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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I mean 4chan was kind of a whole generational thing, like I don't know anyone my age, at work or friends or otherwise, who didn't frequent it at some point in their lives, generally in their teens. However the only people who still frequent it are also some of the shittier people I know When I was in high school it was a weird point of pride for me that I never browsed 4chan or used memes despite all my friends doing so. In retrospect, this is possibly the one thing high school me did right. Good job younger Hate Fibration.
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pookel posted:Good lord, you people are young. I used to hang out on 4chan occasionally ... like six years ago, when I was in my 30s. When I was in high school we had BBSes. In college I got email for the first time. That was pretty amazing. I feel so small and young now. Small Frozen Thing posted:And then you went and burned away all that cred with this post. drat shame. I don't get the joke 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:You basically said the internet equivalent of going "I don't even own a TV I don't own a TV! That's what laptops and internet connections are for!  I think you are massively overestimating how universal 4chan was for people. Me and my friends in high school were massive dorks. I feel like the fact that they used memes in everyday conversation and I still hung out with them was evidence of this. But no one outside my little group of nerd friends would catch the references. The internet equivalent of "I down even own a TV" is easily "I don't have a Facebook" and I am not sure why you are so defensive about 4chan, especially when talking about the time period we are, the site was definitely a "Not for everyone" kind of place. I always felt it was downright unpleasant and very much lacking in accountability, and years later everyone I know who was involved with it finds it embarrassing and awkward. It was really more like the adolescent geek equivalent of "super embarrassing goth phase" and pretending that it's some sort of generational touchstone strikes me as pretty disingenuous. Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 04:30 on May 27, 2016 |
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Small Frozen Thing posted:On the other hand, now THIS post... What about it?
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pookel posted:Btw, whoever talked about 12-year-olds upthread is behind the times. The average age of menstruation in American girls is something like 9-10 right now, which means they're starting to get breasts by 7-8. In other words, Jim's talking about 8-year-olds, although I don't know if he realizes it. Can we please step up our water treatment game?  Actually, what is causing that?
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Jun 3, 2016 04:18
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Peel posted:Isn't that the really old stuff that he himself has described as youthful idiocy? Updated: 2/26/99 So we know that he believed this as late as age 23 at least. Unless he was a 23 year old eighth-grader that is well beyond "youthful idiocy" and is just straight up idiocy. For comparison, Yudkowsky wrote "The Level Above Mine" in 2008 which is almost the exact same strain of stupidity. And his god awful cringe inducing OKCupid page was up at least as late 2012. It all paints a very consistent picture of an extremely credulous person that wants to be a scientist, but is cripplingly aware of their own credulity and lack of work-ethic. I don't think he's aged out of it at all. I think he's just started putting his stupid in different places.
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pookel posted:I need to see this OKCupid profile. Here you go
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Nessus posted:It's a shame we lost the general use of the term "race prejudice," because I feel this would be really useful here. Because you can then say, "It is entirely and wholly possible for a black man to be eaten up with race prejudice and hate all white men, and you may well have met that man. But he is not "racist," because that describes the greater system." The word bigoted provide a very convenient work around here.
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Law Cheetah posted:from my memory of high school it was always the normalcool kids who got mad about the stuff in that comic, not the nerds Yeah, this has always been a super-popular gripe about English classes. Throw a rock and 50/50 you'll hit someone who thinks the way. If anything, I think it is mostly symptomatic of English teachers not teaching the fundamentals of literary analysis well at all. Instead typically what happens is that soft-ball examples are presented without justification and then teachers jump right into the western canon. Blaming this attitude on nerds is to miss the fact that it is mostly a result of bad pedagogy The reason it's funny when nerds do it is because they think they're smart and so it is hilarious to watch them misunderstand something that is part of the standard high school curriculum. Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 16:38 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Neofolk will never not be hilarious to me because it is entirely an accident of history. Musically speaking Industrial and Neo-Folk have pretty much nothing in common at all. But yeah, the preponderance of fascists and nazis was really disturbing, but it did drive me into the welcoming arms of the Japanese noise and shoe gaze scenes
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Woolie Wool posted:Here, have it from some actual PoC who have had to deal with white people's poo poo personally: 
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I tried to watch Million Dollar Extreme and it was just confusing and bad. Where are the jokes?
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I found a Discord with Nydwracu in it and he is exactly as dumb as you'd expect him to be:quote:But really—if no-platforming is such an effective tactic, why not use it against Islamists? Surely some of the people who don't like Nazis also don't like Islamists. Has this ever been proposed? The fact that someone can't immediately see the difference, even a simple practical one, between no-platforming a small group of hatemongers and a major world religion that is a major component of the dominant social structure in numerous parts of the globe is hilarious to me. quote:"Dark Souls 2 makes numerous gameplay improvements and some distinct sytlistic choices" seem like great hills to die on, actually. Dark Souls 1 is easily the worst game in the series and makes a number of seriously moronic design decisions. Blighttown alone could fill a book on what not to do when designing a level. The only reason people regard it so highly is nostalgia.
