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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Merdifex posted:

Holocaust denial is the same as not believing in scientific racism and hereditist ideology. No wonder rationalists and right-wing ideologues love Haidt.

I feel like his use of the term "War-crime" instead of "Holocaust" is some kind of dogwhistle but I can't put my finger on it

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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Munin posted:

It's called, appropriately enough, Revolutions:
http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/

He just finished the section on the French Revolution and just kicked off his stuff on the Haitian revolution.

Other aside, weep at the Republic of Virtue.

Also you should listen to the completed History Of Rome podcast from the same guy. You will learn things and enjoy it.

To bring it back on topic, every now and then he slams the kind of person this thread makes fun of by making it clear the world was not a better place during the historic times he talks about

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Woolie Wool posted:

He's also the only one who didn't surround himself with a cadre of nerdy technocrats...gee, that sure is a coincidence...

If Pol Pot had a bunch of Himmlers and Eichmanns helping him run the country the Dark Enlightenment would have loved him.

Which is ironic because he wanted to take Cambodia back to an idealized 12th century version of itself, which is like 90% of what these jerks want.

Unfortunately the other 10% which is to keep computers and the internet going strong in your medieval fiefdom is just as important

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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I spent a week in a place with unreliable wifi so I'm just catching up to this thread and I wanted to quote this:

Cingulate posted:

I definitely derive more pleasure from people being extremely angry at there being a Black guy and a white evil guy and a woman who (I hope) doesn't have to be rescued, but does rescuing herself in the new Star Wars movie than I ever could from the movie itself. I really hope they make the next movie really glaringly obvious in that sense (even more than Star Wars originally was, with the all-white all-male Star Destroyer crews and the ragtag rebel group). Like, the Sith symbol looks like a swastika, the evil guys include four blonde men, the evil dark lord is a wife beater, the Jedi get a gay latino boss, Boyega kissing the Whitest woman possible on all of the movie posters and in the key scene where the film's stupid space dick explodes, and so on.

Because Kylo Ren is the very picture of most DE jackasses. He looks mildly attractive and would look a lot better if he just got a decent shower and haircut, throws the biggest whiny baby tantrums at the drop of the hat , has cool parents who wonder where exactly they went wrong, worships totems from an idealized past, and talks a big game but could not win a fight against an opponent who knows what they're doing

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Oligopsony posted:

Someone on rationalist Tumblr mentioned that reading this thread gives them suicidal urges, so maybe we should tone-police a little more re:generalizations and stuff? Seems like the right/SJWy thing to do. (I'm phrasing this in a goofy way because that's the only register I know, but I do mean it seriously, maybe because I've gotten suicidal urges over strange things myself over the years.)

Well as a fellow depressed person who occasionally thinks about that sorta thing, I can admit I'm probably being jokey and dismissive to stuff they may have put a lot of thought and research into and that probably doesn't help their moods.

Then again if I talked about my suicidal tendencies while being against their side they'd get jokey and dismissive about me too so it evens out :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Merdifex posted:

When rationalists like a lovely person, they aren't liking said person as is, but a more meta conception of them where they're not a lovely person. Here's how you rationally go about being friends with neoreactionaries.

To be fair I would say that's how most people feel about most celebrities they like.

The weirdness comes from trying to justify it. You can't just pull back the curtain, push it back down and then expect everyone to carry on like they didn't see what's on the other side of the curtain

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Merdifex posted:

He just took some very loosely leftist precepts and added a lot of his own bullshit on that; essentially this "alt-left" is just "leftism" that Wesley likes because it reaches the same racist conclusions he did through his optimization for intelligence.


Yeah if there's an "Alt-left" that's on the same level as the "Alt-right" then it's the sixteen year old on tumblr ranting about microaggressions to be a perfect counter to the sixteen year old on a -chan board who uses racial slurs like they're commas. There's already a word for what Nydwracu is talking about, people who support gay marriage and socialized medicine while also being incredibly racist: it's"Brogressive" and it's been in the popular lexicon for years

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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FirstPersonShitter posted:

is there anything interesting going on with the Dork Entitlement these days or is this thread still just goons arguing with eachother?

