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Notorious b.s.d. posted:netscape ldap, the original non-poo poo implementation, was open sourced a few years ago. as far as ldap goes it's significantly faster than ad and better under high loads. yeah, the problem with recommending a stack like that is even with proper documentation forget about ever being able to get someone else to admin your special snowflake implementation. it's a perfect model for a million cornercases based on what build of everything you managed to deploy initially. and who handles support? that's like four different "vendors" at least. i guess if it's your job to maintain it you're set for life, but it's not something you could really recommend to a client. the license savings would be offset by the amount you'd have to pay to get someone who could manage and maintain it seriously, those TCO studies MS does are bullshit, but this actually is a pretty big factor
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 05:45 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 01:02 |
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no this time it's different because the dream of the NC will never die
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 06:08 |
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Shaggar posted:thin clients were always junk for everything but the most specific use cases. now that desktops are so insanely cheap theres no reason to ever get a thin client over a desktop even if you use that desktop like a thin client for some users. this is true, but i'm not sure you're the best person to be saying this. your company deployed iMacs so that people could use them as Windows terminals through RDP when OSX still had the worlds worst RDP client
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 14:54 |
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it lacked RDP gateway support until this year and would freak out over certain system certificates when SSL auth was forced. also shared resources seemed to have a 50% chance of doing absolutely nothing across platforms. i didn't notice any stability issues either though
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 15:01 |
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i'm pretty sure there are companies that have been selling AIO RDP terminals running windows embedded for something like a decade now too. they used to use them at chapters bookstores here in canada
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 15:03 |
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yeah, they were thin clients. i think someone used to make them running MIPS and win2k with like 32MB ram too, way back when.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 15:06 |
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someone post the quote about how selling android is pissing in your pants to stay warm
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 18:02 |
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pram posted:remember when they hosed all early winpho adopters by making 7 and 8 completely different lol and despite having an extremely limited hardware ecosystem microsoft just couldn't port the new unified kernel to the older hardware, even for their flagship nokia phones they also made up some bullshit about new display resolutions being a limiting factor, then allowed hardware manufacturers to release low end winphones with exactly the same resolution they had forced everyone to use in winpho7
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2014 21:20 |
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they entered the market late, with a feature set slightly better than what apple had launched with three years earlier, then decided in less than a year that they were going to go a completely different direction and both the hardware and software stack were going to be rebuilt from the ground up. why the gently caress did they launch anything in 2010? because microsoft. gently caress, they would have made more money selling winmo 6.5 for another year
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2014 21:28 |
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:consider consider setting fire to your testicles. it will be rough;y as effective at interacting with the files you actually need to work with on a daily basis
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 02:00 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:there were approximately 0 users of wp7, so porting to old hardware would have benefited no one statistically speaking, i don't exist i had both a samsung focus and a lumia 800 infernal machines fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 28, 2014 |
# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 02:19 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:being exiled to do some weird skunkworks poo poo because they're too chickenshit to actually fire you doesn't sounds like a horrible fate to be honest what do you think your new divisions budget is going to look like in a year or two? it'll be you and the intern huddled around a mister coffee for warmth by year three
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 17:41 |
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qirex posted:the 7 figure severance package ah yes, the 'ol golden reach-around
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 18:48 |
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Mercurius posted:yeah they bought itap for mac/ios, rebranded it and removed the cost remember for at least five years the microsoft rdp client for osx couldn't use rdp gateways and would randomly poo poo itself on sound/printer/storage forwarding one of my clients was stuck with either buying itap for or giving vpn access to contractors that used macs. hell, until exchange 2010 OWA would run in a gimped "lite" mode if you used anything other than IE. now OWA on 2007 or 2010 will only work in gimped mode if you're using ie 10 or 11, unless you add it to "compatibility view" in the browser. gg microsoft
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 01:24 |
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You Am I posted:Is there any really blinding need to move from Office 2011 other than the year in its title? outlook 2011 is a huge unstable piece of poo poo. idk about word or excel or whatever but they're probably similar. also the updater is the most hilariously stupid piece of software i've ever seen
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 02:10 |
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duTrieux. posted:office for mac is an entirely different codebase, and i'm honestly surprised that there weren't sub-silos that kept office for mac out of the office 365 bundle holy gently caress. are they still not unifying it for office 365 releases? why on earth are they doing staggered versions that are all tied to the same could service? what the gently caress is wrong with microsoft?
