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Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Kimsemus posted:

Today in As The ArcheAge Turns: fishing goons get mad about people saying hurtful things in guild chat, and pirating their fishing spots.

More at 11.

Reaching fishing agreements is inherently anti-free market and the socialist reign of terror is already starting to show strain. Too many fishing ships at a single location causes insane lag and I really doubt the profitability of fishing. Unless you are filling a ship yourself, you are going to be limited to 2-3 fish that all need to be 30 or 37k and take 30-45+ minutes round trip if you include time searching for spawns.

In reality, hunting fishing fleets is likely the best way to make money until they stop being such easy targets. You can kill and steal enough large fish for the pirates in 1/2 the time and if you have a fishing boat, fill it up with your ill gotten gains.

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Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Kimsemus posted:

Gold isn't going to do anything for you, people are getting privately wealthy, which isn't going to make them better players, and they won't be able to pace with the rising gear costs.

The people I see complaining about bots and hackers ruining the economy I also see fishing all day to get more gold. I gave up on trying to buy gear or even attempt making it because archeum prices are insane (very few people are making money crafting Illustrious/Magnificent gear) until I can get the mats to make it. There are way much more Captains of Industry doing trade runs and fishing than botters picking coin purses (who we should thank any way for bringing Archeum into the system) and a whole lot less methods of removing gold from the system (the AH cut helps, but can't keep up with the limited need to buy/sell on AH for gear). I kind of wish they made trade pack running have a wider range than 70-130% and kick in earlier and do something similar with fishing (it would also make people fish more than sailfish and marlin) or go full Bitcoin with it to hilarious effect.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
GOONFLEET in game and in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhgsqSBHA6M

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Flavahbeast posted:

Goon Squad
Something Lawlful
Too East Too Furrious
Wicked
GOONFLEET
More Money than Sense
Forestcrow
Customer Support
Rude Dudes
Valor


did i miss any

You forgot to put VALOR #1

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
The game is on a long decline. Inflation is rampant, gear grind is inevitable, I have determined that the best course of action is wholesale piracy and liquidating assets.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Third World Reggin posted:

FC hates wicked more than they hate goons.

FC has feedz who is a goon, relatively high up there, and has a close line of communication with goon squad.

If it fucks wicked over, they are ok with it.

Feedz killed me when I went to check on his illegal farm for thunderstrucks. Then again, the trees were missing and hadn't completely grown so I think someone uprooted them and it was misplaced anger.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
I am going to give you guys a little PSA right now.

If you plan on being a stable, normal person in a leadership position, just do the opposite of anything that the previous officers did.

1) Let people know your plans. Speculation and the rumors it starts are worse than letting people know you are helping them in secret for "opsec".

2) Schedule meetings when people are on and provide notes for those not there. Halloween may seem like a good time for major decisions, but a couple of people may be unable to attend.

3) Don't take everything you don't agree with as subversion (or goonfucking), especially if you failed to obey point number 1.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
I am confused at why the guys that left the guild keep showing up and demonstrating why we are having much more fun with them out of the guild. It seems like the people who espoused the most bullshit about 'goonuism' turned out to be the biggest crybaby 'goonbertarians' imaginable.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

GreatestNerdEver posted:



followed by people agreeing

balista is a cool guy, sure, but come on

Funneling to the guy that keeps giving us pack materials and packs in payment for helping him move things? Have you even logged into the game or mumble in the past few days?

Between him, Werkwerk, and a few others, 10-20 people a day get free mats to craft packs for themselves on the Eastern continent, ferry them to the west, and let them turn it in for ~20 gold profit in under 30 minutes.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
I wonder where everyone is? There are usually 50+ vases down this close to quest reset.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

30.5 Days posted:

I haven't gotten poo poo, as I keep reminding everyone.

They were going to pay you off in fishing. Kind of like when you loan money to a friend and he pays you back by letting you cover a few of his shifts for a portion of his wages.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
As someone who was on both fishing guild events and donated the proceeds to the guild, it sure seems like goonfucking when you scam a bunch of non-fishing goons to funnel money to the fishing goons so only fishing goons can get gear.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Dahn posted:

Fishing is by nature/game mechanics a care bear activity.
Goons started rubbing junk together with pubs and other goons didn't like that.

Who knew rubbing a junk into a fishing ship would cause so much trouble (note: both the junk and fishing ship were of legal age).

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Umbreon posted:

I've got 130 saved up now and building up the supply. How many Gilda can you realistically get in a single day excluding turning in packs?

I believe you can get 5 from dailies, 3 from the meal quests, and 2 from Grimghast.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Third World Reggin posted:

People are upset with certain goon members dropping the guild tag to join the fisher fleet only to report where the fishermen are.

If they start to get wise, we will have to make a new guild called <Burly FisherMen> just so they know we aren't spies.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Third World Reggin posted:

They had a tier armor system in place no one knew about until the first wall keep and the boss killed everyone since no one had the tier of armor that prevented that damage.