There was a brief explosion in interest after Rick Wilson's famous recent verbal smackdown of the movement, but that's mostly settled down and we're back to no one caring even in the thread we made to mock them :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Woolie Wool posted:

Dick Dorkins is promoting Sargon of Akkad now. Jesus Christ.

The article implies that this is a new low but is anyone really surprised by Dawkins' antics anymore?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Patrick Spens posted:

Literacy rate Haiti 60%
Literacy rate Victorian England ~50%

A fun fact I learned recently: In the 1860s the country with the highest literacy rate per capita was The Kingdom of Hawaii and those numbers never went down. By his logic we should all be worshiping at the throne of the divine Ali'i right now

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Nessus posted:

The entire gimmick of Undertale, other than the wacky Homestuckiness and poo poo, is that it makes a common game trope (random monsters who you kill just because it's the way it is) into an axis of moral choice. Obviously in order to make this point it creates an environment where you are never/almost never in a place where we might consider killing in self defense to be morally laudable, and the game itself even has a character that remarks "there's a lot of bad people out there. You can't always hug it out."

This is independent of any fandom meta-commentary, though of course the creative pivot on monster-squashing in RPGs is indeed a commentary.

That's the thing, in a funny way there is a "Real" version of Undertale that Ragged Jack Scarlet is talking about. It's called "Every RPG ever made" and it sounds boring and not thought provoking at all :allears:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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You're thinking of Jack Donovan

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Is 16,000 even close to what LambdaConf would need to recoup the loss from their sponsors leaving in droves?

I'm guessing no but I'm curious about the operating costs for a convention like that, seeing how I just found out about them a week or so ago

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Peztopiary posted:

I love how this is hailed as a victory, as if the Internet marxists (oh sweetie, they don't even know you exist) couldn't do the same thing in the same amount of time. "I got a bunch of idiots to pledge $16000 the revolution begins tomorrow!" Kind of want in on that revenue stream though, all you've gotta do is unironically love skulls/fedoras and hate people who aren't you.

Hell this month a bunch of people Clarkhat would call "Internet Marxists" (Who are probably not actually Marxists) raised $75,000 in less than a week as a response to their favorite TV character getting killed off* If you want an indicator of who is winning, that's it right there :allears:

*I am aware that is a massive oversimplification of what happened. I don't think I'll ever see someone shoot themselves in the foot harder than the executive producer of The 100

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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Bwuaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I read that and my first response was "You mean like Tulsa?" :haw:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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How is Chuck C Johnson on there? I thought even those idiots had the good sense to disown him after one too many embarrassments

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Heath posted:

I have never understood this weird marriage of eugenics and miscegenation being a bad thing. It seems like in order to make a stronger race you would want to crossbreed diverse populations as much as possible.

A biologist I know once put it succinctly: The people who first suggested eugenics in theory wanted to create a better humanity, while the people who applied eugenics in practice believed they already were the better humans.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I just noticed Neoreaction a Basilisk has been marked as a "Project We Love" by kickstarter themselves :allears:

Considering the amount of thinkpieces asking "Is Kickstarter responsible for the content it hosts?" Written by major publications in response to neoreactionaries it might be good business sense on Kickstarter's end to endorse it :allears:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Jack Gladney posted:

Reactos don't use racial slurs. D+

Yeah they use weird pseudo-scientific terms they cribbed from a half-read anthropology article about early humanity. Get your terminology right :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Just to err on the side of caution, the following link might not be worksafe depending on your work environment.

Sometimes devilmen are so busy planning scoundrel attacks they forget to REGISTER important website names. this is a SOFT WAY of the antibuckaroo agenda but is also good because it makes it easy for BUDS WHO KNOW LOVE IS REAL to prove love (all).

Yeah just keep doing what you do Chuck :allears:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Is there a mental disorder where literally everything ever is other people's fault regardless of how nonsensical? Because I know certified diagnosed sociopaths that have less paranoid blame projection than this guy so it can't be that one.

