Bizarro Watt posted:I think a big factor in the opinions against the strike from the students was that these events happen all the time. I'm pro-union but shutting down access to campus is going to piss off people that would otherwise be sympathetic. People have classes to attend, teach, and lab experiments to run. For the last strike, I didn't even bother to try and get to lab that day, but I heard plenty of anecdotes from others who did. Yes, people that would otherwise be sympathetic until they have to suffer inconvenience. Ie people whose sympathies do not run very deep at all. You have problems on your campus which go way beyond intermittent closures. You either support the strikers or you don't. Not that each and every strike is worthy of support, but regardless of whether you're generally pro-union, it does not sound like you support these particular strikers. There's exactly one and only one way to negotiate with your employer in the same way he negotiates with you: by halting productivity. Since privatization of the university, it's absolutely no different from what happens at a factory picket. They chose that arrangement, not us. e: But trying to shut down the uni in absence of a general strike, with general backing from the student body is not going to work. I agree that it seems dumb and counterproductive. agarjogger fucked around with this message at 17:25 on May 1, 2014 |
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I don't think things are that bad for them at all right now, most of them have a reasonable expectation of a house before thirty. It's when the inevitable surplus of STEM hits that we're going to see some seriously pissed-off MechE grads. This surplus being so completely inevitable because no one will shut the gently caress up about the certainty of these degrees, and will not shut up until its five years too late. e: Just look at what's happened to law school grads, and apply that to every single profession Obama has heartily recommended because it's conventional wisdom. Don't be surprised if we have two million loving plumbers come out of trade school, and you can get your whole system routed for $20. Apprenticeship worked. Whatever this poo poo is now, just completely doesn't and is going to burn a stark number of eager beavers. agarjogger fucked around with this message at 20:45 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 20:31
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I feel like today's unions are pretty self-absorbed and terminally limited in scope and vision, and cannot even attempt coherency because they might accidentally make a capitalist critique, which is of course unthinkable. A new inclusive and trans-sector union would probably do America well, if joining the established international ones gives rubes the heebie-jeebies.
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May 1, 2014 21:15
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Dusseldorf posted:I don't know anyone under thirty who bought in California in general. Oh my god your loving state and it's loving real estate market. I've made it painfully obvious that I'm an outsider. Though damned if your state's moguls, developers, and speculators haven't thoroughly colonized Colorado.
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May 1, 2014 21:28
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Kobayashi posted:This is so true, and so sad. Anyone who thinks the Bay Area is the last bastion of progressive values should read up on last year's BART strike. The union got its rear end kicked in the court of public opinion. Management would have broken the union outright had two workers not been killed during the strike. I don't even feel like there's any excuse for suffering from this delusion. San Francisco is a major city in the United States, and a finance capitol no less. What chance does it have of being genuinely progressive.
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May 1, 2014 23:16
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Was wikipedia down? That makes me wonder if Londoners know anything at all about this country. I guess only the mythologized versions of cities make it out of the US intact. Makes me insanely curious about what the author might write about LA.
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May 1, 2014 23:32
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Telesphorus posted:The high ratio of conservatives among STEM majors was the first thing that surprised about the UC system. Probably because they were more likely to come from high income families and (of course) less likely to take any social justice classes. The d&d thread about this was called Terrible Engineering Political Views. It was, believe it or not, somewhat contentious.
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May 1, 2014 23:40
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Being socially liberal almost just means mind your own goddamned business, or be busy enough not to care. Being economically left is slightly more taxing and I cringe whenever I meet a libertarian feminist. Yes you're feminist, you're a woman. Yes you're LGBTQ-friendly, possibly because you have LGBTQ friends. You're an environmentalist? Well you do loving live in it. So far, no smug points awarded at all. Like, you could certainly be more of an rear end in a top hat, thank you for not being one I suppose. This is the Republican way of being made to care about a thing (a la Republican congressman whose mind suddenly blossomed when his son came out), and it's too slow to be useful.
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May 2, 2014 00:32
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Shbobdb posted:Not to be "that guy" but since you aren't in California, can I ask what you are hoping to achieve by posting here? Most of D&D is about broader movement/ideological issues (which are super important) but given this thread's "local" focus I'm not sure what your position brings. I agree with what you are saying, so what? So what? I thought that last post was pretty CA-relevant. Lots of people posting here will have no connection to the state and only a passing interest in the place. We're honestly here to keep you fucks from turning this into In-N-Out chat, yet again. I have an interest in California and have spent a lot of time there. Since to understand California is to understand Reagan is to understand where we are as a country now.
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May 2, 2014 01:17
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Shbobdb posted:I'm not sure that "As goes Orange County, so goes the Country" makes sense. Otherwise, we'd have squandered a Democratic Supermajority and gone back to a brutal deadlock where nothing good happens. California is politically, far and away the most interesting state. The oligarchs of every possible industry, the water battles, the hateful political divisions between the inlanders and the coastals, the prisons, the marine/army/AF/Naval bases, the Big One. It is the modern United States moreso than any other state, and if you could only pick out one to try to get a handle on the whole country, it would have to be yours. Come friend, this thread could be so much more than which freeways you all sat around on today.
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May 2, 2014 01:36
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Trabisnikof posted:My favorites are the ones that have been up forever, including the classic "CONGRESS CREATED DUSTBOWL". If you don't know where these come from (or couldn't guess), this guy does a write-up on the Central Valley. quote:Water = Jobs
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May 20, 2014 07:07
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Telesphorus posted:(I'm saying this is as a detached, withdrawn observer, not as an angry, jealous Occupy protester). you're saying this as a mean, dumb oval office
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May 23, 2014 10:16
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can somebody go ahead and add him to the First to the Wall pastebin? I'm on my phone. that sounds like a really lovely place, I'll enjoy squatting there when property is redistributed based on quantity and ideological purity of a citizen's forum posts.
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Mayor Dave posted:Besides, the Sriracha factory story only matters because of how aggressively Texas and Ted Cruz in particular were lobbying for the factory to move. If Gov. Perry comes to blue state TV and radio stations again with his ads encouraging businesses to leave the state, I hope this time the stations can find the guts to defend their communities and refuse him. I didn't think stations had any obligation to take ads if they think it's just going to piss off their audience. It is directed to people who own factories or laser consulting firms, or one of the minority of businesses that can be relocated. Everyone else works for these people and none of them want to be forced to give up Chicago for Dallas. Why even agree to run the ads, they're inflammatory as hell. Stewart and Lewis Black's response was lovely. gently caress You Texas was a segment that made me cheer, and as a Chicagoan I tend towards dismissal of NYC.
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