Then they didn't introduce the dungeons that dropped the right tiers for ages.

They also let you use a class to pull people through walls to kill them.

The throne room didn't even matter because of the horrific lag that showed up even with the limited number of people in the zone. The only keep I saw fall was when the sever crashed with both gates down and the attackers could organize faster than the defenders.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
I don't understand the anger, I am happy that he offered a Mumble after the "dark times", and can understand the cold heat death it died from lack of users.

I am sad of losing the guild, but only play for ~15 minutes a day doing dailies and farming and can't be bothered to get back into the guild. I also have a ton of mats for the charcoal runs if people are doing them, but don't know who to send them to.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
The only good thing I have heard about Black Desert is they character creation is ridiculously in depth. On the flip side, there are several leveling systems, no quest experience (keep on grindin'), and it is still a KMMO.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

kznlol posted:

IT HAPPENED TO ME AGAIN

I lost around 1k due to the TS market crash and now I lost like 700g because they reactivated APEX before I managed to unload my stockpile.

TRION

Like all investment schemes, it is usually best to diversify.

As Wu-Tang Financial says, "Diversify your bonds, bitch".

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
I was in the CTS chat talking with someone about to get their large farm and disconnected. The other goons working with him were angry with the disappearance, especially after I cut down all my trees, but you can make it up to me by performing the following video. This is how little I feel about the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htWFMyKSy8o

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

InternetJunky posted:

I understand the change related to owner changes, but why do this for people who built a cottage, saved the teleport location, then replaced the property with a farm?

Because they intended the ports to be tied to fireplaces and that is why you need the log and ink to record the location?

People love to complain about exploits and hacks, but once their exploit is closed, "Trion has gone too far!" This only effects the massive land barons who are a minority in the game anyway.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

InternetJunky posted:

Yes, clearly porting to a spot that's saved in your teleport book is a "exploit and hack". You're pretty ignorant if you believe the only people this impacts are land barons. Anyone who has a stray farm far away from a port location is affected.

InternetJunky posted:

Yes, clearly porting to a spot that's saved in your teleport book is a "exploit and hack". You're pretty ignorant if you believe the only people this impacts are land barons. Anyone who has a stray farm far away from a port location is affected.

"Stray farms" totally sounds like something people with only 1 or 2 plots of land would say.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Eonwe posted:

I do think its funny that one of the main understandings among people that work on stuff that is a 24x7x365 service is that downtime happens when it isn't peak time

its like they have a manager that is too loving scared to be like 'ok maintenance window is at 3 am EST.' Instead they do it at loving primetime. :psyduck:

Have you seen the complaints in this thread when they have the audacity to have a downtime on a weekday at 9 AM? Thee only thing I hope is that they do it quickly and not have a repeat of servergeddon from a few weeks ago.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Eonwe posted:

from a recent EVE goonmeet



Ban everyone in this picture.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

DancingShade posted:

I only log in to block the court house and make people angry.




10 days of patron left. Will I be renewing? gently caress no.

How else will he generate labor while AFK for dozens of hours at a time?

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Eonwe posted:

yea goons are just pubbies who paid 10 dollars mostly

They also have a sense of entitlement because they assume any Goon Guild will automatically be like in Eve (another terrible game), which is why the corpse piling strategy was so funny to watch.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Angela Christine posted:

Something has gone terribly wrong here.



I'm stuck on a bridge, in the air. There is nothing here to be stuck on. Another cart just drove under me.

RIP Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane, never going to catch those Duke boys now.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

balistafreak posted:

The best part of this is the guildchat in the last two pictures: the rage at the "loving mexicans".

It's really unfortunate that Chanchos isn't larger. The only other real guild we'd be able to impersonate currently would be the Tax Evasion Police or MAYBE the "No Life No Game" (call ourselves "No Game No Life" and see how many people actually notice the difference). There's POTENTIALLY "Nulan Vanguard" but I think the difference between that and "Nuian Vanguard" would be too noticeable.

RE: Guild inviting:

1. I don't have invite powers except in Chanchos, where everyone has invite powers, and Chanchos is a throwaway shell guild.
2. Because of the way this game works, I'm afk 90% of the time and it's ridiculously easy to delete mails; as I'm a huge AH marketeer I swipe through my mailbox in seconds without even thinking, because no one actually uses in game mail in this game because it's poo poo.

I quit this game months ago because I couldn't be bothered in the gear treadmill, but you were always working hard to make it fun for all. I am glad I spent the extra :10bux: to buy my CDC t-shirt and after seeing and hearing about these shenanigans, I am tempted to come back.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Charles Bukowski posted:

There was a couple days where part of the guild was trolling the fishing goons hard, that was actually fun.

I loved when Kimsemus was forced out of the guild and about a dozen of us also left, created a guild suspiciously similarly named after the original guild and started pirating fishermen as hard as possible. Then the guild imploded and everyone was invited back 2 days later.

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Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
Can we change the thread name because none of us are Stable Normal People.

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