The FBI's behavioral Analysis Program calls these people "Wound Collectors" but that's not an official diagnosis by any stretch, and even if it was it will probably take a while before you see it in the DSM

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Nessus posted:

While that was legitimately a very popular fanfic in its own right, didn't it become a giant publishing thing in large part because the author just happened to be married to a guy who just happened to know someone in charge or heavily involved with a publishing house?

Not that I've heard. When people talk about the book's runaway success they usually talk about how the Kindle erotica market was a rich vein just waiting to be tapped and she was just the first one through the gate.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Every time I hear the name Hans-Herman Hoppe my mind immediately thinks he was a member of Hitler's inner circle that i'm forgetting about, his name fits in perfectly with the other names like "Goebbels" and "Göring". I'm not even just saying that because it's a German name either, because I took 3 years of German and knew a lot of exchange students and none of them triggered this mental connection the way ol' Hans here does.

Before I found out he was alive and still vomiting forth half baked ancap screeds and calling it economic theory I always assumed Hoppe was part of a lesser known German offshoot of the Physiocrats :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Hermetic posted:

I eagerly await the newest terrible genre: Reactionary Metal.

I dunno, why would you want that when Varg Vikernes exists?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Archer666 posted:

It happened a year or two ago when the gamergate mess after the gamergate mess started and Sargon was building himself up as a "smart" guy with the whole DiGRA thing. So the guy had a livestream along with some other guy when Jenni Goodchild sent a message if she could join in for a talk, so they let her in. Not entirely sure who she is, but she's a feminist and critical of the whole gamergate thing. So they started to debate.

There was another time more recently where he willingly entered into a formalized debate with a feminist professor.

The results... Were not pretty. She kicked him to the curb

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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The Vosgian Beast posted:

Okay this is probably the cue to step off, because that dude has Problems.

BrazenAutomaton, if you're out there, please don't read things that distress you like this, I've been through that hell and it is not pretty :(

Seconding this. BrazenAutomaton, I pay my therapist way too much money for this advice so consider this a favor: No one is forcing you to do any of this, if you really are stressed out by anything posted on this thread I suggest you take a break from the internet for a few days. I know, that might sound impossible, it sounded impossible to me at first, but believe me when I say you will be refreshed after a few days without having to deal with the things that piss you off.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Razorwired posted:

I imagine it's the same as Justine Tunney and Moldbug looking down their noses at people because your average steel worker cant tell you what a fork bomb is.

I got broken out of it when my forester uncles asked me to break down the processes of putting together an environmental impact report when I got a little :techno: at Christmas dinner.

Don't worry. Some techno-wizard who never set foot in a national park will program an app that solves this problem. However your insufficient faith in the AI god has been noted and a thousand years from now a simulation of you will be placed in the fire-ant box.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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The Vosgian Beast posted:

Mister Mean-Spirited got in a fight with someone over arrowheads, and goddamnit someone is going to HEAR about this http://mister-mean-spirited.blogspot.com/2016/06/in-praise-of-pothunters.html

One point: Accredited archeologists use artifacts to spread their multicultural agenda and elevate savages that don't deserve to be celebrated

Other point: Amateur archeologists give proper respect to artifacts by using them to carry on hundreds of years of tradition

No these are not contradictory, you're just brainwashed by the Cathedral :argh:

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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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A White Guy posted:

Milo thrives on attention. How exactly will he get that same attention without twitter as a platform?

By going to every other corner of the internet and whinging about this ~grave injustice~

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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VioletCorsica posted:

Is this... porn?

It's porn for fundamentally broken people

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Jack Gladney posted:

This is so transparently autobiographical that it fills me with joy. I can almost imagine the ill-fitting polo-shirt and greasy ponytail as this turd angrily hammers out this post, stewing about how that fat bitch Debbie in the front office called human resources about his harmless joke comparing jews to a pizza.

And it's never actually Debbie who reported him but he can't fathom how anyone else would find his behavior disgusting

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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neonnoodle posted:

It really is almost the same thing as Deep Green Resistance/radfem anarcho-primitivism. Civilization as literal and figurative rape.

