Eonwe posted:

you can't leave us hanging

we need examples

which goon, which guilds are they going to, and how did your guild respond


feels bad man

Malakesh posted:

I find this hilarious considering Tdad, myself and nagamitsu as well as a few others were pretty much blasting it in gchat and irc and the offsite. I think there were even a few posts on here. We stated that we had multiple officer meetings on planning and implementation. The large pack moving that we did with preph for getting charcoal to gear up goons was a direct result of this. gently caress I even put it in all caps in gchat multiple times. We had qlso mentioned that turtledad was going to be the next glead. I guess it's easy to throw those sanctimonious blinders on.

Edit: once again we have an example of people spouting nonsense when they have no idea what they are talking about.

balistafreak posted:

Digital Fingers posted:

I'm not in GS but why don't you guys just do a weekly membership tax or something? All members pay 50 gold a week or equivalent in raw materials to a slush fund and then keep the difference for themselves.

My guild funnels all their money to me and it works fine but we're only ~12 people and have know each other for a while; I don't think this stuffs viable with a large amount of people b/c this kind of stuff takes trust and if the trust isn't there poo poo falls apart fast. Expecting people to give their time and elf gold to someone they don't have a relationship with past "They also payed 10$" seems like a great way to build resentment.

idk just free styling over here.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

I'd doubt that any of them is going to show up in any position of leadership in MMOs with a big focus on PVP anymore because Werk and Reggin are usually some of the first to join in. Reggin in particular will deal with all the chinagames from now till the heatdeath of the universe.

Reminder Jack was a j4g pubbie that joined for AoW. The game whose guild was originally lead by Reggin and Werk. How quick does one allegiance turns when money fish is involved.

JackDRipper posted:

Truth be told I made every effort to come to an agreement with those left in charge. What am I supposed to do hand over 600 gold gear to screaming idiots that had no part in its earning making or event fishing thanks but no thanks. You wanted monies I provided a way to recoup for people involved. I could care crap all about fake money in a game. I will continue to help where I can when I can. For those screaming goonfucker and j4g well your entitled to your opinion.So long and thanks for all the fish.

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What am I supposed to do hand over 600 gold gear to screaming idiots that had no part in its earning

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I could care crap all about fake money in a game.

sword_man.xmas posted:

all well and good, but we know who is the true Puppet Of The Imp Zone Trolls

Widestancer posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3679286

Third World Reggin posted:

It is pretty easily actually.

Kimsemus tried for a solution when werkwerk and I showed up.
The fishers did not and kept repeating the history of fishing even when asked not to.
Kimsemus left the guild voluntarily to prevent issues.
The fishers not satisfied, after a few days also left.

One side acted much more reasonable when sat down and asked to find a solution.

The other side is a collection of the following
"No one will ever respect you because you are level 1"
"You guys are just imp zone trolls"
"You haven't suffered enough to lead the guild"
"You haven't helped out enough in this game, screw other games with goons"
I will get you banned from any goon group I can
We worked so hard and all of our plans were thrown away. No we would not like to work together from now on.
We want the old fishing rules back. So they are still in effect? *continues to complain for 30 minutes*
"You kicked my family member, I'm outie. I took the guild bank with me"
"I didn't want to be guild leader except the officers having decided that I will be guild leader, let me leave with all the castle materials"
"You didn't respond to me fast enough. I don't care if people were constantly messaging you about fishing and you were busy."
"Kimsemus is the real goon fucker here, not all these guys who actively hosed the guild and refused to work together"

For the most part, the people who had issues, and therefor created drama, left when they didn't get their way even when things they asked for were agreed upon. When asked to work towards the future, they left. The pvp group said the future sounded cool and hip.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

im asking Space Important people why he was kicked

jeffraider posted:

Badge of Honor.

jeffraider posted:

Did the proof meet ur irl law job standards?

just wondering if you are a hypocrite or retard

Third World Reggin posted:

Kimsemus I got a something for you



Go get a poster of this.

ruffz posted:

This whole "I'm unimportant in ArcheAge, but I'll ban you in some other MMO where I'm a neckbeard personality because you hosed with my fish" thing is just too funny.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

update: after getting the runaround by people who ostensibly know and asking a bunch of people who don't know I got about as straight an answer as I'll get unless mittani tells me why himself

That answer is digi(goonfleet spy catcher and creepy rear end in a top hat) banned him for reasons hinted on spying/"mixed loyalties" and I got a few assurances from a guy I've known for a long time and he's never lied so I truly do him that said it had nothing to do with this drama

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<Midge> so Kimsemus https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Kimsemus go gently caress yourself
<Midge> victory
<balistafreak> did you
<ThirdWorldRaygun> explain to me the eve link
<balistafreak> are you serious
<Midge> got him kicked from goonwaffe
<Midge> shrekt
<Midge> i didnt really go out of my way
<Midge> im a director in gsf... it took 0 effort

Velthice posted:

Third World Reggin posted:

DBRB got kicked from goon squad for creating drama. This is pretty much going to other goon communities and trying to get kimsemus kicked.

