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So, I think we just caught Hal_2005 and a crony trying to get into LPC HQ today.
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, I think we just caught Hal_2005 and a crony trying to get into LPC HQ today. What makes you think it was him? Also you can't just dangle a story like this in front the the thread. Do you want us to beg? I'll beg. Please share this potentially hilarious tory story. Please.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:14
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, I think we just caught Hal_2005 and a crony trying to get into LPC HQ today. Kly posted:this isnt how railways work Seriously, pretty much the entire NE line along 36th should be trenched or something, if only to prevent morons playing chicken with the train.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:16
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OSI bean dip posted:Or the Arbutus corridor in Vancouver which remained dormant for 10 years and the locals decided to plant gardens on what was still CP property. Arbutus line a very different situation. CP is trying to force the city to change the zoning so CP can sell the land to condo developers at a high price, whereas the city wants to preserve the land as a transportation corridor. The land is useless for commercial rail activities.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:17
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Also depending on what the train is doing the crossing can be blocked for a loooong time. I'm not sure the exact regulations, but for a lot of grade crossings there's no actual rule the railways have to follow to minimize the time its blocked. So a train can just sit there for an hour if it wants/needs to. Freight rail should not have level crossings anywhere in an urban area or remotely near where any switching is going on.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:20
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Baronjutter posted:What makes you think it was him? Also you can't just dangle a story like this in front the the thread. Do you want us to beg? I'll beg. Please share this potentially hilarious tory story. Please. Patience. When I am not in the office ibwill share.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:29
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lonelywurm posted:At-grade crossings for major roads blocked for 45 seconds every five minutes. This isn't done maliciously by the railroad though because they were hosed with and are "gently caress[ing] back. And hard." like he was implying. Baronjutter posted:...there's no actual rule the railways have to follow to minimize the time its blocked. So a train can just sit there for an hour if it wants/needs to. There are rules for this, not good ones but there are rules. They can't occupy a crossing for more than 8? minutes (i think, its been a while) before they have to either pull off the crossing or cut the train at the crossing to allow traffic through. If an emergency vehicle is at a crossing while the train is occupying it they have to clear it ASAP.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:38
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Kly posted:This isn't done maliciously by the railroad though because they were hosed with and are "gently caress[ing] back. And hard." like he was implying.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:41
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Kly posted:This isn't done maliciously by the railroad though because they were hosed with and are "gently caress[ing] back. And hard." like he was implying. Isn't that only on "major" streets though? Or maybe it's different in Canada/US. I know some american friends who live sort of near a rail-yard so there's a minor street that can get blocked for up to an hour when they're doing switching ops there. It's not a huge deal since there's another crossing really close by, but to get to that other crossing you have to back-track a ways and it's a pain so it's always a guessing game if that route will be clear or not.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:41
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Baronjutter posted:Also depending on what the train is doing the crossing can be blocked for a loooong time. I'm not sure the exact regulations, but for a lot of grade crossings there's no actual rule the railways have to follow to minimize the time its blocked. So a train can just sit there for an hour if it wants/needs to. Remember, most rail lines pre-date cities.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:44
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bunnyofdoom posted:So, I think we just caught Hal_2005 and a crony trying to get into LPC HQ today. Are you still convinced that Hal is a Tory plant and not a 20 something person trying to sound important on the internet?
