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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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spacegoat posted:

Part two of this weirdo's Blue Table Painting Saga. Fun starts at 19m30s.

lol $28,000 to have his army painted one level higher than the best job he got.

What an idiot.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Frobbe posted:



I have no idea what this model originally was, but it's sitting proudly in front of me when i paint.

He can be saved (if you want to). It would make a great experiment actually, so send him to me.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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BULBASAUR posted:

Hummmmmmmmmmm there's just something about this model I can't quite place







If there is any chance you are referring to the dick-gun, orks have a long and proud tradition of dick-cannons on their gargants.



If that isn't what you are referring to, I have no idea...

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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spacegoat posted:

Yeah, looks like a lot of other dissatisfied customers are coming out of the woodwork over at Warseer. There's also some drama with Miniwargaming soliciting positive BTP stories from their paying subscribers.

Colour me shocked and amazed, that after Miniwargaming has attended Vahalla: The Ultimate Wargamers Retreat, hosted by BTP for the last few years; that they would try to artificially prop up BTP and its lovely business habits/work ethic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcuM1dgs90k

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Ugh

BlueTablePainting Painting Commission Studio Showcase from Miniwargaming

Top Comment:

Oh dear... I guess this is why you sent a message out to members of the Vault only asking for good reviews of BTP. A biased advertisement video that doesn't focus on the numerous pit falls of ordering from BTP. You need to weigh up the negatives along with the positives if you want anyone to listen to you. The biggest issue is the fact that they assembly line your army through 2-3 different painters if one person can't handle it alone, so it's RARELY consistent. Three different painters paint in three different ways.

A key example of this is when Shawn had his studio Tau painted, he noted several times that his own painters messed up the shading on his army and got them to repaint entire models until they got it right. Why did the guy with his Chaos Dwarfs (who was a paying customer and not an army destined for Shawns collection) not get the same treatment before his models were shipped? Some of his STILL had primer showing on them even after he'd asked to correct them.

A lot of people have issues with BTP and a lot of people don't. That's the nature of a business that offers a personal service. But sending out a newsletter to your fans/vault asking for "positive reviews/experiences with BTP" with no mention of negatives is a step too far. Not to mention BTP is going to put extra effort into any army commisioned by MWG because they are WAY more than just a customer. They're an advertising oppertunity with 151,000 subscribers. You can drat well extra effort was put into it.

So please don't do lopsided, biased, paid advertisements. That's not the reason we watch the channel.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Loxbourne posted:

Interesting that MWG cut and ran, then. Did the sheer scale of the fallout make them panic?

Probably wasn't worth the static and the drop in subs, I protest dropped my subscription. Don't back shady businesses MWG, and BTP is shady as gently caress.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Since this is now the commission painting thread I guess this might be worth contributing: Painting Commission Do's & Don'ts

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Daedleh posted:

No he's not. Another commission service has offered to bring the army up to spec.



Their touched up mini on the left, BTP on the right.

He's pursuing legal action against BTP and has tried using a credit card chargeback to get a full refund. The bank has advised BTP to settle independently and they have refused. He has also hired a lawyer to recover payments, if BTP continue to refuse to refund him.

BTP, we have airbrushes and know how to use them (mostly, well sort of...)

Yikes, that is some "Oh poo poo I have a tournament tomorrow and need 700 more points of models" paint job right there, only barely table-top quality.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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BULBASAUR posted:

Somebody needs to do a 'thin your paints' style montage to the BTP images

I elect SRM.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Kaysette posted:

That's the only helmet that would fit on a scrunt. Please be more sensitive.

Has "scrunt" been creeping into to other forums yet, or is it still just a SA thing?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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moths posted:

That poo poo pisses me right off, while at the same time I'm OK playing historical games that have actual model Nazis in them.

I've been trying to put my finger on why that is - I think it has a lot to do with the person's motivation.

Why do I get the distinct impression that this:



is their motivation?

