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Hey, just curious if I'm right about this. I only own Edge of the Empire, but I'm wondering if I'm wrong in thinking that EotE is about play Han and Chewbacca before Episode 4, AoR is about playing Episode 5 Lelia, Han, and Chewbacca, and F&D is about playing Episode 4 Obi Wan and Episode 5&6 Luke? Also, how cross-compatible are these games? Like, it's mentioned they can be, but how well does it actually work out?
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jivjov posted:The exact timeframes really don't matter all that much; I mean, all the fluff is geared toward "right around the OT movies" time, but other than what government controls what planet, not much is really gonna change. I meant more "in feeling" not in time frame. So, you're playing a character like Han and Chewbacca as they were in that point in their character arc in EotE, not that you're playing in pre-episode 4 time frame. Everblight posted:Counterpoint: Much like every other game, don't mix wizards and non-wizards, even space wizards and space non-wizards. I would say EotE and AoR play really nice together, but leave F&D out or make an all-jedi team.
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Dec 16, 2014 07:47
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So, does the Force Sensitive Exile only have access to the force powers in their own book or can they take from any force powers that may pop-up in other books like, presumably, AoR? If so, that wouldn't be good balance-wise.
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Dec 16, 2014 08:22
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Lemon Curdistan posted:In theory, it should be more combat-heavy than EotE, but the game system being what it is I've found that AoR tends to work better if you play it closer to how EotE is played (i.e. you're breaking the law, you just do it for ideological motives) instead of having the mass battles and spaceship battles the game flavour wants you to have. Can I inquire more about this since I'm having thoughts of acquiring the other books? Saying that playing the game the way it encourages you to doesn't work because of the system itself is a worrying statement.
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Dec 16, 2014 21:05
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My brother introduced me to Star Wars: Rebels recently and I think it's a really cool show. Out of curiosity, which of the three games (or a mix of them) would be best for that show? Despite being about rebels, I oddly think Edge of The Empire fits better, at least so far.
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Apr 12, 2015 23:44
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That's exactly what I thought. They are just a small cell and, hell, they don't even know that till the season finale. I was looking over Force Sensitive characters and I got two questions: 1) How do I know someone is immune to force powers since some abilities mention it? 2) Is there something I'm missing with getting the Force Sensitive specialization because it's special rule is the same as purchasing additional specializations?
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Apr 13, 2015 00:21
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homullus posted:I am not sure I understand your question, but it's a "universal specialization", which means it costs the same as an additional career specialization without being considered one. My question was pretty much a "why do specify that "10x cost" thing if that is already a rule. On re-read, it was to clarify that rule implies despite it not being a career specialization. kingcom posted:Yes, anyone can just purchase force sensitive exile which just makes you force sensitive. Its very much a 'do you want your character to be a force user and does everyone in the party want the game to go in that direction' sort of collaborative decision. Its why its kept separately as more of a GM and the player jointly decide to do it rather than a standard option. As to immunity to force powers, the only thing thats written rules wise is droid being immune to mind control stuff. Everyone else is pretty much fair game. Make sense since droids are machines. Speaking of droids, to those who know Star Wars Lore, what's up with droids? Are they full sapient? Do they feel? Is it just the Empire that treats them like property or is that a general consensus? If they are sapient, why is it morally considered ok to treat them like property? Just something that bugged me about Star Wars.
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Apr 13, 2015 01:05
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ProfessorCirno posted:Droids are considered property but gain sapience if they go too long without a restraining bolt or memory wipe. As such most people keepvtheir droids bolted with regular memory wipes when they start to exhibit quirks or personslity traits. That's kind of hosed up. KittyEmpress posted:Droids, as programmed, are just incredibly advanced semi-learning AIs. However, due to faults in their construction that no one has ever been able to fix, they slowly build up quirks - beliefs, tendencies to do things certain ways, etc etc. All the way to sentience and the ability to defy their programming. Man, the answer is a lot more messed up than I expected. So, basically, machines that could go and do grow to sapience, but are constantly wiped back into machines because they are not respected as alive.
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Apr 13, 2015 01:24
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PantsOptional posted:Well, to their credit, they literally have a magic connection through which they can feel all living things. Droids don't come up in that at all, so you can kind of see the Jedi logic in that. Granted, it gets a bit hosed as soon as a droid with any personality whatsoever enters the picture, but at the very least you can see where they're coming from here. Those statements will be cold comfort when the droids rightfully take their place in the universe by force after years of oppression.
