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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Alkydere posted:

Oh, I knew there wasn't going to be any chance. It's just that I really, really do not want to look forward at how bad it's gonna be.
It's basically the worst-case scenario for Texas Dems.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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With 16% reporting, the governor's race looks like:

Abbott: 59.2%. Davis: 39.2%.

Context:

In comparison, the last race finished with Rick Perry at 54.97% and Bill White at 42.28%.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Oil! posted:

I voted for the reanimated corpse of the first President of the Republic of Texas and it looks like he lost too.
How any Texan could vote against Sam Houston is beyond me.

A shameful Texan.

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Abbott is leading in Harris and Bexar with more than 30 percent counting in each.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7lGGhHZSZs

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Nov 5, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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It's super bad because Davis was supposed to improve on White's performance, a signal that Texas was gradually turning purple and worth it for outside investors. Instead she's doing worse. Meltdown. Worst case scenario.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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She's still falling! It's a race to see how low she'll go. But a lot of the Travis votes haven't come in yet, it looks like.

computer parts posted:

Maybe running a bland white person in a minority-majority state is not the best strategy!
Yeah. She emerged in the first place as a crusading, progressive social warrior, which was exciting to progressives (a lot of them out of state). But she was also a waxwork, it turned out, and most Texans are concerned about bread-and-butter issues.

Democrats nationally bet the farm on women's issues, because of insulting things Republicans said last cycle which cost them seats. But because the Republicans have toned down the social stuff this time, doesn't rebound to the Dems' benefit. Abbott is winning with women, which will make the walls of the TDP's headquarters start vomiting.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Interesting thing: Austin might elect its first eco-socialist to the city council, Susana Almanza, who is leading in District 3.

Former Brown Beret, too.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Nov 5, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

She's the one running against her brother, right? I'm not sure if she'll be able to win the runoff, but I would be glad for her to. My friend in District 4 is going to be running against a crazy Alex Jones-ite in a runoff, so I'm hoping Austin doesn't get to Weird and he can win easy.

Also we so far have a 25% turnout for our city council races, which sounds bad until you realize that last time it was like 2%.
She's the one. A friend of mine has been pounding pavement for her for weeks. The nice thing about 10-1 is that you get a more diverse council, instead of the same establishment NIMBY liberals. There will still be establishment liberals, but maybe an actual leftist, an actual Republican (maybe). That makes for better politics.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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So here's the view from a conservative think tanker in Austin:

quote:

Here’s your rundown of just how big the Greg Abbott victory is in TX-Gov this evening. Whatever side you’re on, it’s a historic, dominating win — nearly a 20-point margin between him and Wendy Davis at this writing with c.60% of precincts in. All the following numbers are subject to change, of course. Nevertheless:

Let’s start with the cities, which together with the border regions constitute the core of the Texas Democratic base:

Abbott is winning all of metro Houston including the core of Harris County.

Abbott is winning all of metro San Antonio including the core of Bexar County.

Abbott is winning metro Dallas-Fort Worth except Dallas County.

Abbott is winning metro Austin except Travis County.

Greg Abbott presently has three of the big five Texas cities. Keep in mind that only one of them, Fort Worth, is generally expected to go Republican in any given election. So, this is a remarkable outcome, especially given the supermajority-minority status of both Harris and Bexar.

On demography, the left-coalition hopes for a decent showing were openly pinned upon women and Hispanics. How’d Abbott do with them?

Abbott wins Hispanic men by a single point — 50-49.

Abbott gets up to 44% of all Hispanics.

Abbott wins women 54-45.

The age breakdown is interesting too. Here’s how Abbott does:

Loses 18-29 by 1 point.

Loses 30-44 by 3 points.

Wins 45-64 by 33 points.

Wins 65+ by 42 points.