This happens pretty regularly where neoreactionaries take an extreme left view on subjects like masculinity, capitalism, technology, sexuality, religion and whatever else I forgot and respond to it with "Hell loving yeah I'm a warlord and a rapist"

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

This. Witcher 3 knocks it out of the park. Anyway,So does irl Kane(Owen I think) actually believe half the sad poo poo he screeches about. He is just the most pathetic gently caress out of all the alt righters. Dude tries so hard to be edgy and "intellectual" it's not even funny. You can tell he feels insecure as gently caress.

Aurini's the bald one, Owen's the bathtub guy

Also the Witcher 3 definitely told a good story using a sandbox setting but I'd like to mention Fallout New Vegas for its ability to draw almost every quest and sidequest into the main story so that everything had a visible effect on how the final battle plays out.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Jack Gladney posted:

He had a blog where he wrote a long post about his history with depression and the times he came closest to killing himself, saying that if anyone he knew was in a similar place they shouldn't hesitate to contact him because he would talk to them and get them help even if he didn't know them that well--that he was only alive now because others helped him when he was at his lowest and moments from attempting suicide.

His next post was accusing Paul Feig of being too feminized to direct a Ghostbusters movie because he over-identified with his mother as a child and therefore never developed a stable sense of masculinity, complete with citations from ex-gay therapists. He is so pathetic in his transparent projection and failed masculinity that I can't hate him, yet he is scum and I want to bully him so, so badly.

Yeah he's always going to be a fascinating subject to me because I'll always wonder what prevented me from turning out like him :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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divabot posted:

Milo Yiannopoulous' charity for white kids may have been yet another right-wing affinity fraud.

To the surprise of no one :smug:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Tracula posted:

I was reading KotakuInAction a bit (I'm sorry) and by and large a lot of people there are even throwing Milo under the bus for this charity scholarship debacle thing. It seems even the hard at right is just sick of his poo poo at this point.

Well yeah two years ago he was the closest thing to a legitimate reporter their dumb movement had. Now though, they think they have a real shot at electing US president who is sympathetic to the alt-right and if they don't clean house over the next two months they'll lose everything.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Lottery of Babylon posted:

In civilizations that worshiped Moloch, it was high status to sacrifice one’s children to Moloch in the fire, so the upper class would adopt some bastard, and then sacrifice him to Moloch, rather than their real children.

Never thought I'd see one of these guys speak highly of a North African society :v:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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pookel posted:

I hope we get all of these:



ETA: I like that even before Europeans moved in, there was STILL loving nothing in Kansas.

That map doesn't have the Tongva people :ca:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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quote:


The novel gets progressively more ingenious, and it exposes the disgusting evil of the nihilist Left in a way that hasn't been done before. The heroes are based on various pagan gods, and the villains are based on historical movements such as the Jacobins, Luddites, Puritans, Aztecs, and others.

What the poo poo did the Aztecs do that pissed this guy off so much? I mean there's the obvious "They weren't white" but when you put them on a list like that I have to wonder

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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

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Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Zoe Quinn is a person who, if she were not the symbolic strawman of every hateful internet dweeb, I probably would distance myself from and avoid since she seems like she's got some problems and I don't really like her personality.

Yeah I'm agreeing with this. My problem isn't with anyone's reaction to the game itself, it's that these jerkasses have sent a very clear message that I will never be a "Real" geek until I stop caring about mental health and stop encouraging others to care about mental health.

TinTower posted:

So help me out, guys, on how to figure out this guy. He says he's a Marxist-Leninist but a lot of his viewpoints seem very far-rightish. Like, for example, the sedevacantism borne out of the Catholic Church being full of gays.

It is an achingly normal occurence for wannabe revolutionaries with poorly ironed on Lenin shirts to decry "Identity politics" as a distraction to keep us workers from uniting against the real enemies. A depressingly large number of them harbor racist viewpoints and think that's a good enough smokescreen.

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