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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Endless Mike posted:

According to the Rachel and Miles Explain the X-Men, it was to mind control him.
That's new. When he was introduced it was just a device that made his costume repel cosmic rays.

I think Say Nothing was more referring to the cowl shape where it looks like he cut out the eyes of an old Spider-man costume.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Nevvy Z posted:

Was this because his energy absorbing power would just explode out of control if he didn't have it? That sort of almost makes sense.
It's because Trask - who designed and gave him the suit - decided to include a remote-control button that would negate his powers just in case he got uppity. Havok even tells Iceman that as much as he'd like it to his suit doesn't negate his powers right before Trask uses it to negate his powers. I don't think it was ever mentioned again despite Havok following the Summers' tradition of angsting over his powers.

The circles on the chest measured his power levels, but they didn't do actually do anything other than make for a really great way to draw his powers in a way that wasn't just beams and explosions.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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She's Captain Britain's sister, so about as British as it's possible to be.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Wendell posted:

I'd never heard of this guy so I looked him up on Wiki. drat, he sucks! He gets injured, then he gets injured, then he gets injured, then he becomes Thor! Then he decides being Thor is more important than raising his son, so he leaves him with his ex-wife despite her having little interest in raising a child. Then he stops being Thor! But then he becomes Thor. But then he stops being Thor, and Thor gets banished, and this guy becomes Thor again.
You forgot that he finally kills himself with his mind, and when that ends him up in Valhalla he blubs about being just a regular New Yorker so Odin kicks him out the door to regular 'Afterlife'.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Servoret posted:

I didn't like the Phoenix Five costumes either, especially Emma's golden stripper outfit and Scott's hawk beak visor thing. Supergirl panties.
I especially don't like Colossus' 'man-slave' tunic/skirt. It looks like he should be shirtless like Namor, but marketing mandated that all the X-men proper needed to have the same bird motif so they slapped a gaudy bondage poncho on him.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Ironically one of the signs of being a vampire was that the hair and nails of your corpse would continue to 'grow'.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



zoux posted:

In honor of Emma Frost and low budget bondage porn, post the most ridiculous cheesecake costumes you can think of.

I'll lead off with Lady Mastermind


I think Bachalo is behind a lot of the modern worst offenders. I said I like Magik's costume but I kinda wish the leggings were connected to the absurdly short hot pants she's wearing.
The costume so cheesecake that Emma Frost would put a trenchcoat over it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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The first question when you're being interviewed as a professional comic artist is "Can you draw feet?"


Actually that's a lie. The first question is "I need twenty pages by monday, and make them look like CURRENT FAVOURITE because that's what the kids like, now get out of my office."

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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It's just an unnamed uru staff, despite being similar in style.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Can't see her armpits, would not subscribe.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Aphrodite posted:

That's just red Nightwing.
That makes it a good Robin outfit though, as Nightwing is just a knock-off Batman in the first place.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Animal Man's has an A stylized to the point where if I didn't know the only way of representing animal powers was a giant A on your chest I wouldn't know what it was other than arrows pointing to his heads, and it has that stupid Gambit cowl. Other than avoiding the blue/orange combination I'm not sure what it has to commend it for.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Mr. Maltose posted:

Buddy had Gambit's weird head thing years before Gambit was a thing though?
His old one didn't go all the way up to his hairline - it came across his eyes like a domino mask to accentuate his goggles.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Daredevil and Agent Venom without having to think too hard on it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Lurdiak posted:

I don't think Venom counts since he has magic legs 99% of the time.
They're superheroes, that's kind of their thing. He still goes home at night and takes off his legs one alien at a time like the rest of us.