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Jul 24, 2015 20:48
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Baronjutter posted:Isn't that only on "major" streets though? Again its been a long time since I actually read the rule, but from what I remember it applies to every crossing on every road. The thing is that 8minutes only starts when a vehicle is actually being blocked, so on a minor road with an alternate route most people are going to turn their car around after theyve seen the train go forward, stop, and go backward five or six times in 4 minutes.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:50
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Kafka Esq. posted:Are you still convinced that Hal is a Tory plant and not a 20 something person trying to sound important on the internet? At this point, I agree with you, hence why I think he dropped by with a crony.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:51
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David Corbett posted:You can tell it's an election year, because the federal government just showed up with a cheque for $1.53 billion dollars for the LRT Green Line from Centre-North to SE Calgary. The hope is that it will serve 40,000,000 riders a year or about 110,000 a day (presumably more on weekdays). If that's true, it'll take Calgary Transit LRT ridership to about 450,000 a day. Great news for Calgary! From the CBC Article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/green-line-transitway-in-calgary-gets-1-53b-pledge-from-ottawa-1.3166511 quote:... So they're going the 1/3 each government route that seems to be the norm for all of these urban infrastructure projects. Doesn't make much sense to me, as municipalities have the least ability to pay by a wide margin. So long as Gregor's NDP past doesn't prove too much of a political hurdle, Vancouver should be able to easily fund their Broadway line through Federal help alongside property taxes and development fees. Some of the ridings the Conservatives could win are along the Broadway corridor so a pre-election funding announcement would make sense... Metro Vancouver's transit plan that was rejected in the referendum would have extended rail into low density areas of Surrey and Langley with low transit use. I deeply doubt Surrey and Langley have the ability to use development costs to fund transit as effectively as Vancouver can. It will be very hard for those cities to pay for mega projects. As a result of the referendum failing I'm fairly skeptical that Surrey and Langley will get rail any time soon. These infrastructure projects can only work so well without the significant increase in bus service in order to get people to the stations. That means increased operating costs that aren't accounted for in election friendly piles of cash. This was one of the major benefits of the tax increase in the Vancouver transit referendum in that it'd provide a steady and dependable cash flow.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:52
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So.....we're been hearing more stuff that the writ drop will be the 6th. Ministerial staff have been told to pack it up on the 3rd.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:53
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Kafka Esq. posted:Are you still convinced that Hal is a Tory plant and not a 20 something person trying to sound important on the internet? I think it's more likely Hal is a prototype CSIS online disruptor script, with occasional human programmer intervention and tuning when the Google Search fruit salad goes too far off the rails.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:57
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bunnyofdoom posted:So.....we're been hearing more stuff that the writ drop will be the 6th. Ministerial staff have been told to pack it up on the 3rd. A Thursday writ drop?
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Jul 24, 2015 21:04
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Kly posted:this isnt how railways work Oh, I guess the 23 minute wait at the train crossing near the Whitemud and 99th St. in Edmonton I had that made me late for work this morning didn't happen if that's not how railways work.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:12
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Mederlock posted:Oh, I guess the 23 minute wait at the train crossing near the Whitemud and 99th St. in Edmonton I had that made me late for work this morning didn't happen if that's not how railways work. Man, gently caress that train. That line runs right through the middle of the city and should have been shut down or dedicated to passenger trains (lol) decades ago.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:15
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   e:  "the moratorium will force provinces to propose solutions or conclude that abolition is the only answer" 
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Jul 24, 2015 21:16
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vyelkin posted:This is perfect for my weird OP, please make more.  I know he's not in armour, but I couldn't resist that pose for Angry Tom.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:18
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That was fast- I came here to post about those tweets. Also, what time zone are you in that they read as 8:15PM?
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Jul 24, 2015 21:20
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Baronjutter posted:
I like watching the train go across 11th St SW. I'm a wierdo like that. Also, I'm never in a rush down that way. 
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Jul 24, 2015 21:21
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The Dark One posted:That was fast- I came here to post about that tweet. Also, what time zone are you in? I use tweetcap.ca to convert tweets to imgur images, it uses GMT+0 for its timestamps.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:21
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Square Peg posted:Man, gently caress that train. That line runs right through the middle of the city and should have been shut down or dedicated to passenger trains (lol) decades ago. Yeah, it's total bullshit. At the very least, they should not be allowed to do switching operations or whatever it is they do where they take up the only three crossings within 15 blocks for 8-20 minutes during rush hour traffic.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:22
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lonelywurm posted:Prince Mulcair, Lord of Outremont, and Pretender to the Throne: Don't stop. Please don't stop.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:22
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Mederlock posted:Oh, I guess the 23 minute wait at the train crossing near the Whitemud and 99th St. in Edmonton I had that made me late for work this morning didn't happen if that's not how railways work. Again that wasnt being done maliciously which is what pt6 was saying they do. The railways just natural gently caress people, they dont have to try. Ive worked that exact job that was holding you up, its switching out the intermodal yard and if there was literally nothing moving for 23 minutes that crew got demarits or fired. Ive had to go out to the crossing on that job before and lift the gates to let traffic through because we had it blocked too long and were too big to clear the bond, had to do it two times before we were short enough to clear. Ill stop the train chat cause thats not what this thread is for but i promise the railways and the rail crews are not TRYING to gently caress anyone by having trains on crossings.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:31
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Yeah, I know they aren't doing it maliciously at all; when that yard was first built there was practically nothing around it. It's just profoundly annoying
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Jul 24, 2015 21:36
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lonelywurm posted:Prince Mulcair, Lord of Outremont, and Pretender to the Throne:  please don't stop these are amazing and perfect for my big fat dumb stupid OP.