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Nov 19, 2014

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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moths posted:

I really don't think they're trolling. I think they're exalting brain-damaged misconceptions and are itching for the opportunity to start a dialogue about the clean Wehrmacht and how "Actually, both sides had heroes..." and really Stalin was the villain, and :godwin:

But the period is legitimately fascinating: It starts with horses and bolt-action rifles, and finishes with near-modern tanks and night-scoped assault rifles. It's full of real-life heroics and drama, a parade of examples of humanity at our best and worst. Of course it's compelling, and you can fill your brain with trivia that might eventually be relevant.

Sorry to steer things heavy for a minute. Here's a bunch of weird-rear end :nws: titty-scorpions:

http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal156.jpg
http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal155.jpg
http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal154.jpg
http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal153.jpg
http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal152.jpg
http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fal151.jpg

I have some recollection of the "artist" saying that the 40k empire of man was a fascist regime and so using nazi iconography seemed appropriate. Less, "Hitler had some good ideas", and more "fascists are fascists so why not use potentially offensive imagery"?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Business Gorillas posted:

I never got the THIN YOUR PAINTS stuff. I never thin my paints and the stuff I do turns out just fine :shrug:

A: You probably aren't using lovely paint.
B: You probably have enough patience to not add four coats of paint before the others properly dry and make the whole thing a blobby mess.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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SRM posted:

This Rhino is converted from a hard drive for some reason.


May or may not include super sketchy porn, buyer beware!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Peztopiary posted:

^Bringing presents to all the good little skrunts and gobbos.



Obvious maybe, but not terrible.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Blue Table Painting: if you are too lazy to give your mins a half-assed paint job let us do it for you!

$727 for 2 tanks, 3 bikes and 27 troops. YIKES!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Soulfucker posted:

These are sure a lot of words I couldn't be bothered to read.

One of my buddies bought 3000 points of used Orks for a the equivalent of around 40 bucks the other week and we took some of them for a game today, and discovered these ones:



That's flock they're covered in. There were like 10 more models with the same thing going on. :psyduck:

Kommandos in Ghillie suits!

(Remember Super Clean cures all)

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Z the IVth posted:

They released a bunch of other stuff today. The Warlords look really awesome:



There's still 189 of them left in stock

This one on the other hand, sold out in a matter of hours (I got an update sometime in the night, by the time I woke up it was gone)



Sex sells really well. Makes me wonder why I make robots and spaceships. I would be on top of my own miniature empire right now had I gone down the T&A route.

Dong-bot was sexy as hell.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Bucnasti posted:

I know a guy, who's a super good painter, nearly Golden Demon level, and he occasionally sells minis on Ebay. He's gotten hate mail from other sellers for calling his minis "professional painted" because he's setting buyer expectations too high for other "professional painters".

Tell him to use Artisan Painted. Or Master Level Painted.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Uroboros posted:

Why is everyone so giddy they are going down?

They have a poor track record. They treat employees poorly, and they over charge customers for middling quality work.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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You know why these are great and slave girl objective is awful? Because a train guy would hide one or two of these models in a huge city set up and it would be his own little joke rather than being so horribly obvious with an objective marker.

Admittedly, yes a train guy could do a whole diorama with them, but I suspect that a subtle "Lovers in action" set would be put in the upper floor of a house on a bigger set up.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Moola posted:

*bids $100+ on this*

The fact that it sold for $30 shipped is shocking enough.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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SRM posted:

I've found the more someone uses "custom" as opposed to "conversion" the worse painter/modeler they tend to be.







House paint is still paint dammit!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Sexual Predator.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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thespaceinvader posted:

None of those are particularly bad?

Especially not slugginator and tallnought, they're both neat.

Then you pay $120 for all of them.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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JcDent posted:

1) How's everyone taking the points-less wonder?
2) How is it supposed to be balanced anyway?

