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Febreeze
Oct 24, 2011

I want to care, butt I dont

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Ty1990
Apr 22, 2011

Jota posted:

My favorite part about Cary Williams bitching about practice making him tired is that Chip Kelly said Williams didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday this week. Dude is a bitch and isn't good. I can't wait for him to get off this team.

I'm sorry but as an eagle fan who lives with two diehard dallas fans, Cary's "no no no" finger wave at the Dallas bench last year after denying Dez the tying two point conversion will make me sort of like him forever

Mike N Eich
Jan 27, 2007

This might just be the year

R.D. Mangles posted:

Kyle Fuller owns, he is the only defensive Bear who doesn't infuriate me. I can't believe the Bears can't find a linebacker somewhere, anywhere that is better than Jon Bostic.

Jon Bostic had a really excellent game??

Lots of Bears young defensive players played really well today. The strange thing is that in the first 3 games I'd say that unit has outplayed the offense. Cutler was kinda erratic and the running game is completely missing.

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?
Bears got any DEs waiting in the wings? I thought Jared Allen looked completely ineffective unless he knew a pass was coming. Which I think is the definition of pass-rush specialist, not every-down starter

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

football fuckerman posted:

Bears got any DEs waiting in the wings? I thought Jared Allen looked completely ineffective unless he knew a pass was coming. Which I think is the definition of pass-rush specialist, not every-down starter

cornelius washington

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.

Kevlar v2.0 posted:

I honestly think the last time the Bears won convincingly was against Tennessee in Week 9 of 2012. Even when they got big leads early against Pittsburgh and Dallas last season, they still let the other team get back into the game and I was sweating bullets in the 4th quarter.

CHI v DAL last year was a blowout. The only reason that Romo was eventually able to put up points was because the Bears seemed to prefer midfield tackles rather than batting down passes in order to run out the clock.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Is it me or does Cutler only throw daggers?

MaximumBob
Jan 15, 2006

You're moving who to the bullpen?

Chilichimp posted:

Is it me or does Cutler only throw daggers?

It's you, he threw multiple nice touch passes last night - the TD that was negated by the hands to the face penalty and that big gain by Jeffery along the sideline both come to mind.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

MaximumBob posted:

It's you, he threw multiple nice touch passes last night - the TD that was negated by the hands to the face penalty and that big gain by Jeffery along the sideline both come to mind.

I don't know, that doesn't pass the eye-ball test.

Seriously, though, he puts some zip on those short/intermediate throws. I watch that softie Matt Ryan most of the time, and he seems to favor side-line throws with more touch. Cutler was just... drat.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

R.D. Mangles posted:

Willie Young is fine as well.

drat, I forgot he went to Chicago. I miss that guy.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Chilichimp posted:

I don't know, that doesn't pass the eye-ball test.

Seriously, though, he puts some zip on those short/intermediate throws. I watch that softie Matt Ryan most of the time, and he seems to favor side-line throws with more touch. Cutler was just... drat.

Harder to intercept his softballs on those backshoulder throws.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

DangerKat posted:

Harder to intercept his softballs on those backshoulder throws.

I think that's the idea, yeah, throw soft on the back shoulder or throw it so fast into traffic that anyone who isn't expecting a ball won't have time to react.

DupaDupa
May 21, 2009

I'm Samurai Mike
I stop 'em cold.

football fuckerman posted:

Bears got any DEs waiting in the wings? I thought Jared Allen looked completely ineffective unless he knew a pass was coming. Which I think is the definition of pass-rush specialist, not every-down starter

Beat writers were saying after the game that Allen was facing double teams on nearly every snap...but that's not what I saw at all. I usually assume people who are paid to talk about football know more than me, I guess it's possible I missed something. Anyway if the wheels fall off Allen then Young becomes the full time starter and either Cornelius Washington or David Bass step in. Washington has been an interesting prospect but so far he hasn't been able to put his absurd measurables together at all.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Gruden spent at least some time on every Jets possession talking about how great a job D'Brickashaw Ferguson was doing blocking Jared Allen.

I mean, this isn't shocking, Allen is getting older. The Falcons are dealing with the same issue with Osi on the roster, except the Falcons only use him as a situational pass rusher now, because he's a liability otherwise.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Allen looks relatively skinny and old.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

I mean Geno played like poo poo, deserved to lose, etc. We all know the offense is going to look like trash when David Nelson and Greg Salas are your outside receivers. But they really did get hosed on the Cutler fumble that should have been 7. And the phantom PI to gift the Bears a 1st and goal? Yeah, that should have been OPI instead where Jeffery pulled down Walls' arm.



It was winnable game and they weren't helped out by some horrific officiating.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Yeah, it's kind of bullshit that the ref's blow turnovers dead like that. It's going to get reviewed anyway, why not let it play out and then make the right call in the booth?

