CPColin posted:

And plastic bags are better? Do you have any reusable canvas or recycled plastic bags?

Papercut posted:

So keep a tote in your trunk, this is not hard.

CPColin posted:

In SLO County, the stores charge you ten cents per paper bag, so be thankful they're free where you are? Or pay a few bucks, once, for a reusable bag?

FRINGE posted:

They work fine, unless you have some legitimate disorder with your hands and need to tie a bag to your wrist.

Those plastic bags are one of the worst plastic things that get dumped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_debris#Nurdles_and_plastic_bags

CopperHound posted:

Thankfully, due to our initiative system, he doesn't have to until after the next election cycle.

Maybe enough people will be confused by the yes means no / no means yes that he will not have to endure the slight inconvenience for several more years.

FRINGE posted:

Yeah. Theyre for carrying the bag not dragging it around on the ground.

Does a paper bag need a "this end up" sign on its side or something?

Kobayashi posted:

What was the verdict on eggs? I see organic, free range, and cage free. Brown and white. Regular and jumbo. So many goddamn choices.

Zeitgueist posted:

30 years until Los Angeles, a city that's probably a top 30 world economy on it's own, gets an okay metro rail system

CopperHound posted:

I had to stop using my turn signal to change lanes in San Francisco while driving a big work van. Every signal is an invitation to close up the gap I'm trying to get into. gently caress that poo poo. Now I just squeeze in wherever I can fit. If you try being a courteous driver there, you arn't going to move. It is a tragedy of commons

Sydin posted:

My old university has:
1. A Subway on campus.
2. A Subway half a block off the east side of campus.
3. A Subway one block off the north side of campus.
4. A Subway three blocks off the west side of campus.
5. A Subway five blocks off the west side of campus. Yes, 4 and 5 are two blocks from one another, but on opposite sides of the major street.
6. A Subway three blocks further west from Subway #5.
7. A Subway two blocks north from Subway #4.

All of them are still open. In fact, #3 there used to be a Quiznos, but shut down about 3-4 years ago and became a Subway, which is still there today.

nm posted:

^^^^^^^^^
I bet Jerry Brown would sign that.


Absolutely.
Actually, a great protest would be if the UC students went to his grave and pissed on it.

FRINGE posted:

The only area on the west coast that is hard to distinguish from New Jersey. The OC.



Its a cultural desert.

FRINGE posted:

You can tell how lovely the OC is because of how desperately people need to defend it to feel ok about themselves.

You can talk poo poo about SD, LA, Malibu, Ventura, SB, SLO ... no one says anything. ..But the precious OC! Oh my!

Bobby Digital posted:

Space-Bird posted:

I have someone in my building who smokes like the dankest OG Kush ever + ground up tires, and it seeps up into my apartment around Midnight, 4 am, and 6 am...it constantly wakes me up and I think I have an electrical fire. I've had to buy multiple air purifiers to deal with it. I applaud anyone who makes the effort to smoke on the street or in a public space.....just don't do it in your bathroom in a multi-unit building. Cigarette smoke on the other hand has become entirely laughable to me, I swear whatever this person is smoking....oh my god...

Leperflesh posted:

I'd like to see the results of a poll question that said something like "Growing alfalfa hay uses up about 15 percent of California's water - about 100 billion gallons of water a year. About 70 percent of alfalfa grown in California is used in dairies as animal feed, and a good portion of the rest is exported to land-poor Asian countries like Japan. Considering alfalfa is the most water-intensive crop in California, and considering it's not important as a food crop, shouldn't California cut back on alfalfa growth, to conserve water during this terrible drought?"

That's exactly the sort of push-polling that results in massive swings in opinion poll results. But it's also the only way to ask a question and get an actually-informed answer, because most of the time you're asking a question of someone who is ignorant of the facts surrounding the issue. What use is an uninformed opinion? Obviously they're critically important when there's an actual election, but there's no nationwide election on how to resolve California's water crisis. And the whole point of electing representatives to make these decisions is that those full-time representatives are supposed to become fully informed of the issues and make informed decisions so we the public don't have to become experts on everything.

Leperflesh posted:

It's a question that contains no inaccurate facts, but which does not contain reasonable counterarguments against the meaning of those facts. It's biased only in that if someone knew nothing at all about the situation, they'd almost definitely agree with the conclusion the question is pushing.

That's why I said explicitly that it would be push-polling.

The real problem is that people's opinions are so easily manipulated. It makes a lot of opinion polls - hell, I'd say most polls - next to worthless. If you can get past the press releases and media interpretations and get a hold of the actual questions asked, you can usually discover all kinds of bias inherent in the phrasing of the questions and (especially, when they're offered) multiple-choice answers.

...which goes back to, hmm, a lot of Americans think farms are important. No kidding! That's worthless information until you've verified that the Americans you're asking are actually even vaguely aware of the details of California's water usage system, what kinds of farming absorb the most water and why, the nature of corporate farming, and how the profit incentives built into the current system actually encourage terrible water usage.

computer parts posted:

Effectively yes.

Usually people don't care about the race of professionals/upper class folks, since at worst they're "one of the good ones". The exception for that is Jews, who have a unique relationship.

CopperHound posted:

Welcome to the dystopic future where LA is more progressive than San Francisco.

paranoid randroid posted:

i might care more for In-n-Out if every single one in LA county wasnt, without fail, jammed to capacity like the last helicopter out of Saigon from start of business to closing every single day

lancemantis posted:

Honestly I've always felt In n' Out fries were pretty sub-par on their own; burgers? ok; shakes? pretty good

I just go to local places if I want that stuff

Jaxyon posted:

If only.

Jaxyon posted:

I had a chat with an older lady the other day who was like "I live in a rent controlled apartment a block from the beach in Santa Monica for $1000/mo, I'm going to die there". And also told me stories about how the landlords dont repair anything and kick people out for anything.

She was driving for Uber.

Sydin posted:

Daily reminder that Republicans are pathologically obsessed with proving California is actually a secret hellscape with a failing economy and no freedumbs because acknowledging otherwise means the bulk of what they hold true wrt social and economic policy is wrong.