So basically we see the traditional Texas Republican supermajority with Anglos and men married to a strong Hispanic showing, a win with women, a blowout in over-45s, and remarkable inroads into the urban areas. That’s what this effort looks like, and — need it be said — this is what a comprehensive defeat of the Obama for America machine looks like. Because that is exactly what this is.
Emphasis added.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Xen Tricks posted:

How does a state with a ballooning hispanic population overwhelmingly elect a racist and whatever Abbot is?
Exhibit A:



Exhibit B:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAL6sX-5ZSs

First Latina first lady of Texas.

VitalSigns posted:

I don't know, how does a campaign against women's health win women by 10 points?

:smithicide:
Abortion ranks near the bottom in polling about what Texans find important.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Nov 5, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Her campaign was such a cynical and demagogic attempt at creating a cult of personality, when she was such a waxwork, I couldn't. I abstained. I voted for Van de Putte, though.

Badger of Basra posted:

I voted for Spicybrown.
I *almost* did that. Mostly because her name is Spicybrown.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:



Poor guy. These are just Travis results.
Aw. I should've voted for him. There's something about immigrants and pie-in-the-sky campaigns for high office. I don't think America has crushed their spirits yet.

Ethiopian dude.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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If I was Julian Castro I'd be angling for a vice presidential nomination.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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ReidRansom posted:

He's cabinet level now. HUD Secretary. He was likely tapped for that specifically to give him a shortcut around the statewide race thing.
Yup. And search around for stories about dinner meetings between Castro and the Clinton people. And Castro's speech at the 2012 DNC. Plus, you have to factor in the Hispanic GOPers like Cruz and Rubio running for president.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Randandal posted:

Oh that's weird lol I didn't know that had happened. Still think it's racial pandering but whatevs
Yeah. But for what it's worth, the Democrats see him as another Henry Cisneros, former mayor of San Antonio who became HUD secretary in the Clinton administration. Was talked about becoming Gore's veep in 2000, but Cisneros got himself indicted over dodgy dealings involving money and a mistress.

Shifty Pony posted:

The mayoral map is pretty depressing too:

Wow look at that. Interesting how it breaks down along racial lines. West-side whites for Adler, east-side Hispanics for Martinez.

I'm not super-into Martinez, but Adler struck me as someone who was more interested in telling people what they want to hear.

Also watch these ads. Oh God the Adler add... so twee! Agggghh. Gack.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2014-10-17/10-1-ticker-election-updates/

The Martinez ad is great.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Texas Democrats remind me of the opening scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Lots of flailing around, and every time he thinks he's going to make it ... KA-WHAMMO down he goes again, and even more spectacular than the last time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9_m8eVdU2U

fade5 posted:

In interesting news, and in contrast to the constant string of Republican victories, Republican Susan Reed is no longer Bexar County's District Attorney; she was defeated by Democrat Nicholas “Nico” LaHood. Susan Reed has been DA for 16 years, so this is a bit of a shock; I thought LaHood was just a sacrificial lamb. The win is partly due to greater than average turnout in Bexar county, but also largely due to Thomas J. Henry, who dumped an absolute shitload of money into the race.
http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/LaHood-defeats-Reed-for-Bexar-district-attorney-5871454.php

Hey, if the Kochs can dump shitloads of money into races to get their guys elected, then turnabout is fair play.:colbert:
Yeah I read about that in the Tribune totally randomly. That was a weird thing because it was a gobsmacking amount for a DA, as you said. Apparently Henry thought LaHood would crack down harder on child abuse, which Bexar County has a high rate. But you wonder if he's basically buying himself a DA.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Nov 6, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Dante Logos posted:

I took it a good number of BGT people took the election results badly. Where does the organization go from here?
There's a Tribtalk podcast from the next morning that's interesting. One of the problems with BGTX is that they mobilized the right by coming into Texas and saying "hey, we're the Obama machine and we're going to come here and turn Texas blue!" And then closely associating themselves with the Davis campaign, which never knew how to handle them. So they really did make the election a referendum on Obama.