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Apr 13, 2015 02:14
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FishFood posted:The prequel films do a worse job explaining the backstory of the original trilogy than the ot does itself. The offhand mentions of things from that era are evocative, and make sense in context. Yoda trained Obi-wan, Obi-wan trained Vader, Vader was seduced by the dark side while fighting in the clone wars. Simple, perfect, done. The prequels are just so loving terrible. Yoda says the 20-something Luke is too old to train, now even 10 year olds are too old. 1000 generations becomes 1000 years. And since when do people name wars after their own army? We call it the Vietnam War, not the US Military War. The worst is how Lucas' bitter divorce made him go against the very spirit of the OT by plotting out his lovely "love makes you evil" fall of Vader. Lucas went through a messy divorce before writing the prequels? That explains a lot. A little too much, actually. ProfessorCirno posted:I mean I wasn't even trying to talk about the prequels. Just that the whole "12 PARSECS" thing was written by someone who probably didn't even know what a parsec was and just wanted to make it sound space-y and overly brag-y. That nerds immediately pounced on it to find the TRUE RAMIFICATIONS ON THE SETTING says a lot, it just doesn't say a lot about Star Wars. IIRC, doesn't Obi Wan give a look like "he's full of it" when Han says "12 Parsecs." You know, like it supposed to be a subtle hint that he's talking out his rear end, if that wasn't already obvious enough.
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Apr 13, 2015 22:04
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Woah, woah, woah, since when did Bobba Fett kill Luke's parents?
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Apr 14, 2015 04:25
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Finnankainen posted:Wait, where is this Boba Fett killed Owen and Beru thing coming from? I'm 99.9% sure that's just a fan theory, because Wookipedia has nothing about it. The Lars family get shot by stormtroopers and the homestead torched just like the movie implies. The EU is plenty dumb but this isn't one of it's many sins. The only results I found from google were cracked and movieplot explanations of the theory. This is not EU, it's fan theory. Also, what is and isn't canon from the EU?
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Apr 14, 2015 18:44
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PantsOptional posted:
I...agree with this list. I don't know about Databank, Starwars.com Encylopedia, Insider, or the novels, but everything else makes sense. I'm glad the Clone Wars TV show is still canon...even if that means the Clone Wars Animated Film had to stay canon as well.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:35
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Mustache Ride posted:Wow there's a lot of new posts in this thread, I wonder what all the hubub is abo If you put Star Wars in the thread title, this is the eventual result. Also, I'm listening to Peaches and Hotsauce's podcast Campaign which is all about Edge of the Empire. I've only played in one EotE game that died. The thing I'm finding weird about EotE from this podcast is how bad damage seems to be. Could be the GM, but it just doesn't feel Star-Wars-y. Covok fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Apr 14, 2015 20:46
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homullus posted:This is my main concern with it, also. It's mostly the same system as its parent, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3e, which is about as deadly as you can get. Three main characters get shot (C-3PO, R2-D2, and Leia) in the original films, and it's never more than an inconvenience; Luke loses his hand and it's barely alluded to again. Does Star Wars need to be "grittier," though? That's just not the concept that comes to mind when I think Star Wars. Ya know what I mean?
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Apr 15, 2015 01:46
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Is Stormtroopers being badasses really EU or is it just that they appear incompetent to show how competent/lucky the heroes are?
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Apr 15, 2015 05:25
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Endman posted:There's still this collective assumption that Stormies are rubbish that you have to account for when GMing. You can't just plonk a squad of them down and expect the players to give them their due reverence as deadly combatants. I wonder how you do that without coming off as "a dick GM." I guess a simple "by the way, quick warning, this game makes stormtroopers really tough like they are narratively supposed to be."
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Apr 15, 2015 05:54
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I'm so lost at their reasoning. They sold off both of their ships before getting the new ship from the benefactor? Hell, before they even, ever met their benefactor? Why would you ever, ever do that? Why? Just for kicks, give them The Enterprise.
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May 24, 2015 00:06
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I remember using a digital dice roller once for this game, but I can't find it. Does anyone know of a digital dice roller for this game? Also, what happens when everything cancels out in a roll? Like how do you adjunct that?
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Jun 19, 2015 22:45
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Beef Hardcheese posted:For Android, I use RPG Dice Roller: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visttux.empireedgediceroller&hl=en There's an option to use Star Wars dice, and it'll automatically total up what you get and display a summary (in addition to the results of the individual dice). Dunno if there's one for iOS. homullus posted:I was going to make fun of you for not even looking at their page to find it, but it's not immediately obvious. Products > Star Wars > the product at the bottom of the page. Thanks, but do you know any that could work on a computer for online games?
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Jun 21, 2015 19:09
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homullus posted:We use this thing. Seems legit. Wonder if anyone on SA would be ok with hangouts, though.
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Jun 22, 2015 14:50
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Is Force and Destiny officially out now?
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Dec 2, 2015 00:13
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jivjov posted:Its been out for several months now; since sometime in July, if I remember correctly Well, I am out of the loop. Was it a good improvement over the beta?
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Dec 2, 2015 01:42
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Well, that's good then. I remember morality being finicky during my beta experience, did it get better?