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Chilichimp posted:

Yeah, it's kind of bullshit that the ref's blow turnovers dead like that. It's going to get reviewed anyway, why not let it play out and then make the right call in the booth?

Because the refs are for the most part dumb as poo poo.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Ozu posted:

I mean Geno played like poo poo, deserved to lose, etc. We all know the offense is going to look like trash when David Nelson and Greg Salas are your outside receivers. But they really did get hosed on the Cutler fumble that should have been 7. And the phantom PI to gift the Bears a 1st and goal? Yeah, that should have been OPI instead where Jeffery pulled down Walls' arm.



It was winnable game and they weren't helped out by some horrific officiating.

Shrug, The Bears got the most bullshit phantom defensive holding call I have ever seen called against them to get the Jets into the redzone on the final drive.

That and the PI equal each other out.

The Fumble sucked, but the whistle blew before the Jets player even picked up the ball, and at live speed that totally looked like ground forcing the fumble.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Ozu posted:

I mean Geno played like poo poo, deserved to lose, etc. We all know the offense is going to look like trash when David Nelson and Greg Salas are your outside receivers. But they really did get hosed on the Cutler fumble that should have been 7. And the phantom PI to gift the Bears a 1st and goal? Yeah, that should have been OPI instead where Jeffery pulled down Walls' arm.



It was winnable game and they weren't helped out by some horrific officiating.

The idea that Idzik thought it would be enough to bring in 1 competent WR on a team with not one NFL caliber starting WR last 2 seasons is almost a hard to believe as his pathetic bungling of the CB situation.

Dexo posted:

Shrug, The Bears got the most bullshit phantom defensive holding call I have ever seen called against them to get the Jets into the redzone on the final drive.

That and the PI equal each other out.

The Fumble sucked, but the whistle blew before the Jets player even picked up the ball, and at live speed that totally looked like ground forcing the fumble.
This is hilarious.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."

Dexo posted:

Shrug, The Bears got the most bullshit phantom defensive holding call I have ever seen called against them to get the Jets into the redzone on the final drive.

That and the PI equal each other out.

The Fumble sucked, but the whistle blew before the Jets player even picked up the ball, and at live speed that totally looked like ground forcing the fumble.

No, not really to your last two points. The Defensive holding was very much a fake penalty (but the DPI should have been OPI and therefore was a far worse blunder).

The fumble ruling was egregious, really no defending that call.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

mcmagic posted:

The idea that Idzik thought it would be enough to bring in 1 competent WR on a team with not one NFL caliber starting WR last 2 seasons is almost a hard to believe as his pathetic bungling of the CB situation.
I agree on the receiver situation. I really don't think the CBs have played all that badly aside from a gimpy Milliner in the GB game though. Allen and Walls are competent replacements; David Nelson is not.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

mcmagic posted:

The idea that Idzik thought it would be enough to bring in 1 competent WR on a team with not one NFL caliber starting WR last 2 seasons is almost a hard to believe as his pathetic bungling of the CB situation.

This is hilarious.

Wait what?

How is it laughable that a bad Defensive holding call to change a 3rd and long to a 1st and 10 inside the redzone on the final drive of the game is so far removed from a bad DPI call which did the same(only not in the final important moments of a game)

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Ozu posted:

I agree on the receiver situation. I really don't think the CBs have played all that badly aside from a gimpy Milliner in the GB game though. Allen and Walls are competent replacements; David Nelson is not.

The CB's have been OK at times (especially in tackling) but you're judging them on a huge curve. There were blown coverages all over the place last night and the drive to start the 2nd half was an embarrassment.


Dexo posted:

Wait what?

How is it laughable that a bad Defensive holding call to change a 3rd and long to a 1st and 10 inside the redzone on the final drive of the game is so far removed from a bad DPI call which did the same(only not in the final important moments of a game)

Because you had already benefited from a 14 point swing due to HORRIBLE calls or that play doesn't even matter?

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ozu posted:

I agree on the receiver situation. I really don't think the CBs have played all that badly aside from a gimpy Milliner in the GB game though. Allen and Walls are competent replacements; David Nelson is not.

Once you're starting the 4th or 5th-string cornerback, you should expect to see your secondary get torched by veteran QB's.

I don't understand the WR thing either. Once you or someone else pointed out that the Jets drafted all of 2 WR's in the top 3 rounds in the last decade, I went from not-understanding to thinking-this-is-a-prank. All I can think of is Idzik looking at all of the weaknesses on the roster and then checking the draft boards/FA and goes "gently caress it, Brady throws to nobodies in New England every drat day," without ever stopping to realize he's starting Geno Smith at Quarterback.

John Idzik: "If it's good enough for Belichick..."