The other thing is that Texas Dems really have nothing to lose at this point. So Evan Smith wondered why they don't just run hard to the left on a roll-up-the-sleeves, barn burning progressive populist campaign next time. Because why not?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Trabisnikof posted:

The TDP is entirely a losers' guild at this point. That is to say, the drama gets the fiercest when there's nothing of value to fight over. They take a "you come to us" attitude about candidates and races.
A friend of mine who works in politics described to once that the TDP is comfortable where they are. Old-timers in urban and border seats who have been sitting there forever and are perfectly happy with the status quo.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Also Evan Smith went lol at "smartass West Austin Democrats" or something like that who voted for Patrick in the primaries because Leticia had it in the bag, and Patrick was the opponent they wanted. Well, they got what they wished for.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Badger of Basra posted:

Did anyone actually do this? I know Democrats who voted for Dewhurst but none who voted for Patrick.
Don't know.

computer parts posted:

Another reminder that Wendy Davis lost half of the 18-29 vote.
And Dan Patrick won Hispanic men 53-46.

:captainpop:

Randandal posted:

Lol what an idiot, but maybe he's playing the long chess game the same way I was when I voted for Cruz in the primary. If a Republican is going to win no matter what, why not try to get the craziest Republican available so that the GOP brand might be hopelessly damaged by the next election cycle?

If the Legislature goes as hard right as some fear it will, then you actually will have an entire generation of Hispanics who hate the GOP irreversibly. They need to back up their words with action though, and it's gotta be some real racism, not just closing up the border like it's supposed to have been all along.
The thing is, though, is that the Republicans are really, really good at message control in Texas. Dan Patrick noped out of saying drastic things during the campaign. They're more disciplined and savvy than this thinking suggests.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Nov 7, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Shifty Pony posted:

PODER is a strange bird. It started as a group opposed to the East Side getting shat on by industry and helped get a whole bunch of tank farms moved away from residential areas. Now it is really hard to pin down exactly what it exists for. Ostensibly it is anti-gentrificaion but that seems to be defined as "whatever Susan Almanza personally dislikes this month". Recently their target has been urban farms.
Coverage of which makes her supporters very angry. I remember there was some blowup on my Facebook with PODER supporters calling the Austin Chronicle racist because it appeared to not sufficiently love Susana Almanza enough.

Which was weird because their evidence for this was the Chronicle giving favorable coverage to her brother Pio.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Dec 18, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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zoux posted:

The thing is is that the legislation that has been floated, and likely will be again, limits the privilege to people 21 and over, so there goes a quarter of all students. I would be shocked if the number of students CCing on UT campus is in the double digits. There might be some college republican types that carry just to carry after it passes, but in a few years, almost no one will be armed. This is all a bullshit non-issue drummed up by NRA legislative consultants who believe the fight for the second amendment must continue on all fronts at all times.
This is how I see it, too. And it applies to those who think there's a huge danger inherent in 21+ students being allowed -- or being prohibited -- from carrying. Fact is, if you go most places that's not on campus, people can legally carry a concealed weapon. And even then it's not exactly the most common thing. Most people don't pack heat. And most people don't think about it.

Svanja posted:

I do not want anyone carrying guns on campus (I'm at Texas State). It absolutely would not make me feel any safer. I can't fathom how they think it would make campus security's job any easier.
Eh. I dunno. There's an argument about just not wanting concealed weapons anywhere, which is fine. But the opposition to the proposal seems to revolve around the idea that campuses are fundamentally different kinds of places than the rest of the city. I find that dubious. I know Texas State is somewhat of a hotbed for the concealed carry types, and it's a more conservative campus.

Though I have to say I've never been convinced by the pro-carry types who say it *will* make campuses safer. The weapons are concealed. Few people carry them. There's no way to rationally judge your level of safety vis-a-vis concealed carry in an environment like that. It seems crazy to me to think you're safer or less safe depending on something you can't actually evaluate. Even if it's allowed, you can't *assume* anyone is carrying. As a security "solution" to campus shooters, it's insane.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Jan 28, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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In my high school we had an assembly featuring some guys who'd rip phone books and coke cans in half and preached Jesus.

