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College Republicans try their hand at reaching young, female voters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOppsQJtL2M Pohl posted:Haha, where is that from? He sounds like a Liberal. I want to see how he qualified his remarks, however. Except for that ISIS part, obviously. http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/09/29/foxs-ben-carson-ap-history-curriculum-would-mak/200933
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Pohl posted:Haha, where is that from? He sounds like a Liberal. I want to see how he qualified his remarks, however. Except for that ISIS part, obviously. Pretty sure he's complaining about it being actual American history, instead of jingoist praise for the Founding Fathers. Also a shoutout to MLK to prove he's not just a Tea Party clone.
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Joementum posted:College Republicans try their hand at reaching young, female voters. Eh, the ad takes 'You are your own brand' to its rational conclusion. However, it confuses the issue: are they selling me a wedding dress, or a candidate? Further, what demographic group of white women is most likely to get married "right after graduating"? Not one likely to vote.
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I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Y'know, the uninsured are much less likely to go in to get checked up on minor symptoms. Then, oops, it's loving Ebola and it's too late and they've now infected people they've come into contact with. Appeal to people's sense of self-preservation. You can't even handwave it away as "they deserved it" or "they should have used the ER" because while symptomatic they're infecting other people. I imagine it's also a great argument for increased paid sick leave.
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Brannock posted:I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Y'know, the uninsured are much less likely to go in to get checked up on minor symptoms. Then, oops, it's loving Ebola and it's too late and they've now infected people they've come into contact with. Appeal to people's sense of self-preservation. You can't even handwave it away as "they deserved it" or "they should have used the ER" because while symptomatic they're infecting other people. The hospital really hosed up by not asking if the patient had travel history to west africa. Now if you're uninsured and present with febrile symptoms, and answer 'yes' to the high-risk ebola screening question, you'll get personalized attention. Is the government going to pay for this? If not, why would someone with ebola go to the hospital? Maybe its time for Obama to care.
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Brannock posted:I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Since there are virtually zero American politicians who have ever fought for universal healthcare, I'm going to go with "no".
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zoux posted:Since there are virtually zero American politicians who have ever fought for universal healthcare, I'm going to go with "no". Rahm Emanuel.
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Brannock posted:I imagine it's also a great argument for increased paid sick leave. HAHAHAHA, you are funny, you think that US Corporations give a crap about the health of their employees. Have of em die to an ebola outbreak? Meh, hire some more college graduates.
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zoux posted:Since there are virtually zero American politicians who have ever fought for universal healthcare, I'm going to go with "no". Yeah if anything Repealing Obamacare is the Only Way™ to stop Ebola from getting your kids. Did you know Obama has a greater genetic similarity to most Ebola patients than most Americans?
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Brannock posted:I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Y'know, the uninsured are much less likely to go in to get checked up on minor symptoms. Then, oops, it's loving Ebola and it's too late and they've now infected people they've come into contact with. Appeal to people's sense of self-preservation. You can't even handwave it away as "they deserved it" or "they should have used the ER" because while symptomatic they're infecting other people.
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Talmonis posted:Pretty sure he's complaining about it being actual American history, instead of jingoist praise for the Founding Fathers. Also a shoutout to MLK to prove he's not just a Tea Party clone. I know who he is, I just wanted the context of his remarks. The video is pretty awesome.
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Brannock posted:I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Y'know, the uninsured are much less likely to go in to get checked up on minor symptoms. Then, oops, it's loving Ebola and it's too late and they've now infected people they've come into contact with. Appeal to people's sense of self-preservation. You can't even handwave it away as "they deserved it" or "they should have used the ER" because while symptomatic they're infecting other people. Much like Sandy Hook the right is doing the exact opposite of the reasonable response. In this case instead of "We need to improve healthcare" it's "If someone is sick they should be abandoned to die." Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Joementum posted:Click here to see Jim McDermott (D-WA) dressed up in a Bruce Lee yellow jumpsuit. realtalk Jim McDermott owns bones and I am so happy I get to vote for him
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My Imaginary GF posted:Rahm Emanuel. Do you find it hard to type so much with only 9 fingers?
