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Oct 18, 2013



Chocolate Teapot posted:

I find the contrast of an admittedly well-drawn picture captioned with "urgh loving muslims" pretty loving hilarious myself.

It's because they stole the picture from something else while the caption is home grown.

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Oct 18, 2013



ArchangeI posted:

It becomes clearer when you realize that they don't mean western civilization as a cultural construct of values and ideas but really white people.

Usually not even all white people. Most of the time it's just teutonic or anglo-saxon or whatever their name for "special white" is.

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Oct 18, 2013



divabot posted:

Someone who wasn't a public homophobe was outed as gay by an escort they hired, and Gawker considered writing about this to be in the public interest. It seems to have reminded both shitlords and SJWs why Gawker are really pretty lovely.

Gawker thinks it will get them clicks. Same as TMZ doing something like that. I can't feel any real sympathy for Conde Nast, because well the guy is scum regardless of his orientation, but Gawker are still rear end in a top hat tabloid writers. Somehow though the neoreactionaries think that Gawker is some legitimate representation of the "left".

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Oct 18, 2013



The Vosgian Beast posted:

That image is what GBS actually believes.
Sneaking your fetish stuff into a boring work assignment seems like something that GBS should be praising though.

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Oct 18, 2013



Klaus88 posted:

I'm honestly not sure how you could make WWII less tragic, especially if you take the view that letting the Soviets have free reign of Europe is a bad thing but one way to do that would be give Frederic Porsche free reign. :getin:

How about stopping the Holocaust which was still ongoing at that point. Seems like a no brainer.

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Oct 18, 2013



Antivehicular posted:

Also, I like how searching for "birth control" gets exactly one result, in the context of mandatory birth control/opt-in reproduction, and instead we get a ton of talk about how to make sure that poor people (because why even pretend that the poors aren't genetically inferior, right?) never even have sex. I guess the concept of high birth rates among low-income populations largely being a product of insufficient access to reliable birth control and family planning support, not the proles being screaming Morlocks who demand MORE BAYBEES, is foreign to these guys. (Much like how the concept that a real, effective "eugenics" program focused on ensuring that a more society-positive outcome for each generation would do way better by investments in education and social/health services to help parents and children towards positive outcomes than cultish worship of the PRECIOUS ESSENCES of the rich, but y'know.)
To be fair another reason for poor people having more children than middle class and rich people are the positive economic incentives for richer people to either not have kids at all or have them later in life. When the only career you have stand to lose from having kids is minimum wage anyways it's a lot easier to see havi kids as worthwhile. Though once again the reoreactionaries never once address the idea that maybe it's societies fault that there is poverty, not some inherent immorality on the part of the poor.

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Oct 18, 2013



Prism Mirror Lens posted:

Posting in this Dhalgren discussion for some username mileage :getin: Apart from his fiction, his books on writing are really great, by the way. (Although his NAMBLA opinions are... uh... a bit offputting?)

Does this guy actually know what glib means? Not that it's not accurate in describing sad puppies writing...

What NAMBLA opinions? I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out another author I like is a terrible person deep down.

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Oct 18, 2013



Humanities courses also expose you to professors who can actually teach, instead of STEM professors who consider it a secondary part of their job.

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Oct 18, 2013



I thought Yud was the one with a live in sex slave?

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Oct 18, 2013



MYFAROG's cover art also looks to be reused from a pathfinder third party monster series called RAWR, and the artist is Slavic. I don't know if anything meaningful can be derived from this, but it seems funny.

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Oct 18, 2013



DarklyDreaming posted:

Same reason anyone becomes a libertarian. They have enough to live well but want more and believe they'd have it if those fuckers stopped stealing their poo poo.

Either that or they're someone unequipped to live in the modern world or screwed by the system enough that they think removing the system would make them the millionaires they clearly deserve to be. In poverty but absolutely believes in the free market is a common thread int bitcoiners, and I don't see why it would be different amongst other types of libertarian.

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Oct 18, 2013



Hate Fibration posted:

I've seen the same thing from right-wing people, talking about "anime marxists." I think it's just that anime-avatars tend to be brightly colored and stick out visually.

Anime marxist as I've known it tends to refer to the Stalinist/Maoists from LF who also for some reason love anime.

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Oct 18, 2013



Heresiarch posted:

I want to ask if Wade at any point addresses the fact that there's more genetic diversity within sub-Saharan Africa than there is outside it, but I think I already know the answer.

There's a greater genetic distance between the Bantu and Khoisan people than there is between any two "Caucasian" groups you can pick (like for example, East Indians and Germans), but I've never seen a single work of scientific racism even acknowledge that there exists distinct populations like that in Africa.
I know some of them claim that Neanderthal genes make white superior, and that any bottle-necking is just proof that the genes are more successful.

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Oct 18, 2013



FourLeaf posted:

black men are more attractive than men of other races,

:agreed:

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Oct 18, 2013



Asclepius Hot Rod posted:

Oh. My. That accent is...god awful! Since the trans-Atlantic accent is practically dead in the US and only heard in old movies and radio shows, he had to CHOOSE to speak that way. Such an enlightened individual indeed!