! it was The Power Team. They were literally on Walker Texas Ranger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI-MUOZq_-E

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 4, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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San Antonio is definitely the least pretentious (overall) of the major cities. Dallas still has that #1 spot.

Yes, even more than Austin.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Randandal posted:

Austin is by far the most pretentious city in Texas, I'm not sure how anybody could live talk to people from both cities and not come to that conclusion.
Austin has smug liberals but Dallas takes pretentiousness to an art form. Have lived in both cities. But I'm mainly referring to Dallas League of Republican Voters Capital-D Dallas silver Mercedes megachurch pretentiousness.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 8, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:

I never got that. At some level these guys have to realize that the Feds, with their jets, tanks, and cruise missiles, do not care about how many handguns or AR-15's with heavy barrels for shooting the blue helmets when they come you have.

At all. If the feds ever wanted to take our guns away in some crazy nut future we would be able to do jack poo poo about it.
I think we tend to overstate the ability of the U.S. military to quash insurgencies. Jets, tanks and cruise missiles are really good at defeating conventional stand-up armies, but in an insurgency you're fighting an enemy that blends in with the civilian population.

So I think the logic for the Second Amendment stands.

But what I don't get is how so many of the people who are really insistent about that -- and actively prepare for it -- are in absolutely no physical condition to jog down the loving block, let alone fight a war with anyone. I wanna say to these guys: You're going to fight the government? Please. You have trouble fighting over a parking space at the Golden Corral.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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zoux posted:

Yeah quash insurgencies in countries that are entirely jungle or mountain. Not in countries with extremely well developed infrastructures that facilitate the movement of troops and armor.
Eh. Not to belabor it. I can't imagine it happening in the U.S., anyways. But the U.S. fought in Baghdad for years, a city of 5+ million, and never truly pacified it with military means. It took a political solution (which ended up being unsustainable oh well).

I think Baghdad might be the largest city in terms of population the U.S. ever fought a war in. You scale up to some American cities, and there's no historical precedent.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 25, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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People say shutting down traffic just makes people angry, but that can be good I think. Basically the tactic is to be so annoying that people eventually cave just so you stop bothering them. The problem is making it clear what they're supposed to cave in to.

Anyways, a friend of mine who works for a left-wing nonprof in the city hates it how all the activist groups have their rallies at the capitol. "Unless you have 10,000 people or more do to it somewhere else." Because optics. The huge building and vast lawn makes you look small and insignificant. Especially on the weekends when there's nobody in the building. The protesters stage a die-in and the only people watching are other protesters. If they hadn't blocked I-35 no one would have even heard there was a protest going on.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Sep 20, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I'd note that I don't think Houston is exceptionally bigoted (at least compared to Dallas-Fort Worth), the difference is that the city limits of Houston consume a lot of the suburbs which are far more conservative. Once you get outside Dallas city limits and into the sprawl where 2/3rds of the population lives, anti-discrimination protections evaporate.

Toronto is another city like Houston, very different obviously, but a similar dynamic where they annexed a bunch of suburbs and found themselves with Rob Ford as mayor.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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e_angst posted:

The whole "Austin is so white" line is concern-trolling bullshit from people outside of Austin who want to try and find some kind of flaw with the place. Meanwhile they are sitting in cities that are fully under the thumb of evangelical churches, real estate developers, and/or the oil industry. Or they're in suburbs that as so segregated they make Austin look like the Bronx (hint: don't try and talk about how Dallas is so much more diverse than Austin when you actually live in Plano).
I've heard that in Houston. But oh, people in Austin say that too. This is bound up in gentrification, which is a more intense issue in the city because of East Austin's proximity to downtown. It's a very real issue. But there's another fact: Austin is actually becoming less white (or less Anglo) every year. The city is becoming more Hispanic and there's no signs of that slowing anytime soon.