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 04:14 |
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theadder posted:u can export to office formats and ive never had any trouble tbh depending on what you're doing this will break a lot of advanced features, basically forget about collaborating in any useful way on the file. if you're just pushing stuff out for consumption, you may as well use PDF.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 04:15 |
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Blackula69 posted:the first update for mac office is an update to the updater that you have to manually download and install it's even worse. despite the instruction text telling you must manually get the update, simply hitting install will get that exact same update through the updater. because who knows what the gently caress is going on with these idiots
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 17:39 |
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Blackula69 posted:i am not a beep boop computer man but shouldn't microsoft be signing their software in a way that lets it be installed microsoft doesn't even sign binaries on windows in a consistent way. there are at least three common MS signatures i can think of off the top of my head in just vanilla windows. if you add dev tools or deployment stuff there are at least another four, and some of them look pretty suspect until you verify the signature online.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 17:43 |
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univbee posted:are you suggesting microsoft doesn't know its userbase or how they use computers? with the amount of market research and user experience testing they do, the know very well how their userbase uses computers they just do not give a gently caress
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 20:17 |
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just a reminder that microsoft's last ui innovation before the ribbon was "smart menus" basically, "gently caress your muscle memory, these menus are a mess, so let's dynamically rearange your access to features and functions on the fly". we'll hide poo poo at random based on whatever you used last, ensuring you spend twice as much time unhiding and searching for stuff in context, the ribbon was an improvement
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 08:00 |
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Base Emitter posted:outlook on anything is a piece of poo poo, and enjoy your mail.app because if it hasn't got better by now it aint never gonna outlook is basically competing with a decade old lotus notes. everything else silos mail, calendar, and contacts even though in normal workflow you actually want them all in one place
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 08:03 |
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pagoe posted:i wonder if bing video saves my search queries. yes, microsoft is well aware of your porn addiction and sick fetishes
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 14:40 |
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Blackula69 posted:yeah i guess there will be a "tablet guy" now, i'm just skeptical that they improve on the photographs in any way no but we will get to see them pawing as the screen with increasing frustration as their sweaty hands fail to register on the digitizer i wonder how many will be literally thrown out of frustration
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 15:36 |
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Blackula69 posted:some 330lb offensive lineman with sausage fingers pawing at the screen trying to see the d-line stunts i seriously expect some violence to occur.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 16:32 |
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Sniep posted:just me or does that look kinda nazi-esque it looks like a shoe
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 16:14 |
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pram posted:nobody ever got fired for buying microsoft software some people have gotten fired for not buying microsoft software. like the brilliant team of "sharepoint specialists" that sold and deployed an $80k sharepoint implementation without mentioning that they didn't include any cals for say loving sharepoint or SQL. leaving ~15k in missing cals that weren't discovered until we did a license audit univbee posted:this is true, and i know someone who went out and bought the home and student version of office. twice in a row. like, she bought the wrong thing and didn't realize until she opened it, called us, we told her the correct version to buy, she went back and bought the wrong one again. it even said on the package it doesn't come with outlook (and can't be used in a business) office 365 has made this worse if anything. small businesses think because it says 5pcs they can bring in their home edition license and use it on all the office pcs at once.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 17:59 |
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univbee posted:wait, this volume license of windows doesn't work unless my computer already has a copy of windows? and this can't be a home edition of windows? this is awesome, because it takes what would otherwise be a pretty easy sell, even at the price (namely volume license w/software assurance), and just punts the price through the roof. me: yes, to simplify your licensing we'd like you to buy two copies of windows for every computer you have, that way you'll always have the latest edition available (even though you would anyway thanks to a three year upgrade cycle). client: did you just tell me to go gently caress myself? me: yes, i believe i did
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:09 |
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univbee posted:but wait, if you're a charity/non-profit you can "upgrade" from a home version of windows. but you still need a base version of windows because lol we're not that generous microsoft has special license stickers and keys for refurbished PCs. anyone who resells end of lease equipment from tier-one oems uses them (or should be, per MS licensing). it is the dumbest goddamn thing i have ever seen. especially since most of those oem machines are just using an SLP activated oem copy of windows anyway