But seriously, have you seen what prosthetics can be like these days? Do you stop being considered disabled when your pretend-legs are better than actual legs, or is it more about the emotional journey losing a functioning piece of your body and learning to live in new ways causes rather than just the static state of not being fully functional?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Nobody did that though.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Lurdiak posted:

Then exactly what point were you trying to make by bringing up modern day prosthetics? Because they sure can't do what comic book prosthetics can, and likely never will.
Hopefully prompting you to understand that there's more to a disabled person than just their inability to move their legs, and that's exactly why Oracle worked as a character.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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WickedHate posted:

Making Peach into Tank Girl is loving ridiculous, and I hate Dark Pheonix's robes. What was even wrong with the original Dark Pheonix costume? It looked awesome and wasn't revealing at all. And why reimagine Emma Frost's if she's gonna be revealing nearly as much skin anyway?
While I agree that the robe is weird as gently caress, I'm not sure you're clear on what "revealing" means when you say the Dark Phoenix swimsuit vacuum packed to every muscle isn't just because the colourist made it green rather than pink.

Re: Emma - reimagining is not the same as burkifying.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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I'm gonna say Claremont.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Gaz-L posted:

I actually think the PG design is one of those cases where the other tack has worked. Not changing the costume to suit the character, but going "what kind of person would wear this?" and building a personality around it. Sue Storm having a cut-out to show off her boobs is completely tacky and misrepresenting the character in pursuit of T&A and objectification.
To be fair, that famously tacky outfit was part of a long-running arc about Sue being possessed by a malevolent entity and even within the comic itself people on the street were telling her how terrible and distasteful it was.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Angry Walrus posted:

These two literally look like moms cosplaying.
They're supposed to look like adult versions of literally children cosplaying.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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JacquelineDempsey posted:

I was focusing so much on the outfit, I only just noticed the gore on his fists. :stare:
It looks less like gore and more like he's just using shreds of his cape as makeshift sparring gloves to protect his famously sensitive knuckles from getting torn up while punching.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Lurdiak posted:

That's really more like a throwback to The Shadow and The Spirit type pulp characters. I mean sure, you can roll them into superhero if you want by way of Batman, but that feels like reaching.
I don't think most people would actually make any distinction between pulp adventure heroes and comic-book "superheroes" that happen to have no 'actual' superpowers like Batman, Hawkeye or The Phantom. I mean, Raimi created Darkman because he couldn't get the license to Batman or The Shadow.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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It wasn't considered a success because despite making 700 million dollars it wasn't well received and they'd already announced their plan to make it into a full franchise with multiple spin-offs. As a franchise starter it was balls, so really it's not a surprise they went to the company who gave them the inspiration and originated the IP to make a deal wherein not only do they get help making that plan actually work but they get to suck on the teat of Marvel's existing success with cameos.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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The weakest tweak I can imagine and tiny addons are not phrases that come to mind for putting a trio of nightlights on a Spidey suit.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Amorphous Blob posted:

This is "adolescent power fantasy that may alienate potential readers" and also this chick is about a million times tougher and empowering than any "turned spandex into kevlar" redesign ever.
What about this image, especially the costume, do you find personally empowering?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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It's a slow day at work.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Spider-Woman.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Lurdiak have a coffee.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Die Laughing posted:

Have we discussed the comic book shorthand of Red/Blue = Good and Green/Purple = Bad? How common was that practice back in the day?
You can see it fairly commonly, but the primary thing is that it's only kind of half true.

A lot of it simply comes down to colour harmonies and the fact that if you have a Red/Blue/Yellow coloured hero and you want your villains to stand out on the page and not blur together during action then you want to use a differing colour harmony, which generally will be Orange/Green/Purple. As to why you'd start with primary colours on your heroes - they're strong and vibrant, while green or purple might bring to mind putrescence.

Old school Spider-Man has a lot of green enemies - Green Goblin is probably the best example with his purple cloak and orange pumpkin bombs but also Vulture/Sandman/Electro/Doctor Octopus. Fantastic Four were just blue because they already had orange on their team and red/yellow would not have matched - but they still fought green/purple enemies (Mole Man/Annihilus/Skrulls/Impossible Man) though not as predominantly as predominant as Spider-Man. X-Men on the other hand did not use red - they were blue/yellow and did not fight very many green/purple enemies: their villains were mostly reddish (Juggernaut/Toad/Scarlet Witch/Mastermind/Omega Red), Purplish (Sentinels/Apocalypse), or both (Mr Sinister/Magneto).