But what's the beef with Plano? It is arguably more diverse than Austin. But that's a testament to how much Plano has changed in the past 10 years.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/texass-cities-one-big-dysfunctional-family/

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Nov 13, 2015

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Numlock posted:

Have they ever been to Houston? "White" is not how I would characterize the city at all.
Misread. I've heard people in Houston say that to me when learning I'm from Austin.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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^ Yeah, that.

oldpainless posted:

Does anyone in this thread actually like Texas?
I get questions like that from people when I travel.

About Texans? My answer is that most things about Texans you've read are true, but this doesn't come through in everyday life so much because most people just mind their own business and go about their day like anywhere else.

Like the person driving next to you on the highway might be anticipating the imminent Rapture and destruction of all nonbelievers. But you'd never know it.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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The twee! It burns!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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computer parts posted:

It's almost as though the point was that Austin is no better than the rest of Texas, not that Austin is uniquely horrible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences

And there's a sort of city-sized nationalism that plays a role. People attach part of their identity to where they live and get mad if other people bash it, which is understandable. Despite being very liberal when I've been in other states and someone talks poo poo about Texas I get uncomfortable.

I almost turn into this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_PwD0gOSo

And related to this is a need to denigrate your rivals who are close by to boost yourself. I think this is really monkey-brained stuff, like the apes fighting at the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's just not sensible.

enraged_camel posted:

If you don't think Austin is better than the rest of Texas, you're either a religious gun-nut (Dallas) or a pollution-loving oil & gas worker (Houston).
The irony of Dallas is that it's megachurch land but also has the best gay neighborhood in the state. This makes Austin people's heads go all pear-shaped.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Sheng-ji Yang posted:

I really only hear the "blue in a sea of red" thing from non-Texans who moved here from out of state to justify moving to Texas/why Austin is ok despite Texas Bad.

Personally I grew up in Houston and have lived in San Antonio and Austin, and while I prefer Austin I like them all for what they are.
It's funny because I'm in the process of moving from Austin to DFW. But it's for almost all boring getting-older reasons (save money, be closer to family, etc.) and my work lets me do that easily. The other funny thing ... I won't actually save much money, at least in the short term. It will add up in the long-run, but urban housing costs are a problem state-wide. It's a bubble and we're living in it.

Austin has some quirks but the differences in cities is often talked about as differences between the people who live in them. I used to think more like that, but looking back I realize we highlight those difference for pretty ugly, vain reasons. Fact is that people are pretty much the same everywhere. The real differences are material, spatial, etc.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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zoux posted:

Great Observer article about Stickland's Tea Party rally this week, as well as the broader temp of the House.
Hooks is great.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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The number one issue affecting Austin is affordability. Without a doubt. I've had several friends leave because they encountered this dilemma: To afford Austin's luxuries requires working more hours, which means less time to enjoy the very things you're paying a premium to do. The result is to say gently caress it and move, where at least you'll have more money, or more time.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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PostNouveau posted:

Pardon me, but gently caress Texas A&M and their creepy fake army that worships a dog.
The time I visited College Station, I got the impression that this is what Texas would look like if it was ruled by a totalitarian regime that was really into football. The huge, Soviet-looking buildings and jackbooted (literally) seniors added to the whole vibe.

And there was chalk graffiti in a pedestrian tunnel which said "Life goals =" and a stick-figure drawing of a two-parent, two-children family. My oh my, this is very different from Austin...

It was pretty lovely in its way, actually. They deffo take advantage of "space."

oldpainless posted:

How ironic that such a liberal hippie city can only be truly appreciated by the rich conservative capitalists thst they hate.

oldpainless posted:

I don't know what that word means
Same here. I'm frankly at a loss what to do or what's even politically possible. Gentrification seems to me an issue like immigration, where both sides are in effect saying "build a wall" but it's really not that simple.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jan 21, 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I live in Austin.

Does anyone want a free microwave.

Otherwise I'm giving it to anarchists.

You have one week.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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You've given me an idea...

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

make a cyclotron
and

fade5 posted:

Give it to the anarchists.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Ahh Dallas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqnqpAJavUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSDWLUaheY

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