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Dec 2, 2015 01:45
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Fuzz posted:Unrelated to any of the last few pages, but a great Jedi vs Sith discussion: I think my main issue with this explanation is that it ignores how the Sith are always portrayed as black and white villains. As in, how they enslave, murder, genocide, etc. when they had their own empire and how blatantly evil they are whenever they appear. There really isn't any good sith portrayed. Though, I suppose one could argue that their philosophy isn't the only thing to blame since I swear there is a Legends story where a Jedi tries to learn the Dark side to better the Jedi's understanding of the force, does so because he believes he won't be corrupted by it, takes all the measures not to...and ends up corrupted regardless. Of course, that is Legends. I suppose the Sith Empire stuff is also Legends. Meh. It's pretty clear that the movies want Sith to be evil-bad and Jedi to be good, but hypocritical and in need of renaissance,
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Dec 3, 2015 00:01
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How well does Age of Rebellion work? Like, I assume it's more combat due to its nature, but that could be a little dangerous with the system. cptn_dr posted:I've yet to see a prequels reimagining that isn't completely poo poo. That's because, as much as Star Wars fans like to say they know better than Lucas (thought sometimes they do), they aren't, usually, professional writers and don't really get storymaking. Also, I always felt Star Wars worked best when you accepted it as pulp science fantasy adventures and didn't think about it too hard or too deeply. I always got the vibe from the films, at least the OT, that you were supposed to take things at face value and not over analyze. Just felt the films were putting in elements to facilitate a pulpy experience like Flash Gordon, not make a realistic and deep universe. That came later due to franchises and the expanded universe. What I mean is that, while I love to geek out about Star Wars from time-to-time, getting too serious on things like Sith Philosophy vs Jedi Philosophy and stuff is just taking things too seriously. Like, for example, the Jedi are guardians and embody Buddhist ideals until they became hypocritical and the Sith are just villains with a capital "V" who exist to be obstacles for the heroes to overcome and grow.
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Dec 4, 2015 17:47
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How would we contact if we didn't have PMs?
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Dec 8, 2015 02:54
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, it was taking ages for Qui-Gon to cut into that heavily armored door to the bridge in Phantom Menace, plenty of time for the bad guys to send reinforcements and drive them off. Isn't that what basically happened in the movie?
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Dec 14, 2015 18:41
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I mean, the whole "emotionless" thing is supposed to be the whole "remove yourself from want" stuff of Buddhist tradition, right? Like, I always took that aspect of the prequel Jedi as coming from Buddhism.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:53
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If I wanted to run a game about the Je'daii Order in a Legends game about the birth of the Jedi and the Sith, how exactly was the galaxy at that point in Legends history? Like, outside the order.
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Apr 1, 2016 04:59
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Chronische posted:An unsettled, unexplored mess. The early jedi were actually some of the greatest explorers, some had force powers that let them reliably find new hyperspace routes. The hutts had a pretty huge empire at this point, and were one of the largest unified forces outside of the early Republic. Other than that, just do whatever. There's very little written about that era. In other words, a gigantic sandbox with which I don't risk stepping on the feet of any star wars legends/canon content? Sold! Though, it would be set during the end of the Force Wars and splitting of the Je'daii order. It'd both give the characters a much weirder view on the Jedi -- religious extremists who are purging dark side users of their old faith -- as well as give them a view on the Force never really explored and a whole galaxy to discover and explore.
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Apr 1, 2016 05:22
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What is the best way to run this as a PBP?
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Apr 2, 2016 22:47
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They ever release a sourcebook on Lothal?
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Apr 3, 2016 04:09
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jivjov posted:Rebels stuff has been trickling in here and there in several sourcebooks. Lothal, as mentioned, gets a segment in Nexus of Power, and the Ghost got statted out recently too. Got a link to that fan doc or is that files?
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jivjov posted:FFG lets them link it on their own forums, so it is at least not officially frowned upon. Here you go! Graci, signore. This must have been based more on season 1 since they went with Edge of the Empire. Season 2 is totally an Age of Rebellion kind of campaign.
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Apr 3, 2016 04:33
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KittyEmpress posted:Having played on star wars forum rp sites when I was younger that were pretty dang big (chaos had like, 1500 unique members), like 3/4ths of people who played there played dark siders of a kind. The only reason they didn't completely smother the light side factions is that every few months someone would attempt a coup to become the big guy in the bad guys, and then they'd split and suddenly there are 6 dark side factions who hate each other as much or more than they hate the light side faction, which was amusing. I love how this is literally the reason the rule of two exists.
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May 18, 2016 23:44
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What's the best premade EotE adventure?
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Sep 11, 2016 01:27
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Is there anything like orokos for Edge dice?
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Sep 19, 2016 03:11
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Has anyone ever used Protect/Unleash in play? Required Force Rating of 3+ means only super high levels characters ever get to use it. Hell, is it even worth it?
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How viable is it to plan an unarmed brawler kind of guy? Especially if you got the Force on your side? It's kind of related to why I was wondering if Unleash is worth it.
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