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My workplace bumped the min pay from 18/hr to 20/hr in response to that, and we're manufacturing. Not related to fast food at all.
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How many peoples wages are impacted by the new law Fake edit: LA times has an article dated March 27 2024 suggesting as of May 2022 BLS says 540,000 with 195,000 in La and Orange county That's about 300,000 higher than I was expecting Interesting to see other industries feeling competition from fast food. Fast food makes up what, 1.4% of the population? With a labor participation rate of 62% and 540k looks like 2.23% of the workforce
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OgNar posted:Oh no, the road we built on top of a cliff with the ocean at the bottom eroded. History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE
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we spend so much money maintaining poo poo rear end roads to fast food in the suburbs or w/e , we can have a nice road on the scenic coast idgaf if it falls down sometimes. rebuild it.
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hey look these idiots didnt build their road on graded lowland earth between tract housing and a strip mall, freakin idiotes
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Just get rid of the southbound lane and make it one-way. That should buy us some time!
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Tayter Swift posted:Wages and like pay for like work, primarily. Update: CAPS members have voted to merge the union with UAW. CalHR has responded by tentatively imposing a Last, Best, Final Offer on us with a 3% wage increase and revokes union leave. They also filed a formal complaint alleging that our strike last November was illegal.
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Just curious but why would a local union not move to join a larger union pretty much immediately? Based on their website it looks like they formed maybe in 1984 Also why aren't all state employees represented by the same union
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Hadlock posted:Just curious but why would a local union not move to join a larger union pretty much immediately? Based on their website it looks like they formed maybe in 1984 CAPS isn't local, they represent all scientists working for CA. I can't say if joining UAW (united auto workers?) is good or bad, it's... an interesting move. The short answer is that a union focused on a type of job is probably going to be more responsive to the needs of that type than one big union. PECG (engineers) is largely helmed by engineers, so presumably they represent the needs or wishes of the engineers better than a big omni-union would, where the attention given to engineers would also be shared by scientists, lawyers, LEO, safety, accountants, etc. In practice this may still not be "representative" if there's a particular job type that overwhelms the union - PECG is overwhelming in Cal Trans, presumably CAPS is overwhelmingly in CalEPA, whatever represents LEO would likely be overwhelmingly in CHP, etc - but it's still more representative. Downside is sometimes your union gets worse deals than others for various reasons. Upside is sometimes your union gets much better deals. I don't know if there's anything that could clearly say what the optimal setup is, I can make arguments in lots of directions.
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Pretty wild tie for the congressional race in my district. The two second place candidates got exactly 30,249 votes each, so there will be 3 candidates on the ballot in November. https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/05/borenstein-in-tied-congressional-race-voters-deserve-a-recount/ And this op ed writer is all pissed about it lol.
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Zachack posted:CAPS isn't local, they represent all scientists working for CA. Well, not national Can you work at a single job and belong to multiple unions? CAPS, UAW, ... some future CA government workers union? 30,000 strong is pretty good but they don't have a lot of direct levers to turn down profits for capitalism. Shutting down the entire ca state gov seems like it would be very effective when if for only one day The fast food minimum wage thing is really interesting; it had a huge impact Even outside their industry, apparently, but fast food workers largely aren't unionized. Like, this is exactly how a socialist government is supposed to work, just pass a law mandating a (borderline) livable wage, no need to unions to go strike and organize at the bargaining table every 4 years or whatever
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Hadlock posted:Like, this is exactly how a socialist government is supposed to work, just pass a law mandating a (borderline) livable wage, no need to unions to go strike and organize at the bargaining table every 4 years or whatever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#By_country For the period from 1996 to 2000, the ten countries with the most strike action (measured by average number of days not worked for every 1000 employees) were as follows: 
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Yeah you never hear about France striking anymore
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Now that we have a Democrat/Labor Party in power, there's no need to strike anymore. The powerful will simply act in our interests
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Hadlock posted:Apparently the fast food bill has already triggered wage increases for school lunch
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#By_country those are capitalist countries
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Cactus Ghost posted:those are capitalist countries Go make a list of non-capitalist countries and get back to us
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BeAuMaN posted:Yeah I saw that article. Another "oh the woes of raising the minimum wage". I mean the $20/hour raise for fast food workers was a backdoor increase on the general minimum wage. The authors knew what they were doing when they negotiated that concession from the franchises. Is there a write up somewhere on how this was orchestrated? This was such a wild success it seems like it should be the model for raising wages going forward Unions are great and all but because it's a state law everyone gets the benefit. Seems like democracy is... almost working as intended?