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Nessus posted:If those people worked harder, they would have earned the right to not die horribly in an epidemic. Duh. I know you're being facetious here, but the thing distinguishing the Ebola thing is that by not covering the uninsured sick or potentially-sick you're putting your other hard-working employees and God-fearing American citizens at risk. This is less of a "Sucks to be you" situation, which is why I originally wondered if it could be a strong political argument for universal coverage.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Do you find it hard to type so much with only 9 fingers? You want a more specific answer? America has universal healthcare. In 2009, I heard from Durbin that single payer was DOA in the Senate despite what the house may propose. Rahm was pro-universal healthcare, Durbin was against universal healthcare. However, universal care passed the house, passed the senate, and is now law in America.
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Brannock posted:I know you're being facetious here, but the thing distinguishing the Ebola thing is that by not covering the uninsured sick or potentially-sick you're putting your other hard-working employees and God-fearing American citizens at risk. This is less of a "Sucks to be you" situation, which is why I originally wondered if it could be a strong political argument for universal coverage. The problem with your argument is assuming that evidence, logic or cause-and-effect can sway ideology.
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zoux posted:The problem with your argument is assuming that evidence, logic or cause-and-effect can sway ideology. Indeed, death to America, dehumanize yourself and embrace cynicism.
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My Imaginary GF posted:You want a more specific answer? America has universal healthcare. In 2009, I heard from Durbin that single payer was DOA in the Senate despite what the house may propose. Rahm was pro-universal healthcare, Durbin was against universal healthcare. However, universal care passed the house, passed the senate, and is now law in America. :it is a you are rahm emanuel joke: He lost a finger from an infection after cutting it working at Arbys
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My Imaginary GF posted:
I don't know, there is a surprisinngly high proportion of young women who both care about politics and go to college looking for an MRS degree. These already vote Republican, however. Brannock posted:I wonder if there's any chance of politicians using the Ebola thing to fight for universal healthcare. Y'know, the uninsured are much less likely to go in to get checked up on minor symptoms. Probably not. I am curious as to how this will affect national approval ratings as we hit the midterms and gear up for 2016 primaries, though. Republicans will hammer away with "flaky Dems failed to close borders and quarantine brown people, exposed America to pestilence", while the Dems should be able to spin "POTUS has commited more resources to stopping this disease than any ten governments combined, would have done more if he did not have to worry about a Republican HoR holding the purse strings". Gonna be a PR battle if more cases turn up.
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My Imaginary GF posted:You want a more specific answer? America has universal healthcare. In 2009, I heard from Durbin that single payer was DOA in the Senate despite what the house may propose. Rahm was pro-universal healthcare, Durbin was against universal healthcare. However, universal care passed the house, passed the senate, and is now law in America. America only has universal healthcare in the states that opted into the medicare expansion and even then America only has universal healthcare on paper.
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PupsOfWar posted:I don't know, there is a surprisinngly high proportion of young women who both care about politics and go to college looking for an MRS degree. Yeah, those demos already turn out and lean heavily R. If its an add targeting that base demo, sounds like they have a base turnout issue. More cases will turn up. Its a matter of time and probability. How this Texas situation is handled, sets the tone for future cases: if you bankrupt the family, what incentive will future cases have to seek treatment?
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Tender Bender posted:Much like Sandy Hook the right is doing the exact opposite of the reasonable response. In this case instead of "We need to improve healthcare" it's "If someone is sick they should be abandoned to die." On that note some nutter called in a bomb threat there today. I'd put money in it being a Sandy Hook Truther that did it
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Joementum posted:College Republicans try their hand at reaching young, female voters. And the great thing about that "Culturally Relevant" ad is that its one size fits all. That's right, the ad is culturally relevant to Tom Corbett, Rick Snyder, Bruce Rauner, Bob Beauprez, Asa Hutchinson and Rick Scott. quote:CRNC national chairman Alex Smith told the Wall Street Journal that the ads are geared toward experiences young people have every day.