If we kicked for drama, most goons would be gone from the guild. If this was for comedy, it would of been fine and someone who kicked him would of reinvited him right away. That didn't happen.

DBRB is a lovely person for sure, and kicking him for that is about the same thing. Not quite, but close enough. DBRB acting like an idiot and sperg means he will hang him self within the goon community sooner or later and I don't want to remove his chance to do that within AA.

I will reinvite him back, and if he gets kicked, I kick kimsemus. Thems the rule.

If he keeps getting kicked, I keep removing people with kick powers.

Try not to be just as bad as DBRB.

Deutsch Nozzle posted:

it was me, i kicked him

ruffz posted:

The vast majority of my land (2 large farms, 1 thatched, 1 cottage, 1 small farm) was dedicated to Thunderstruck farming after I randomly got 2 of them inside 24 hours. Now I'm going to tear down all of the trees and figure out what to put in all of that space. I'm thinking about dropping 15 honey larders and spacing the times apart so I get 5 every day for my farm wagon. I assume that everyone is going to have a farm wagon all of a sudden, so regular trade packs are never going to be at 130% anymore. I guess I'll put cow pens at each corner of my thatched plot.

Atown posted:

In before the charcoal pact. No killing greens with east packs.

Umbreon posted:

Reporting my personal experience with the above mentioned east guilds:

AussieAge: after i went unpirate, i joined up with them. They seem very condensed in terms of how pubbielike they are, they can go from joking around in gchat to at each others throats because they literally keep killing each other in hasla.

They also did not like the fact that me and a friend stole a fishing boat from BWTC. BWTC went crying to a guild officer after me and a (unguilded and fresh 50) buddy managed to kill the crew of a BWTC fishing boat and steal it. Said officer whispered me sometime later wondering wtf i was thinking, and after he started explaining things about "FISHING PACTS" and "respect fishing", I saw the life of this thread flashing before my eyes and gquit. (I did say to tell BWTC that i was kicked for my heinous crimes)

Tl; dr: dont join aussieage if you plan on not respecting fishing.



Traphouse: I saw a group of 6 traphouse dudes farming in hasla, so i tried to chat them up and see if they were recruiting. No responses from any of them. I figured they must be on mental autopilot from hasla grinding, so I ran into them middle of them, and spoke to the closest member by name and asked again. And was promptly ignored again.

I was later doing some arena matches and one of them (Pope, iirc) was on my team. I chatted him up and we were talking for a bit after the match. The moment I asked if traphouse had any recruiting policies, he promptly stopped responding to me and hasnt answered a whisper ever since.

Tl; dr: Im guessing they all intentionally ignored me for a reason unknown to me. Maybe theyll care about you enough to respond to you if youre geared or something?

BWTC: The crew we killed started making death threats to me and my friend when they spotted us on the villanelle docks after we ran off from the fishing boat. Forestcrow dudes, BWTC and like 2 other guilds all showed up in clippers and a loving galleon to swarm us (yes, all that for 2 ungeared scrubs on a clipper) after we killed another one of the people who were angrily chasing us into ynystere. i desummoned my boat as a harpoon was midair to catch us, and we made it on to land and sped away.

Tl; dr: do not join BWTC unless you dont mind FISHING PACTS and "please respect fishing". Also make sure you dont mind your guildmates being so mad about fishing that they will literally call in 4 guilds, a fleet of clippers and a galleon to try and kill 2 ungeared 50s on a clipper. (And still gently caress it up and let them escape)

Cyberventurer posted:

Malakesh was fidgeting, unsure of how the negotiations were about to pan out. "This isn't right," he told himself. He was a goon of the sea; the crisp, salty breeze. The blue waves undulating over the horizon. The boats of pubbies perpendicular with the surface of the water, making full revolutions at 3 times a second. That was his home.

He was a fisherman.

Not a diplomat. Not someone who parlayed with opponents on land. Sure, the 16x16 beachfront villa he was using as a base of operations was furnished well, and any bot worth its salt would drool at the chance to snatch up this amazing piece of real estate, but it didn't make him feel comfortable. Malakesh turned back toward the mirror to groom his hair and adjust the position of his admiral's hat. He wasn't really an admiral, of course, but Kimsemus wouldn't know that. All he had to do was negotiate a ceasefire. His superiors allowed him a token amount of the stolen supplies to be used as a bargaining chip, but what if it wasn't enough? What if Kimsemus demanded more, and he couldn't deliver? Maybe he was just being used as bait to lure Kimsemus out? He cursed the higher-ups for not telling him anything. Whenever he tried to press for more information, all he was told was "OPSEC". Every question, nothing but "OPSEC". Even asking for the definition of OPSEC got him nothing but "OPSEC" in reply. He was still busy trying to figure out what the acronym stood for when the door behind him swung open. Malakesh gulped hard and spun around; he was here. He looked much more...dashing than Malakesh expected.