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May 24, 2017 23:32
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:cum drinking freaks Sounds like people who know how to party.
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May 30, 2017 23:56
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divabot posted:oh, MetaMed Deep Throat has found and is reading this thread, and has offered to answer questions about MetaMed via me. (that are (a) safe for them to answer (b) are ethical to answer at all, e.g. that don't violate HIPAA in letter or spirit.) Look into the eyes of Smug Eliezer and ask away ... Did anyone at MetaMed point out that if the company succeeded it would mean that doctors everywhere are somehow incapable of basic statistics? How come no one brought up the process of differential diagnosis and how it relates physician-patient interactions? Because that is another obviously fatal thing. I mean...what I really want to know is how everyone assembled didn't miss the stunningly obvious red flags? Was anyone on staff actually familiar with the practice of medicine at all?
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divabot posted:They literally believed that doctors in vast numbers are somehow incapable of basic statistics. Or rather, of Yudkowsky's flavour of Bayesian statistics. Ughhhhhh. The sheer arrogance on display there is insane. Obviously ALL the other doctors forgot basic methodology, but me? I'm a smart one.  So I've hung out with rationalists a little bit. And there's a something that some people in STEM have, the good ones anyways. It's nothing to do with skill or knowledge, it's almost like a spark or a creative spirit. It can be difficult to verbalize. But you know it when you see it. The reason I bring this up is... almost none of them loving have it, like bizarrely few of them do? It's not a super rare thing, is what I'm saying. At this point I would confidently say that if you take the population of rationalists with STEM qualifications, on average the work they do is of lower quality than the general population of people who work in STEM.
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Qwertycoatl posted:Some questions: Ooh, I have some of that actually.   Names removed to protect the innocent.
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Goon Danton posted:I've seen this kind of thing in action in the sciences, and in my experience the people with the "creative spark" are generally just higher up on Bloom's Taxonomy than the ones without. Bloom's Taxonomy is just a hierarchy of levels of learning on a given topic, from rote memorization at the bottom through applying knowledge to solve a problem in the middle and up to the top levels, one of which (the absolute pinnacle in some versions) happens to be called "creation." Huh. I'm not familiar with Bloom's Taxonomy. I'll look into it! divabot posted:
Yeah. What went on behind the scenes is pretty horrifying. I don't even know this person and I'm like...furious on their behalf. I actually started talking to them because I was friends with some people in the community and said friends' behavior concerned me. This individual had mentioned negative experiences with rationalists publicly and I wanted to hear their story to see if I could get a better idea of what was going on and if these people were as unpleasant as they seemed. It turned out to be much worse. Man, people who I talk and interact with associate with the people behind Metamed. And they're fine with it! It makes my skin crawl and I will probably cut ties with all of them shortly here.
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Sax Solo posted:Scott Alexander is such a little turd... suggesting Hallquist does "not have sufficient g-factor to follow the detailed arguments on Less Wrong." My favorite thing about his rebuttal is these two quotes side-by-side: quote:We need more people who are able to evaluate difficult moral and intellectual arguments and come to apparently-bizarre but in-fact-very-important conclusions, even when there is not a knock-down scientific argument proving them correct quite yet. quote:You get AMRI Nutrigenomics, where a bunch of people with PhDs and MDs give a breathtakingly beautiful analysis of the complexities of the methylation cycle, then use it to prove that vaccines cause autism. By all means, know as much about methylation as they do! But you’ve also got to have something they’re missing!
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Fututor Magnus posted:
I thought it was generally assumed that the reason ashkenazi jews do well on IQ tests is that as a liturgical tradition with a strong emphasis on argumentation and the written word there is a push towards scholarship. It seems very weird to me that someone would cite Cochran's garbage when that extremely obvious and likely explanation is just...right there. What I'm saying is that Scott's consistent bias towards genetic explanations and fixation on IQ is, at this point, obviously rooted in racism. No matter how loudly he denies it. Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 22:48 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Someone I know had the best description of Yudkowsky ever: "He looks like a sysadmin for general Zod"
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Munin posted:It is though I don't agree with a lot of it. It's interesting but also deeply flawed. A characteristic shared by pretty much everything on Arachne. FiveThirtyEight probably had my favorite article in the entire election. quote:Data and testing is also one of the few good ways to extrapolate beyond our immediate experience and crucially can be one of the good ways to highlight when systemic issues and discrimination does arise Absolutely. It's easily one of the most glaring omissions in the entire piece. quote:One of the little nuggets which warmed the cockles of my heart was the holding up of mathematical truth. It is a philosophically rather contentious topic especially in the way he deployed it. As a mathematician in training myself it gave me a nice fuzzy glow  Skittle Prickle posted:I think it's a mistake to use rationalists to throw away a reliance on facts and data. This is actually exactly why I found the article interesting. It's so strange to me to see a mathematician react this way. By almost tossing data and factual information out the window. quote:Rationalists frequently drift away from the mainstream of science, and unsuprisingly this is where the idiocy tends to occur. I think the rationalists attract people who already have prejudices towards a certain way of thinking about the world. All the "rationality training" and extensive debates about which type of centrist liberalism is the only way to run society give them overconfidence about the beliefs of the type of people attracted to rationalism, to the point where they embrace super sketchy stuff because they know a lot of smart people that believe it. This is exactly what happens. I actually spent a fair chunk of time with a group of rationalists recently. They tend to have scrupulosity issues and almost always have an obsessive fixation on intelligence. So by insulating themselves in a community that encourages both of these things they invariably enter a sort of death spiral where they lose all sense of perspective.