1) Fanboys are starting to eat it up as expected, the more skeptical of us are avoiding it like the plague.
2) It isn't. (Or possibly by using predefined lists for scenarios, but those only work with the models in the AoS box)

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Speaking of weird old minis; look what I just won!



McDeath's Crazed Caledonian Commandos

I'm so happy.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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I Am The Scum posted:

Are those broken bottles?

Yes they are. It's what pushed me over the edge and got me to bid on them.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Zark the Damned posted:

News just in, Forgeworld are now producing their own power armoured Scrunts


It looks like his face is sliding off his skull? Are we witnessing the birth of a Skelly-marine?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Z the IVth posted:

Well the model he modded it off has a tank top, but I suppose he was good enough to sculpt the cogwheel collar, he could've done a proper collar and shirt.

I'm pretty sure the gear was there already. I like that model but if I ever paint mine she is getting an undershirt for that bare midriff, I am undecided about the boob window.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Der Waffle Mous posted:

looking at that style it really does seem like something some inter-war soviet design bureau would poo poo out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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LordAba posted:

Do people really grab there wang like that when taking a wizz?

No, normally it takes two hands.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Needs more Dakka and thicker paint.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Drake_263 posted:

It doesn't help that battletech grognards are the worst grognards and everytime someone comes up with a better-looking modernized mech design, you have basement-dwelling neckbeards rising to the ramparts about how those old designs have SPIRIT and CHARM and how the new models are OFFENSIVE TO THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME.

This is a game whose core ruleset has not changed at all in the last twenty-five years, it's just had more and more crap piled onto it. It's the exact same with the models.

So like GW grognards that poo poo on AoS and laud the old "charming" models of yesteryear? I'm one of those people btw. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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JcDent posted:

I've seen a Simarine live. The head is soooo tiny.

I actually never read people complaining about AoS models replacing good ol' charming ones; when it comes up, AoS models are said to be bad by themselves.

Also, I would never want to paint any of the AoS named characters or heroes of anything aside from Sigmarines. That stuff looks extremely fiddly, too detailed, fragile... and expensive, to boot.



Hey, this guy doesn't look half bad.

I guess it's less about replacement (though AoS did replace Fantasy) but more about the evolution of GW minis from simple to vastly overblown.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Star Man posted:

I don't understand why people hate line of sight rules. A unit can't see a target and therefore cannot shoot at it.

:wal: I can totally see the tip of his sword.

:stat: That isn't part of his body, it doesn't count.

:wal: True line of sight. If I can see ANY part of the MODEL, I can target it.

:stat: That is stupid.

:wal: You are stupid.

Next week.

:wal: Why are all your models almost prone on their bases?

:stat: True LOS motherfucker.

That is why TLOS is poo poo. The Infinity silhouettes are much better for resolving this type of thing.



And here is why they use silhouettes. All 4 guys are the same unit type, but with TLOS you might imagine one of them has a minor advantage.

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Dec 9, 2015

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Pierzak posted:

You mean the S3 foxhole dude while all the others are S2? :v:

Shows how much I actually play. The point stands tlos is poo poo.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Kibner posted:

Man, some of those Annie models would work great for games set in Glorantha.

She is good people and posts in the SA Frostgrave thread from time to time.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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ineptmule posted:

Those shieldmaidens actually look pretty great. Is this SAGA any good? I'm hearing about it more and more.

SAGA is pretty good. Some RNG fuckery if the dice you need don't turn up on your turn, but I like it. I will say that the Rus Vikings are a little OP, but if you deny them rage you can win fairly handily.

Check your PMs.

JcDent posted:

Far as I've heard, it's p. rad. The army building rules are pretty simplistic and the meat of the game is in a special dice rolling table (unique for each faction) that I can't explain.

Not the most polished presentation, but it does OK explaining the rules: How to Play SAGA. Saga dice, battle boards and troop activation are in episode 2.

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jan 6, 2016

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