His love of Rome and the fact that he is a lawyer reminds me of someone who posted in the Roman/Greek Ask/Tell thread several years ago. Dude was convinced that the "Old Ways" were superior to modern life and that he would have been an aristocrat under the old Roman system. I wonder if they are the same person.
Funny thing is that even when it was commoner the Mid-Atlantic accent was fake. It was intentionally cultivated by idiot rich people to seperate themselves form teh filthy poors.

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Oct 18, 2013



Patrick Spens posted:

Calling SSC a festering toilet in a world where e.g. 4chan and red state exist seems silly. It's honestly pretty good, as long as you just hide all the reactionary comments instead of fuming over them.

4chan has the benefit of having boards other than /pol/, SSC has no such privilege.

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Oct 18, 2013



It's because despite "outrage culture" being the bludgeon of oppressive assholes the internet does enjoy being outraged. There might have been one or two people actually wanting to call for a mas boycott, but there aren't enough of them for it to really say anything on a demographic level. Twitter however can unite against these bigots, because it feels good to denounce people who are just plainly morally wrong.

That of course isn't to say there aren't racist people whining about black characters in Star Wars, just that despite any hand wringing the ones that actually care will see the movie anyways, because they're nerds and it's Star Wars.

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Oct 18, 2013




Well then color me wrong. Someone with the influence to get 24 whole retweets is calling for a boycott. Given that people mocking it have hijacked the hashtag, the end take away is people being motivated to see a movie because it has a black person in a leading role though. Which is you know a good thing.

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Oct 18, 2013



The only non-bad way out involves a time machine and teaching your younger self to be less of a tool.

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Oct 18, 2013



Cingulate posted:

So just to make the obvious explicit: this is trying to retroactively paint Monarchy as a Libertarian paradise.
Compared to Cromwell sure, but everything is good compared to Cromwell. I mean I'm sure this guy is just praising monarchy in general rather than specifically citing the Restoration as good because of the preceding civil war though.

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Oct 18, 2013



Race Realists posted:

In the movie Black Widow refers to herself as a monster because she was sterilized in the past, some folks took to Whedon's twitter about it and he has since closed it.
Whedon writes stupid and sexist things into his movies.

Whedon was harassed off of twitter, and that sort of harassment isn't cool.

These two things aren't mutually exclusive. For some reason people think they are.

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Oct 18, 2013



I could see the value of a long-form article because it wasn't just Nazis they were trying to escape, but literally every other movement and activity that Dark Enlightenment idealizes. Runaway capitalism, non-Nazi fascists, industrialization specifically the industrialization of war, futurists, military monarchs, etc were all things specifically pointed to as absolute evils in early twentieth century romanticism because it was all inspired by WW1 and its immediate aftermath.

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Oct 18, 2013



""The dwarves of course are quite obviously - wouldn't you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews? Their words are Semitic obviously, constructed to be Semitic.""
― J.R.R. Tolkien

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Oct 18, 2013



Pierson posted:

This one is actually really funny if you scroll down far enough, because the exact same hashtag was used two years ago to complain that Assassin Creed 3 didn't work, and the language used really hasn't changed much. So you have like thirty tweets by incredibly self-important gamers about Marx being Hitler, then two dozen more from some incredibly self-important gamer about how gamers are the true shareholders of ubisoft and they're being robbed. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I thought the hashtag came from Unity having game breaking bugs, lovely business practices, and laughable excuses for having no playable women characters.

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Oct 18, 2013



Pierson posted:

I'm not a big Assassins Creed player so I'll admit it's entirely possible. My point was more that some gamers will treat everything as a massive grandiose issue like they're arguing civil rights before the supreme court.
Well yeah because it's twitter and gaming forums. Regardless they were exceptionally lovely business practices, and in general are the type of things that reactionary gamers will try to justify to defend their favorite game series.

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Oct 18, 2013



DStecks posted:

The central concept of Assassin's Creed, if you really want to get into it, is that all ideologies are secretly bullshit used by people in power to justify their power. Like, from their very inception, every single one of them. Which, really, is a Glibertarian take on history. It started out as outright Marxist, in the true sense of the word, when it was about the Assassins fighting for freedom from Templar world-domination; but eventually they decided that actually having good guys and bad guys was too political, so you get the Glibertarian ultra-cynicism of the latter games. It's the kind of bullshit moral equivocation that only the truly privileged can write. See also: Bioshock Infinite.
Are we talking about pre or post DLC Bioshock Infinite, because both of them are bullshit terrible writing, but both are bullshit for entirely different reasons?

Before the DLC for some reason it wanted us to sympathize with the WASPs for reasons I can't actually understand. The revolution decides to target you because they quite reasonably think you're an impostor, and then for some reason we're supposed to think that they're bad guys. I don't get it but the narrative clearly thought they were evil even though there was no change in behavior from when it thought they were good guys.