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Dexo posted:

How is it laughable that a bad Defensive holding call to change a 3rd and long to a 1st and 10 inside the redzone on the final drive of the game is so far removed from a bad DPI call which did the same(only not in the final important moments of a game)
Let's place one ball on the 1 yard line and the other at the 15.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Chilichimp posted:

Once you're starting the 4th or 5th-string cornerback, you should expect to see your secondary get torched by veteran QB's.

The don't understand the WR thing either. Once you or someone else pointed out that the Jets drafted all of 2 WR's in the top 3 rounds in the last decade, I went from not-understanding to thinking-this-is-a-prank. All I can think of is Idzik looking at all of the weaknesses on the roster and then checking the draft boards/FA and goes "gently caress it, Brady throws to nobodies in New England every drat day," without ever stopping to realize he's starting Geno Smith at Quarterback.

John Idzik: "If it's good enough for Belichick..."

Don't forget that Idzik drafted 3 WR's in the draft this season and they have all been utter crap.

Lazerbeam
Feb 4, 2011

R.D. Mangles posted:

Kyle Fuller owns, he is the only defensive Bear who doesn't infuriate me. I can't believe the Bears can't find a linebacker somewhere, anywhere that is better than Jon Bostic.

I don't really get this comment. Bostic played really well and the two rookie DTs played well too. It's not exactly the 2013 bears D out there.

GNU Order
Feb 28, 2011

That's a paddlin'

Watching Geno wheel out of the pocket and choose to make the worst throws in history rather than run it loving baffled me.

Like as soon as he let go of the ball after swinging outside I was waiting for the camera to pan to a wide open Jeremy Kerley but instead it was constantly a bad throw to a perfectly covered receiver.

The thing that surprised me the most is the turnaround in Pass Pro for the Bears. Like, they start to look like an actual football team now. Run blocking is a different story, though

e- Also Bostic looks really good (minus the dropped pick) when he's not over-pursuing the run or making those mental errors

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

For the most part, it appeared Geno ran out of the pocket when in many instances he could've just stepped forward and made a throw.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

John Brown posted:

For the most part, it appeared Geno ran out of the pocket when in many instances he could've just stepped forward and made a throw.

Make one read and go, RG3 would do the same thing

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

GNU Order posted:

Watching Geno wheel out of the pocket and choose to make the worst throws in history rather than run it loving baffled me.

Like as soon as he let go of the ball after swinging outside I was waiting for the camera to pan to a wide open Jeremy Kerley but instead it was constantly a bad throw to a perfectly covered receiver.

The thing that surprised me the most is the turnaround in Pass Pro for the Bears. Like, they start to look like an actual football team now. Run blocking is a different story, though

e- Also Bostic looks really good (minus the dropped pick) when he's not over-pursuing the run or making those mental errors

Bostic is showing a lot of the stuff that we saw in pre-season last year that made everyone love him. He could be a pretty good piece if stops making mental mistakes.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Off topic but what's the deal with the new AV chilli?

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

waah posted:

Off topic but what's the deal with the new AV chilli?

He complained about a dude having a Ray Rice Elevator video avatar so someone got him a Belcher avatar.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

waah posted:

Off topic but what's the deal with the new AV chilli?

Yeah, got me a trophy courtesy of Earthly Ape Unit.

I super don't want to post with this avatar, I might just lurk for a while.

Chichevache posted:

He complained about a dude having a Ray Rice Elevator video avatar so someone got him a Belcher avatar.

It was Earthly Ape Unit, which is a gimmick troll account. He's got a rap sheet longer than yours and mine combined and been on the forums for all of 3 months.

Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 23, 2014

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Can someone get a Gif of Nick Folk prior to kicking the field goal, where he's raising the roof for like 5 seconds with a dead look on his face?

pasaluki
Feb 27, 2008

THIS WHAGON HAS NO BREAKS! I HAVE THE HEART OF THE BUUFALO the strength OF THE MOUNTAIN, THE FURY OF THE THUNDER AND MY WILL IS UNBREAKABLE! I will not surrender to KNOW ONE
Late but drat it is easy to forget how good Phillip Rivers is. He played great and adjusted his throws against the wind and was really accurate. I don't think the Bills defense had a bad game so much as the Chargers really game planned.

The Bills offense is a loving piece of goddamned poo poo. I hang the loss squarely on them. They scored 10 points and then 2 points for the other team.

Manuel has terrible accuracy and leads his WRs into deathtraps. Nobody is surprised when Goodwin gets injured due to a lovely floating throw.

He doesn't need to be benched but I don't really know how as a QB you can just suddenly discover accuracy so I'm not hopeful.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

No Butt Stuff posted:

Can someone get a Gif of Nick Folk prior to kicking the field goal, where he's raising the roof for like 5 seconds with a dead look on his face?

That's him asking for the play clock to be reset, yea?

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
If only the refs hadn't called a qb draw on 3rd and goal from the 3. Stupid refs.

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Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
See him straight up tackle geno smith? It's like wtf goodell

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