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:37 |
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Fabricated posted:Licensing in general loving sucks and is bad. Microsoft is really bad but all engineering software is about as bad if not worse. what, you don't like hardware dongles with drivers so lovely they randomly bluescreen the machine and/or corrupt the stored license info? or my favourite, the hosed up WIBU-Key release that prevented the system from completing POST if it was plugged in at boot.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:38 |
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Fabricated posted:I like our CAM labs which run software that is actually up to date but still requires serial port hasps. Since this is academia we run a lot of software so there's machines that have a tail of 3-4 serial hasps hanging off the back. tbf, this is why a place i used to support was running 386s as recently as 2007 for production. the cost to replace the controller machines was something over $10k each because of the software upgrades and consulting fees from the vendor. it was cheaper to just scour ebay/local junk shops for replacement parts and keep several systems' worth on hand at any time
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 19:20 |
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univbee posted:and office binds to a microsoft account now for non-vl editions this has been a thing since office 2013 launched. fun fact: all non-vl editions of office are based on the click-to-run streamed installer, even the offline installer is just a local copy of the CTR stuff. the only msi-based installer, and thus the only one with office plugin compatibility, is volume license. bonus facts:
you can't use an office 365 microsoft account to activate non-office 365 products, and you can't use a microsoft account tied to volume-license account to activate office 2013 or office 365 products there is no way to know which "microsoft office 2013 home and business (#)" is which within the office license portal, so you'd better remember what order you activated them in if you have to re-install one for any reason. and the product keycard you get with oem or retail copies? that's not your license key, it's a redemption key for a license key, that has exactly the same structure as a license key but cannot be used to actually activate the product and there is no way to tell which license key is tied to which activation key in the license portal. so just throw that poo poo out once you've activated because you'll never use it again and it's not a proof of license in the event of an audit
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 19:41 |
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duTrieux. posted:microsoft produced a whole loving lot of training material about those cards for big-box retail employees. detailed isntructions on what the card looks like, what it does, what it is and isn't, etc. the original plan was to try and have the retail employees walk people through setting up a microsoft account right then and there at the register, but that got nixed pretty fast no poo poo, because it takes at least 10 minutes, even when you know what you're doing. and it involves putting in all kinds of private info, birth date, multiple security questions, and a cell phone number/alternate email that has to be authenticated to create the account. try getting your average best buy customer to give you that info or input it themselves. you'd be there all day for every single sale it's a clusterfuck and there's absolutely no reason to require it in the first place.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 23:49 |
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duTrieux. posted:i still think a kiosk that lets you select what software you want before disgorging said software on a microsoft-branded flash drive after payment would be totally rad i could really only see microsoft doing this if it ripped your dick off in the process. it just doesn't meet their product experience standards otherwise
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 01:29 |
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hobbesmaster posted:so speaking of ms licensing why can't I buy a cal from Microsoft? you can if you're a huge multi-national. but otherwise that would be microsoft competing with their valued partners, and they can't be doing that
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 01:30 |
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hobbesmaster posted:but there's a button in small business server that says "buy more CALs". it does to a page that has no mention of how to purchase CALs apparently they forgot that you have to buy cals through a reseller, so there's no way to even do that without just linking to a big ol' list of authorized microsoft distributors. except for office 356 and exchange online, which you can buy direct from microsoft, because reasons
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 01:45 |
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Wheany posted:good. it's not authentically digital goddammit!
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2014 16:34 |
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Captain Foo posted:microsoft certified suicide expert so, a sharepoint consultant?
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2014 22:09 |
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Millstone posted:Wel com eto the soc ial you did it wrong
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2014 08:19 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 01:02 |
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Beeftweeter posted:but does it say Hello From Seattle this is important nope. buncha cert symbols, serial number, product name, and warranty conveniently laser etched into the back chassis under the kick stand, but no "Hello from Seattle"
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