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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My true form is Piccolo with inconsistent cheekbones.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Uh, Apocalypse isn't an alien. He's a mutant. This is like comics 101 please be suitably ashamed.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Light Gun Man posted:

If the guy who runs fast doesn't somehow come back from the dead after being told to "walk it off" if he died then they have failed as storytellers.

I think it's actually a prerequisite for getting hired for the job in the first place.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Let be me first to compliment the pouches.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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WickedHate posted:

I don't wanna be a low content poo poo poster, nor do I wanna seem like a troll, but I don't know what else to say to this other than: Thundercats suck.
I've defended you in the past but you're on your loving snarf on this one.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Jean Grey and Dani Moonstar didn't dispose of their codenames until the 90s, long after any concerns of being secret mutants at a college secretly for mutants had passed.

Marvel, in general, has never had much of an interest in maintaining a secret identity unless it was a central part of the character - like, the Fantastic Four have no secret identities even though they have codenames; Doctor Strange doesn't even have a codename let alone a secret identity; and for most of his publication history The Hulk is the secret identity despite also being the superhero. On the flipside, Spider-man has a secret identity because his entire hook was that nobody likes Spider-man - they think he's a crook and a creep; Daredevil uses his to balance acting within and without the law; and Moon Knight has so many secret identities he starts losing himself in them.

I think it's probably because they were comparatively late to superhero comics and came from a horror/drama background rather than pulp vigilantes.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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WickedHate posted:

The Fantastic Four and Dr. Strange both started with secret identities, though.
Literally the first issue of Fantastic Four has Johnny Storm just flame on in front of one of his friends. In the second issue when Skrulls impersonate them they have to go on the run, because they have no secret identity - the arresting military officer even addresses Mr Fantastic as "Reed"! The third issue literally opens with a magician announcing that the Fantastic Four are in the audience - referring to them as celebrities - and then they all take their fantasticar back to the fantastipad where Sue reveals the costumes she's been working on and literally the only one who gets a mask to hide their face is The Thing!

Doctor Strange didn't have a secret identity because he wasn't strictly a superhero - unlike Doctor Fate, Doctor Strange is literally his name, so it's less a secret that he is former physician Stephen Strange and more just that nobody cares. He doesn't even move house. He briefly developed one but it was as successful as the time they tried to put him in a monkey suit (wow, bringing it back to topical!)

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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The X visor rules. That it's not in the "X theme" is precisely the point, because this is his costume for when he's firmly broken away from the X-men having murdered Xavier - there are common elements such as the piping being similar to his 11/12 suits (which also serves as the common element across his team) and the 'classic 90s'-style X buckle, but it's supposed to be a departure because that's exactly what the story behind it is.

I like the dramatic piping a lot more than the standard "we have to hide an X on this outfit" approach, which often breaks down - I was late to respond to the thread but in instances like this:

Decius posted:

Jean Grey's new costume is pretty bad:





it looks like she put a modesty towel front and back. Either make it a full skirt with leggings below or leave the skirt part, but that thing doesn't work at all, except maybe if you make it a running gag with her putting on a new, worse, costume every book.
It gets real messy. Jean Grey's costume is a mess because the X motif forces a clashing yellow area where the 'skirt' also needs to be - and Storm's top is supposed to form an X as well but the artist couldn't be bothered doing that except halfheartedly in the first panel you see there.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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I think it's really good and symbolises China as a nation perfectly, with the obvious basing in Mao Zedong's preferred design for the flag of the People's Republic of China.

The powerful red representing the Communist revolution of China, with yellow piping inspired by the original yellow bar that represented the literal tearing apart of the country the revolution brought about, and the single yellow star on the shoulder that represents the CPC as the shining saviour of the Chinese people - intelligently agreeing with several founders of the CPC in forgoing the extra four stars representing the social classes below the CPC, as two of the stars represented the hated bourgeoisie. It sends a strong statement that this is a Chinese Superman, specifically a Nationalist Communist Superman that rightfully believes in the justness of the Chinese Civil War and that all of the lower social classes are subordinate to the victorious members of the Communist Party of China.

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Sep 25, 2009

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I think the usual method is blowjobs.

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