Kimsemus, scourge of the seas, had entered the house. He turned, just for a moment, to spit out the tobacco in his mouth out into the grass before resuming his course into the main room. Toward Malakesh. And he could see it in Kimsemus's eyes; it wasn't stone he was after. Kimsemus looks him up and down, then grins.

"Yer level 16, aren't ya? I can smell it on ya," Kimsemus grumbled. Malakesh was taken by surprise by the comment. Did he really look the part? True, it was the hottest level, but did he detect a bit of interest in Kimsemus's voice? Wait, why was he thinking about that? He had to focus on the deal. On the stone. Stones. Kimsemus certainly had some big ones to come unarmed...Malakesh shook his head and looked back up to meet him in the eye.

"The council has heard your demands for the stone and is willing to negotiate-" but Malakesh couldn't continue. Kimsemus continued to stride through the room, toward Malakesh.

"I ain't no landlubber. It's not about the stone. But perhaps," Kimsemus purred, "ye could offer me something more."

So it's true. Malakesh blushed. Kimsemus was a goonfucker, just like him. And now that they were together...Malakesh spoke: "This is quite unprofessional. I'm flattered by your advances, but this-"

"Shhh," Kimsemus interrupted, leaning in close. Malakesh's back was against the wall now. Kimsemus gingerly took off Malakesh's admiral hat with one hand while he reached for the kraken tentacle mounted by the fireplace. "Nobody needs to know. It's not like this is happening on an American server."

Malakesh couldn't say no to that. And truth be told, he always wanted to be taken on a ride by Kimsemus's big red boat. They leaned closer, and let their feelings lead them from there.

ruffz posted:

I can't believe there's still a restriction on making west continent characters on Aranzeb. Anyone that's been wanting to join us in the guild still can't.


AA is turning out to be the MMO failure that finally gets me to go back to WoW for the first time since Burning Crusade was about a year old. I'm just waiting on the all clear that the servers have stabilized and I'll be buying Draenor. Saturday was the first day since launch that I didn't log in the entire day. I'm getting the "I don't give a fucks" with this game and I wish selling properties was easier because I'd just cash out now and have that gold if/when I return.

Digital Fingers posted:

Blazolie posted:

in non-duping news, i heard through the grapevine that fishing goons hate girl havers. takes focus away from all the fishing, i guess??

x: all the pubbies in wicked are always talking about their girlfriends
x: and the goons that joined got so butthurt because of that
x: they tried to shoot it down and then like 5 other wicked pubbies started talking about their girlfriends
x: and then one or two of the girlfriends started talking in comms to defend themselves
x: and now goons are segregated to their own channels, but that's not even surprising

Malakesh posted:

Yea... This is pretty dumb and a really lovely troll attempt. Most of the wicked goons intermingle with the non goons quite a bit(especially wicked fishers) and I would wager that over half of us have wives, fiancées(myself included), and girlfriends based on some of the conversations we've had. They(wicked pubbies) are all pretty chill people and easy to get along with. The quote about being segregated is hilarious. Name and shame the dumb poo poo who gave you that information.


Yea I think this was the case at the beginning but has changed quite a bit since then.

Malakesh posted:

No we've been over this already. That's kimsemus.

Eonwe posted:

so what really took it over the edge

the fact that kimsemus and I said that pedophilia was wrong and made fun of anyone who called it "trolling" or was fishing really just the bridge too far

ragnoxiii posted:

Nothing really took it too far. Guild had been ready to splinter since the FC deal, they just needed a good excuse. Kimsemus sticking out his neck for Tatersyum to chop was just the right opportunity.

Fauxtool posted:

I have been posting it in here, but this would be a general hacking thread. I have done it in tons of other games like MWO, TF2, WoW, FFXIV, Wildstar, War Thunder, World of Tanks, BF1-4. I know im not the only goon doing it and people are frequently PMing me about more info.

As soon as I get mod approval, i will start working on an OP.
MMOHMO seems most on topic, but imp zone is probably most appropriate since I know its going to be trolled and shitposted by lots of angry goons

Friendly Tumour posted:

you still banned from eve goon guild?

Friendly Tumour posted:

What? Why goonrathi? DBRB isn't in goonrathi is he?

Malakesh posted:

I like the part where Kimsemus says goons are socially well adjusted.

glug posted:

Which one is the goon who got caught up in all the pedo drama in one video game only to go back to another video game and join a guild named after a euphemism for rape, because once they're 18 it's totally different?

tatersyum posted:

trolling = you're a pedophile

Deutsch Nozzle posted:

this is it folks. this is first world white privilege. right here.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

relax dummy, you of all people should know by now that aint how you respond