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Oligopsony posted:actually it's bad and doesn't bother to do the homework on the things it's criticizing I was too distracted by the pretty rainbow banner
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Law Cheetah posted:you can't discuss the rationalist sphere without adopting their neologisms, the utilons generated by the lesswrong memeplex can't be resisted Google the following: 'Oligopsony Less Wrong' 
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Speaking of SneerClub, check out this gem linked there. This is definitely a man who should be taking care of children.
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TinTower posted:
Where is this happening? Is it in the talk pages?
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Annointed posted:You'd think having a "criticisms" section on Ray Blanchard would be there like they do for most things, but you'd be wrong. I looked at the Wikipedia page for AGP. Apparently Cantor was editing it substantially too. Blanchard et al all have a really active online presence and I wouldn't put astroturfing wiki past them.
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Tulip posted:"Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they (liberals) get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing" Fun fact, there are several white supremacist satanic organizations. The most well known of these are The Order of Nine Angles and The Joy of Satan. Combined they probably have a membership of a little over 2000(ONA was briefly investigated as a possible vector for acts of white supremacist terrorism. Due to the decentralized and secretive nature of the org, estimates are hard to get and it may in actuality be much smaller.) These however, are dwarfed by organizations such as the Church of Satan, The Satanic Temple, The Temple of Set, and The Greater Luciferian Church. Which run the gamut from libertarian to explicitly far left. 
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I don't think I like this Addams Family reboot.
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Syd Midnight posted:I dropped this exchange from a few months ago into my quotes.txt because it helped me remember the difference between the 2 similar sounding but very very different satan orgs Pretty much. It will not surprise you that satanists also have some of the most toxic group dynamics I have ever seen. They fight SO MUCH. Hell, Aquino who founded the Temple of Set, STILL to this day will yammer on and on about how awful everyone in the Church of Satan was and how they are all posers etc. Most of the stuff resulting in the schism happened in the late 70's. divabot posted:ranma-official is the frothing nutbag who calls "LIES LIES" when someone in the outgroup posts literally verifiable facts, and will usually be making verifiably false claims himself in the process. This is your brain on rationalism. The-Grey-Tribe is a crypto fascist libertarian type as is mitigated-chaos and a few others. Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 21:53 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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there wolf posted:I think the point of confusion is that "surgeried to porn standards" isn't necessarily all that much surgery. Hormone therapy, laser hair removal, and a boob job can make radical changes for people, and all of those are far more accessible than SRS. TERFs aren't making up trans women with perfect porn-bodies but no bottom surgery; they're just laughably exaggerating how much surgery it can take to make a trans woman look like that. If you're not built like a linebacker it's just FFS(probably mild FFS), boob job, and butt implants after laser. Three operations in total, only one of which being at all intensive.
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there wolf posted:The 1.5/2.5 on the Kinsey scale? I feel like at this point it's beyond any reasonable doubt that Blanchard is a crank. He's supported the same ideas and methodology since the 70's despite clinical experiences of trans healthcare professionals being overwhelmingly against them. The man supports conversion therapy for god's sake. Despite the fact that it's his fault pretty much that gender nonconforming kids and kids with GID got lumped into the same diagnostic category(This is the root of 80% of transgender kids stop being transgender claim.) All gender nonconforming behavior gets lumped into the same group for kids if it distresses their parents enough.
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TinTower posted:Unless you're on Wikipedia, which is in an inmates-running-the-asylum situation here and bans anybody who dissents from Blanchard's quackery. I pulled this amazing screencap from Blanchard's twitter:  It's so perfect.
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Somfin posted:A quick reminder about the kind of person Yud is, at heart: There actually is a thing that can cause what Yudkowsky is describing here. Type 2 diabetes. 
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Commissar Kayla posted:I know you're a couple steps removed so probably don't have more details but I want more details of what it is like to be trapped in whatever passes for small talk for him. If it is anything like the other rationalists I've met, it is a feat of inhuman will to not roll your eyes so hard you injure yourself.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm sorry what is this person even trying to say Racists are the Galileos of our time. Also someone smart cannot be curious about the bible without becoming an atheist. Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 06:26 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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