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Jul 24, 2015 22:05
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Kly posted:Again that wasnt being done maliciously which is what pt6 was saying they do. The railways just natural gently caress people, they dont have to try. I like Canadian train chat  To keep it more political, maybe you could tell us more about railway regulations and how railways, the government, and local authorities interact/work together (or don't) ?
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Jul 24, 2015 22:09
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How noble of Harper to call a moratorium on new senate appointments only after he's had ten years to stack it with his cronies.
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Jul 24, 2015 22:10
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How bad is Harper polling in Calgary to drop 1.5B into the riding?
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Jul 24, 2015 22:14
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David Corbett posted:How noble of Harper to call a moratorium on new senate appointments only after he's had ten years to stack it with his cronies. He actually promised in 2006 to only appoint elected senators. This lasted...oh, about a day (Fortier), but then he didn't appoint anyone until the Christmas Coalition Crisis in 2008 when he was in danger of losing power (as a bonus, that appointment class got us Duffy, Wallin, AND Patrick Brazeau). He also hasn't appointed anyone since 2013 and is presently being sued under the reasonable constitutional theory that saying the executive shall do something means that they have to do it. Long story short, he's only announcing something he's a) announced and broken before, and b) been doing without fanfare for the past two years.
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Jul 24, 2015 22:20
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El Scotch posted:I like watching the train go across 11th St SW. I'm a wierdo like that. That's my least favourite, because it's directly between my apartment and the grocery store. It's easy walking distance, but I always drive now because I want to be able to easily use 8th or 14th to get back under the tracks if the train is crossing.
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Jul 24, 2015 22:28
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jm20 posted:How bad is Harper polling in Calgary to drop 1.5B into the riding? Riding? We have eight, and this train will go through at least half of them. (Hard not to, it's huge.) We've got ten for the next election, which still leaves us a bit underrepresented (~120k ppl per riding vs upcoming national average of ~105k) but it's an improvement. E: wow I missed the point hard - yeah hopefully calgarians will realize the manifold benefits of actually voting for more than one party, among them being that the federal government actually occasionally feels tempted to do its job David Corbett has issued a correction as of 22:39 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 22:35
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lonelywurm posted:Prince Mulcair, Lord of Outremont, and Pretender to the Throne: The Layton in the back is the perfect touch. Please keep it up. 
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Jul 24, 2015 22:46
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Furnaceface posted:The Layton in the back is the perfect touch. Please keep it up. Rumour has it that there's a room, deep in the warren-like bowels of the Hall, that holds the death mask of the mythical Lord Douglas. (thanks, guys; I'm working on others)
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Jul 24, 2015 22:51
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Pinterest Mom posted:
Is it wrong I want one of the provinces to sue because they aren't being represented in Parliament because of the moratorium.
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Jul 24, 2015 23:18
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Shouldn't you be studying how to not blow up a nuclear reactor, BattleMaster?
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Wouldn't an early writ drop hurt the CPC? The logic should go that they were the ones who introduced the fix election date legislation, yet they proceed to ignore it. Would that be an issue the opposition could flank, or would it be too petty to have resonance outside of politics? (I remember it kind of mattering in the Alberta election.)
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