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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

Last time I used Numbers it didn't even have the ability to do regression analysis or maybe it did but it was so hidden it was awful.

neither does excel for os x

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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

nah what you want is to free yourselves from the confines of the file system

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Jun 9, 2009

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Jun 9, 2009

PleasureKevin posted:

if they're mobile first, butt first and all about productivity, how does the xbox fit?

I also want to share some additional thoughts on Xbox and its importance to Microsoft.

As a large company, I think it's critical to define the core, but it's important to make smart choices on other businesses in which we can have fundamental impact and success. The single biggest digital life category, measured in both time and money spent, in a mobile-first world is gaming.

We are fortunate to have Xbox in our family to go after this opportunity with unique and bold innovation. Microsoft will continue to vigorously innovate and delight gamers with Xbox. Xbox is one of the most-revered consumer brands, with a growing online community and service, and a raving fan base. We also benefit from many technologies flowing from our gaming efforts into our productivity efforts - core graphics and NUI in Windows, speech recognition in Skype, camera technology in Kinect for Windows, Azure butt enhancements for GPU simulation and many more.

Bottom line, we will continue to innovate and grow our fan base with Xbox while also creating additive business value for Microsoft.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Fabricated posted:

lol

actually; wasn't that mouse actually specifically designed for Win8 and the surface or something?

windows 8 mouse thing


regular rear end mouse with start button

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

New SKUs already hitting the ground!*

*available this holiday season

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOgOP_aqqtg

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

oh my god i just noticed the windows 7 icons in the windows 8 area
jfc

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

isn't the precise point of having the calendar and mail tiles be that big so that they can be showing information on them

why are they just big and blank in those screenshots

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

why are there windows 8 apps in the legacy quick launch menu


why the gently caress is the pc settings icon that big

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Fabricated posted:

For some reason Microsoft just never sees fit to update all of the icons used by the base OS. Windows 9 will probably have some slightly new visual style to it by the time it comes out so it'll be even more of a mess visually

nono

flat icons open in the metro environment
3d icons open in the legacy desktop

they just have flat icons living in both metro and legacy, and 3d icons living in both metro and legacy

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

qirex posted:

I think the win 95 launch broke their brains and they've been trying to recapture that ever since even though most of their customers don't want a reinvented computer experience every 3-5 years

you can make shitloads of money without ever being cool or exciting but marketers gotta market so if you hire literally tens of thousands of them this is going to happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPv8PPl7ANU

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

holy poo poo even native win8 doesn't have proper multitouch and smooth scrolling? really?? the platform made specifically for touch and then crammed into the desktop doesn't natively support touch?

uh

it's still running windows~

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

remember that time microsoft's board let a lame-duck ceo make a multi billion dollar acquisition before having chosen the new ceo + new company strategy?

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Hello there,

Microsoft’s strategy is focused on productivity and our desire to help people “do more.” As the Microsoft Devices Group, our role is to light up this strategy for people. We are the team creating the hardware that showcases the finest of Microsoft’s digital work and digital life experiences, and we will be the confluence of the best of Microsoft’s applications, operating systems and cloud services.

To align with Microsoft’s strategy, we plan to focus our efforts. Given the wide range of device experiences, we must concentrate on the areas where we can add the most value. The roots of this company and our future are in productivity and helping people get things done. Our fundamental focus – for phones, Surface, for meetings with devices like PPI, Xbox hardware and new areas of innovation -- is to build on that strength. While our direction in the majority of our teams is largely unchanging, we have had an opportunity to plan carefully about the alignment of phones within Microsoft as the transferring Nokia team continues with its integration process.

It is particularly important to recognize that the role of phones within Microsoft is different than it was within Nokia. Whereas the hardware business of phones within Nokia was an end unto itself, within Microsoft all our devices are intended to embody the finest of Microsoft’s digital work and digital life experiences, while accruing value to Microsoft’s overall strategy. Our device strategy must reflect Microsoft’s strategy and must be accomplished within an appropriate financial envelope. Therefore, we plan to make some changes.

We will be particularly focused on making the market for Windows Phone. In the near term, we plan to drive Windows Phone volume by targeting the more affordable smartphone segments, which are the fastest growing segments of the market, with Lumia. In addition to the portfolio already planned, we plan to deliver additional lower-cost Lumia devices by shifting select future Nokia X designs and products to Windows Phone devices. We expect to make this shift immediately while continuing to sell and support existing Nokia X products.

