big and generally accepted 11-15 yeas. But no one from Marvel Comics will ever recognize him hitting the big 3 0 because that "ages" him too much
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Jan 24, 2015 01:57
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Still Vietnam. Remender de-aged him during FrankenCastle...well, after he was cured of it, anyway. People kept saying that Rucka upgraded him to just "the war" but I don't recall that ever being in an issue. Maybe it was on the recap page or something?
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Jan 25, 2015 16:28
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Nevermind that kids just do not read loving comics and it hasn't stopped the vast majority of mass media Spider-Man appearances from having a single Spider-Man. Or even a young, teenage Spider-Man. In fact, I don't think there is any mass media adaptation outside of the newspaper strip where he is actually married to anybody. 90s series doesn't county because you can't marry a Water Clone, duh.
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Pureauthor posted:So, as someone who mostly hangs around the fringe ofcomic books, is there a known reason why they chose Morlun and his family NotMorlun1, NotMorlun2, She-Morlun, and GoodMorlun to be the main big bad threat to this whole Spider-Verse thing? I wouldn't be surprised if Slott originally wanted to use Norman as the villain and it was vetoed by editorial. He was the main villain in the USM show version of Spider Verse called Web Warriors.
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Jan 27, 2015 14:52
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Never got all the love for Spidey being an avenger... Because its been a childhood dream of his and he has a pretty good working relationship, and in some cases axrual friendship, with much of the team that became Bend is New Avengers Edit: I actually do wonder if Spidey will be seen in Hickman's Avengers again notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Nah Venom is horrible poo poo now that Bendis had his way and made the symbioses honorable alien warriors looking for good hosts to do good. Did he even actually write his Symbiote Planet story? Or have I just blissfully ignored Guardians and missed it? Has Venom even done anything in Guardians?
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Gaz-L posted:I'll bite: As someone who's only seen a few posted pages of Silk being Asian-American-lady-Captain-America regarding Facebook, Tumblr and smartphones, and the preview pages from her solo book (which I'm planning on getting because they seemed like fun, straight-forward superhero stuff and I think her costume's cool), why is everyone so mad about her? Because she's been in some really lovely books and is pretty much a sex object at this point. She could be more. Hell, Alpha's mini was actually pretty good but no one cares anymore and he is Forgotten Teenager Hero #382920(c).
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Feb 12, 2015 03:31
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Forktoss posted:I'm just looking for fun Spidey stuff to read, to be honest. They're not in the best condition anyway, and I'm not really interested in trying to sell any of this forward. They're not even the original issues, actually - they're issues of the Finnish Spider-Man book, where they used to (and probably still do) lump two or three issues from several Spider-books into one monthly magazine. Marvel Adventure spider man would be a great read for you.
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Feb 18, 2015 19:44
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Dr. Killjoy posted:There's Garth Ennis' remarkaby restrained Spidey-story he did for Tangled Web of Spider-Man (trades of which are remarkably cheap on Amazon and also has that Flowers for Rhino story). Also it involves yet another spider-person being created as a result of Peter's original lab accident. Grim Hunt from 4 or so years back was pretty good. You don't need to read the several stories before it but they all are connected to the Kraven family either intentionally or incidentally leading old villains of Spideys to him to wear him down. You should also read Yost's Scarlet Spider series. Just cause.
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Feb 27, 2015 02:58
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Probably Magic posted:Sorry, guys, Fraction's X-Men wasn't very good, so I'm gonna have to take a pass on this Hawkeye thing I keep hearing about, just too much of a bad taste in my life. Read iron fist. If you like that you'll like Hawkeye.
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Mar 5, 2015 21:44
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Slott wrote a decent intro story to Flash as Venom but I doubt a Slott run would've been memorable. Remender though had a loving amazing Venom run. Honestly wish Remender or Bunn would've killed him off though because he is doing jack poo poo in Guardians. Spock was pretty great under every other writer besides Slott. Basically, have other people write Slott's creations.
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Mar 12, 2015 12:39
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Yvonmukluk posted:That's because Stan is still The Man. It is actually Stan's brother or cousin or whoever that writes the daily strip.
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These Conway gangwar stories are loving awesome. And people should use Mr. Negative more often. His visual just works great for comics. Though wasn't his identity outed at some point?
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