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Didn't a judge just decide that Obamacare was illegal in states that didn't have their own website? The argument was that government subsidies were not legal in a situation where..... I don't even know what the argument was, it was so dumb. I'll find it. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/judge-rules-against-white-house-on-affordable-care-act-111474.html Yeah, he used the IRS as an excuse as to why it was 'unfair'. Pohl fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Pohl posted:Didn't a judge just decide that Obamacare was illegal in states that didn't have their own website? The argument was that government subsidies were not legal in a situation where..... I don't even know what the argument was, it was so dumb. I'll find it. Yes, I believe there's a circuit split over this, but I might be confusing an appeals decision. Basically the argument is that if you read only the section about the subsidizes it doesn't mention the federal exchanges only the state exchanges. Now sure, in the section on the Federal exchanges it says that the federal exchanges are the replacement for the state exchanges. Its a gotcha style argument that congress really intended the federal exchanges to get no subsides, please don't ask the bills authors though...
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My Imaginary GF posted:
One thing to take into account is that, unlike in Africa, survivors and their stories will be all over the American national news. If one of them complains about long waiting lines and bureaucratic inefficiency, it will be a PR blow against government-run healthcare. If one of them complains about not going to the doctor earlier because they could not afford it, it will be a PR blow in favor of healthcare expansion. Particularly with the first case being a non-American in Texas, I'm sure Texan candidates are already planning to rope it into anti-immigrant platforms.
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Amergin posted:USPol October: Obama Brought the e-BALLA Virus .... Ok? Cause her likely foreign policy is noted as a plus by who, exactly? She won't be worse than a R there.
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PupsOfWar posted:One thing to take into account is that, unlike in Africa, survivors and their stories will be all over the American national news. Only if they are white.
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PupsOfWar posted:One thing to take into account is that, unlike in Africa, survivors and their stories will be all over the American national news. Especially if the schoolchildren contract EVD because of the hospital fuckup, and then one dies. Greg Abbott prevents their parents from sueing the hospital. Wendy Davis favors sueing hospitals when they done hosed up so bad. Why do you want your children to die of Ebola?
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Pohl posted:Didn't a judge just decide that Obamacare was illegal in states that didn't have their own website? The argument was that government subsidies were not legal in a situation where..... I don't even know what the argument was, it was so dumb. I'll find it.
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zoux posted:Uh seriously?  : America's tax and educational systems desperately need reform. : Yeah!
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My Imaginary GF posted:Eh, the ad takes 'You are your own brand' to its rational conclusion. However, it confuses the issue: are they selling me a wedding dress, or a candidate? You know, the Mormons. I could completely see that ad here in Utah, but wtf Florida? Oh wait, Florida.
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SubponticatePoster posted:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. So the ad isn't really aimed at young women voters; the ad is aimed at geriatric women to pressure them that they're uncool if they vote democratic.
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McAlister posted:
No. The initial claim is refused. The doctor can then submit for prior approval, indicating a medical need for the medication. There would be some clinical staff making these decisions somewhere within the company you work for or the insurance company you contract with. Phone posting here, but a quick read of the rest of your message insicates that you're largely in agreement with me - many insurance companies don't provide meaningful coverage for these meds.
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Nate RFB posted:What is the makeup of the 10th circuit? Would they be expected to strike down the subsidies or not? Last time this came up, the likely next step was to have all 11(?) circuit judges review the ruling and the consensus was that the sane ones would outnumber the nuts and reverse the finding and re-harmonize the circuits so the SCOTUS wouldn't have any (valid) reason to want to review it. At least I think that's the case I'm remembering.
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Munkeymon posted:Last time this came up, the likely next step was to have all 11(?) circuit judges review the ruling and the consensus was that the sane ones would outnumber the nuts and reverse the finding and re-harmonize the circuits so the SCOTUS wouldn't have any (valid) reason to want to review it.
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Secret Service director is resigning per the NYT.
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The Warszawa posted:Secret Service director is resigning per the NYT. Good. Hopefully this will lead to even more hilarious/horrifying leaks about what else they've screwed up the last few years.
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