To win in the higher price segments, we will focus on delivering great breakthrough products in alignment with major milestones ahead from both the Windows team and the Applications and Services Group. We will ensure that the very best experiences and scenarios from across the company will be showcased on our products. We plan to take advantage of innovation from the Windows team, like Universal Windows Apps, to continue to enrich the Windows application ecosystem. And in the very lowest price ranges, we plan to run our first phones business for maximum efficiency with a smaller team.

We expect these changes to have an impact to our team structure. With our focus, we plan to consolidate the former Smart Devices and Mobile Phones business units into one phone business unit that is responsible for all of our phone efforts. Under the plan, the phone business unit will be led by Jo Harlow with key members from both the Smart Devices and Mobile Phones teams in the management team. This team will be responsible for the success of our Lumia products, the transition of select future Nokia X products to Lumia and for the ongoing operation of the first phone business.

As part of the effort, we plan to select the appropriate business model approach for our sales markets while continuing to offer our products in all markets with a strong focus on maintaining business continuity. We will determine each market approach based on local market dynamics, our ability to profitably deliver local variants, current Lumia momentum and the strategic importance of the market to Microsoft. This will all be balanced with our overall capability to invest.

Our phone engineering efforts are expected to be concentrated in Salo, Finland (for future, high-end Lumia products) and Tampere, Finland (for more affordable devices). We plan to develop the supporting technologies in both locations. We plan to ramp down engineering work in Oulu. While we plan to reduce the engineering in Beijing and San Diego, both sites will continue to have supporting roles, including affordable devices in Beijing and supporting specific US requirements in San Diego. Espoo and Lund are planned to continue to be focused on application software development.

We plan to right-size our manufacturing operations to align to the new strategy and take advantage of integration opportunities. We expect to focus phone production mainly in Hanoi, with some production to continue in Beijing and Dongguan. We plan to shift other Microsoft manufacturing and repair operations to Manaus and Reynosa respectively, and start a phased exit from Komaron, Hungary.

In short, we will focus on driving Lumia volume in the areas where we are already successful today in order to make the market for Windows Phone. With more speed, we will build on our success in the affordable smartphone space with new products offering more differentiation. We’ll focus on acquiring new customers in the markets where Microsoft’s services and products are most concentrated. And, we’ll continue building momentum around applications.

We plan that this would result in an estimated reduction of 12,500 factory direct and professional employees over the next year. These decisions are difficult for the team, and we plan to support departing team members with severance benefits.

More broadly across the Devices team, we will continue our efforts to bring iconic tablets to market in ways that complement our OEM partners, power the next generation of meetings & collaboration devices and thoughtfully expand Windows with new interaction models. With a set of changes already implemented earlier this year in these teams, this means there will be limited change for the Surface, Xbox hardware, PPI/meetings or next generation teams.

We recognize these planned changes are broad and have very difficult implications for many of our team members. We will work to provide as much clarity and information as possible. Today and over the coming weeks leaders across the organization will hold town halls, host information sharing sessions and provide more details on the intranet.

The team transferring from Nokia and the teams that have been part of Microsoft have each experienced a number of remarkable changes these last few years. We operate in a competitive industry that moves rapidly, and change is necessary. As difficult as some of our changes are today, this direction deliberately aligns our work with the cross company efforts that Satya has described in his recent emails. Collectively, the clarity, focus and alignment across the company, and the opportunity to deliver the results of that work into the hands of people, will allow us to increase our success in the future.

Regards,

Stephen

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Hello there,

[11 PARAGRAPHS OF CORPORATE GOBBLEDYGOOK]

You're fired.

[3 MORE PARAGRAPHS]

Regards,

Stephen Elop

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

the only thing in there that vaguely resembles empathy for the people he's firing is "We recognize these planned changes are broad and have very difficult implications for many of our team members."

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

"plus sizing"

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

You Am I posted:

Is there any really blinding need to move from Office 2011 other than the year in its title?