Then after the DLC it turns out literally every single named character was secretly an atheist, because well gosh darn they're just too smart to fall for the con job that is religion. Also every even slightly uncomfortable thing the rebels did was set up by the twins who are literally God at this point, for reasons that are too stupid to really explain.

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Oct 18, 2013



AC2 was also the one with a fairly well done low key gay romance. Sad that the sequels didn't really do anything with it.

Also weren't a truly staggering number of political terms, particularly those used for neo-reactionaries coined during the French Revolution? Wasn't reactionary itself a word from then?

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Oct 18, 2013



Literally The Worst posted:

wasn't it something in the villa that subsequently got blown the gently caress up
I'm talking about Ezio and da Vinci.

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Oct 18, 2013



DStecks posted:

I only played the base game, where the horrible white racists are horrible for suppressing the black people, and then the black people rise up and massacre the whites, proving the whites were right. It's ~morally grey~

Yeah that was hilariously bullshit. Did you notice how they removed all the irish and other white rebels as soon as the Vox became your enemy. Clearly this game isn't racist at all.

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Oct 18, 2013



Zerilan posted:

So basically "morally grey" means being Robot Santa from futurama? "Mobsters beating up a shopkeeper for protection money! Very naughty. Shopkeepers not paying their protection money - exactly as naughty!"
Kinda. For a little bit the rebels are portrayed as completely good and right during tehir revolution, but then with no change of behavior on the rebel's part all fo the poor white rebels disappear and the narrative turns against them. Seriously their behavior doesn't change at all, the narrative and the main characters just decide they're the bad guys. Their leader hold a little kid at gunpoint, but is killed for it immediately. Somehow this means the entire revolution is bad.

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Oct 18, 2013



Heresiarch posted:

I can cut Bioshock Infinite a little slack because apparently the game wasn't actually finished and they had to mash together something to ship because the publisher wasn't going to wait any longer. You can sort of see bits and pieces of something a little more nuanced in there, but in the end it doesn't hold together and you can't really tell what parts are supposed to be the characters having opinions and which parts are the developers having opinions.

Having your audience read a character's opinions as that of the author is a problem with any work of fiction and you have to be really careful about it when dealing with a mass market product because most people just take things at face value. B:I didn't pull it off so its ideology is just a muddled mess.
The thing is the game being unfinished is entirely Levine's fault. The man cannot stick to an idea and forces his team to completely reinvent whatever product they're working on with startling frequency. So all of his games end up being unfinished mashups of whatever interesting ideas can be salvaged. When he got to tell a more focused concise story in the Burial at Sea DLC it was even worse and less nuanced.

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Oct 18, 2013



Literally The Worst posted:

I'm pretty sure you invented that

I didn't make up the romantic gondola ride.

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Oct 18, 2013



Please define racism as created by white people. I honestly don't know how one would categorize the treatment of the Ainu by the Japanese as fundamentally any differently than the treatment of the Native Americans by white settlers, and in general I'm having difficulty finding a definition of racism that is unique to white people that isn't also entirely wrapped up in capitalism.

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Oct 18, 2013



Pussy Cartel posted:

It looks like Twitter's alt-right/nRX/frogtwitter weirdos have decided to exploit the poo poo going down in Paris by trying to get some anti-GamerGate guy caught up in everything. https://twitter.com/grasswirefacts/status/665633389362282496

Who actually shared that first? Cause the actual image edit comes from a joke thread, hence the dildo photo shopped into the background.

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Oct 18, 2013




Wow, I appear to have been misled. My bad.

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Oct 18, 2013



Oligopsony posted:

Someone on rationalist Tumblr mentioned that reading this thread gives them suicidal urges, so maybe we should tone-police a little more re:generalizations and stuff? Seems like the right/SJWy thing to do. (I'm phrasing this in a goofy way because that's the only register I know, but I do mean it seriously, maybe because I've gotten suicidal urges over strange things myself over the years.)

If people disagreeing with you in a dismissive manner causes suicidal urges, you probably shouldn't be on the internet. Like that's either just a blanket excuse to justify refusing criticism or someone who needs to be in some for of medical observation at all times.

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Oct 18, 2013



It's because it's nerds feeling defensive about their lifestyle and political views. You are on a forum/forums that are populated almost exclusively by nerds. It's like trying to discuss taxes in an engineering workplace without libertarians overrunning the conversation.

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Oct 18, 2013



Dr Pepper posted:

Holy crap I could not stop laughing once it hit the guy whining about having to share his comics and sci-fi with non-white people. :laffo:

hbomberguy's stuff on the alt-right/gamergate is always pretty funny, but Rocking MrE has always struck me as particularly weird. He isn't white or at least really doesn't look white, and yet he's a white supremacist.

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Oct 18, 2013



I know race isn't a biologically support thing really, but it's just wierd that someone no visibly not white is claiming to be white.

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Oct 18, 2013



Admittedly I am from Mormonland, but he looks like a Turkish person to me. Especially in the Star Wars video he looks way darker than the latino character he claims is not white enough in the Force Awakens.

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