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Rust Martialis posted:Go make a list of non-capitalist countries and get back to us North Korea Antarctica Vietnam
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Hadlock posted:Antarctica So close!! That is a shape 💕
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Are you denying the people of Antartica statehood? What is it to you, a refugee camp
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Hadlock posted:North Korea Hey don't forget Cuba, unless I'm out of the loop on something
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The massive European tourist destination with major hotel chains and cruise ship terminal? Should we be adding the Bahamas and Bermuda to this list
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Vietnam is also a pretty big tourist destination for southeast Asia last I checked and that made the list
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Hadlock posted:Is there a write up somewhere on how this was orchestrated? This was such a wild success it seems like it should be the model for raising wages going forward  ).I wrote this post previously on how the whole $20/hr bill came about (though that was focused on the bread exemption). Cal Matters has done a couple articles which is what I'm mainly going off of: https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/09/california-fast-food-deal/ https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2023/09/minimum-wage-california/ You can also read the Bill Analysis for AB-1228: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billAnalysisClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1228 The analysis on 6/27/23 was when the bill was about joint liability. The one on 9/11/2023 was after it was about raising the minimum wage (and keeping the fast food council around), which I'm quoting part of below. The lawyer on staff picked the most telling statements  Argument in Support posted:According to the International Franchise Association, the National Restaurant Association and Save Local Restaurants, this agreement reflects the best interest of workers, local franchised restaurant owners and restaurant brands by: 1) protecting the franchise business model that provides opportunities for thousands of diverse Californians to become small business owners; 2) provides meaningful wage increases for workers; and 3) eliminates significant – and potentially existential – threats, costs, and regulatory burdens targeting local restaurants in California. Argument in Opposition posted:The American Association of Franchisees and Dealers writes in opposition arguing, “In significant disregard to hearing the voices of small business franchisee owners, the negotiated settlement was made between the International Franchise Association (IFA), the National Restaurant Association (NRA), and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). If signed, the result would be onerous to the franchisee community who would have to bear the primary brunt of this settlement, which would not only significantly increase labor costs thereby forcing franchisees to increase costs to consumers; this, in turn, also benefits franchisors with a larger royalty base.” They view this as a “prime example of behind-the-scenes political maneuvering, raising concerns about transparency and fairness.” 
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This is super helpful, thanks I kind of wish someone like Michael Moore would do a documentary about this though, like, "how to achieve a livable minimum wage through direct government action" this is just such a huge win and the fact that they did it mostly under the radar, with minimal public pushback  just amazing This really seems like something other states and industries should look at as a model going forward. Maybe they just got lucky, hard to say mikeycp posted:Vietnam is also a pretty big tourist destination for southeast Asia last I checked and that made the list Besides Nha trang and hai Long Bay, where? Hoi an is cute but I doubt it contributes more than two T90 tanks worth a year to the GDP. Hai Long Bay is a major tourist thing but I doubt they bring in more than $100mm/yr we paid like $500 for two people from the time we stepped off the train until we flew out of Hanoi All the money is in assembling electronics for canon, foxconn etc based on the uncountable white assembly warehouses lining both sides of the main coastal road as far as the eye can see
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Rust Martialis posted:Go make a list of non-capitalist countries and get back to us there are none
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Define "capitalism" first.
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Hadlock posted:Is there a write up somewhere on how this was orchestrated? This was such a wild success it seems like it should be the model for raising wages going forward In much of Europe, there is sectoral bargaining, where the union negotiates the minimum pay and benefits for everyone in their industry, whether it is a union shop or not. While a law exists to allow this in California, if the governor gives permission to a sector's unions, federal law prevents it. So the way that unions work here isn't the only way that it could work.
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fermun posted:In much of Europe, there is sectoral bargaining, where the union negotiates the minimum pay and benefits for everyone in their industry, whether it is a union shop or not. While a law exists to allow this in California, if the governor gives permission to a sector's unions, federal law prevents it. Can you expand upon this or give me something to Google for, this has been a recent interest of mine
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Hadlock posted:Can you expand upon this or give me something to Google for, this has been a recent interest of mine This is an overview comparing the Nordic model of sectoral bargaining to the fast food minimum wage law that just went into effect. Should provide you something to search for further too. https://www.peoplespolicyproject.or...C%20and%20more.
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I finally got my ca middle tax refund, only took almost two years and it becoming more complicated because I had to prove that I was in CA when the first card got sent
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BeAuMaN posted:$20/hr bill what do you think its costs to live a life where money is no object? 3 billion?
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my tax refund on my $60,000 a year income
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Should I move away from Gotham City? Why corruption? Why so dirty? Why robber gangs roaming? Oh wait, I'm describing San Francisco But really why burger and fries $30 and $100,000+ income = family "poverty?" ... Where Batman?
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GentleReject posted:Should I move away from Gotham City? I keep running into barriers in various facets of my life that are constructed around the idea that $100k is a lot of money for a yearly income. It is better than lower values, for sure, but it isn’t house and 2 kids kinda money in costal California. Apparently housing starts are trending down, so it is only going to get worse.
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Cactus Ghost posted:in real life a billionaire vigilante would just murder suicide a series a meeting People doing series A generally because they're a self starter and don't have the connections to raise money via their "old money" friends why are you blowing up people of modest means
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