Regressions in excel would be nice

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Oh here's something on my wish list for excel: support for pre 1900s dates

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

qirex posted:

[*]default paste behavior is "without formatting"


And this
And proper multitasking

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

the giveaway that it's not os x is the 500mb of ram

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Jun 9, 2009

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Jun 9, 2009

Sniep posted:

do microsoft stores actually sell computes yet or just surfaces and windows phones

they've always sold computers

and one of the rules is actually that vendors aren't allowed to put crapware on pcs sold in ms stores so it's the best place to buy a windows

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

homo punching bag posted:



if a computre janitor catches u jerkin it to this pic he dont even care. like he know exactly why u doin that poo poo. microsoft used to make quality

the day my intellimouse explorer died in one of the top 5 saddest days of my life

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Metrication posted:

which one loses the most money though?

the other thread is subsidising this thread's losses

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

they should leverage a strong consumer brand that's currently being unused imo

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Zune Browser

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

http://instagram.com/p/r2jjTdhQFx/

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Jun 9, 2009

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Jun 9, 2009

i'm the

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

im the windows 7 machine in the back
from the microsoft booth at gamescom last week:



(also note the nvidia driver pop-up thing, when the xbone actually has an amd chip)

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Dear Satya,

As I approach the six month mark of my retirement and your appointment as CEO, I have been reflecting on my life, my ongoing ownership of Microsoft stock, and my involvement with the company. I have reached some conclusions and wanted to share them with you. I know August is the key month during which the company starts to prepare the proxy statement for the next shareholders’ meeting, and so these thoughts are probably timely for that too.

First, Microsoft has been my life’s work and I am proud of that and excited by what I see in front of the company and this leadership team. There are challenges ahead but the opportunities are even larger. No company in the world has the mix of software skills, cloud skills, and hardware skills we have assembled. We draw talent as well as any company in the world. We have the profitability to invest in long-term opportunities and still deliver superior shorter term performance. You’re off to a bold and exciting start.

Microsoft will need to be bold and make big bets to succeed in this new environment. Writing great software is a tremendous accomplishment and selling software has been a fabulous business. In the mobile-first, cloud-first world, software development is a key skill, but success requires moving to monetization through enterprise subscriptions, hardware gross margins, and advertising revenues. Making that change while also managing the existing software business well requires a boldness and fearlessness that I believe the management team has. Our board must also support and encourage that fearlessness for shareholders to get the best performance from Microsoft. You must drive that.

I had not spent any time really contemplating my post-Microsoft life until my last day with the company. In the six months since leaving, I have become very busy. I see a combination of the Clippers, civic contribution, teaching and study taking a lot of time. I have confidence in our approach of mobile-first, cloud-first, and in our primary innovation emphasis on platforms and productivity and the building of capability in devices and services as core business drivers. I hold more Microsoft shares than anyone other than index funds and love the mix of profits, investments and dividends returned in our stock. I expect to continue holding that position for the foreseeable future.

Given my confidence and the multitude of new commitments I am taking on now, I think it would be impractical for me to continue to serve on the board, and it is best for me to move off. The fall will be hectic between teaching a new class and the start of the NBA season so my departure from the board is effective immediately.

I bleed Microsoft — have for 34 years and I always will. I continue to love discussing the company’s future. I love trying new products and sending feedback. I love reading about what is going on at the company. Count on me to keep ideas and inputs flowing. The company will move to higher heights. I will be proud, and I will benefit through my share ownership. I promise to support and encourage boldness by management in my role as a shareholder in any way I can.

All the best,

Steve

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Steve,

:byewhore:

Satya

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

wait no the response actually read

Steve,

First, thank you for all of your support during my transition this year and for the past 34 years. It’s been a great privilege to have worked with you and learned from you. Under your leadership, we created an incredible foundation that we continue to build on — and Microsoft will thrive in the mobile-first, cloud-first world.

While your insights and leadership will be greatly missed as part of the board, I understand and support your decision.

As you embark on your new journey, I am sure that you will bring the same boldness, passion and impact to your new endeavors that you brought to Microsoft, and we wish you incredible success. I also look forward to partnering with you as a shareholder.

On behalf of all of Microsoft and the Board of Directors, thank you.

Satya

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

pagancow posted:

they're called reputation management firms. search it.

for example, this entire reddit post history, from an account created one day after the xbone was announced: http://www.reddit.com/user/TempleOfTime?count=250&after=t1_ca4636b

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Sniep posted:

lol at microsoft tryharding to hard to get their BRANDS out there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjKCU0cWHCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talcGAOj9YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH21WrjXBBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1KEnWKk-L0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsiXfW75598&t=25s

i love the on-brand kickstand sounds in the last one :3:

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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009


how many files do you have in /Pictures/iCarly ?

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