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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

duTrieux. posted:

have you tried LG Smart TVs with webOS, op? they feature Bean Bird for easy setup and the Magic Remote for effortless navigation

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

PuTTY riot posted:

it's really smart if u think about it. most ppl won't try to disable it they'll just think it's time warner or something. lol

I have one of the tvs in question. the smartness for me really just means there's a netflix button on he remote but the app is so loving unbearably slow and clunky that everyone just uses the computer to do it except my mom with alZheimers and she uses the app and manages ok which is pretty surprising given the state of her brain.

overall I like it, good picture quality n stuff I guess. when I was looking at tvs I couldn't find decent ones that didn't have smart tv stuff on them so whatever

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
like I think it has hulu and YouTube and stuff but the ui for all of them is just unbelievably bad

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
paying for media is for suckers.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the internet was founded on the principles of easy, anonymous and hard-to-stop sharing of digital information and I wont stand for anyone disrespecting the hard work the early cyber pioneers put into it by advocacy of actually PAYING for movies and music.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

everything on TV is made for a different audice but me and that sucks!

*Doesnt pay any of those companies for content, or participate in ad impressions*

you know I had the exact same issues with media in the 80s as I do now and nobody was pirating movies then so this line of reasoning sucks poo poo, imho

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i would be loving overjoyed if the entire entertainment industry went bust because everyone decided they weren't going to pay for it anymore

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

they'll just start making media for people who will buy, watch ad impressions.

this has always been the case and will not magically stop being the case if everyone stopped pirating movies

if everyone stopped pirating media here is what would happen:

1) media companies make a bunch more money
2) that's it there is no (2)

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

fox slotted it on friday nights aka the death spot

it was no twin peaks, that's for sure

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
twin peaks is still the best thing to have been on tv

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

it's ok to creep on her 18 year old character because the actress was like 25

Shelly was hotter imo

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
pagancow I was watching ads on tv in the 80s and tv sucked and I'm not watching ads now and tv still sucks so all this free market bullshit you're saying is bullshit and I want you to stop saying it.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the idea that if we watch advertising then we will get shows we like is demonstrably false. stop saying it.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

Just watching a show/movie isn't enough to guarantee more episodes/movies.

no one here said it was

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

infernal machines posted:

neither is anything else consumers can do

so who cares. gently caress advertising

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

Dont worry, the market has spoken. in 5-10 years there will be no ad interuptions during shows and they will just be 10 minute product placement "shows"

which would have happened regardless of Adblock

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

qirex posted:

what's happened is that now that there's metrics that show that "new" advertising doesn't perform very well money is going back into "old" advertising [which probably performs identically poorly but since there's no way to prove it they'll be optimistic]

yep

I'd actually be surprised if traditional did anywhere nearly as well

the Nielsen lies are just so established in the industry that there's no stopping them.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
eh

marketing & advertising are usually the first things to be cut when budget runs low so I think a lot of people know that

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
it's not like ads don't work, they do, it's just that it all falls under "brand awareness" and "brand lift" and those are some really vague numbers so you really need truly mass market products to make advertising work for you

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Jonny 290 posted:

modern TV is terrible anyways and you assholes would do just loving fine with a hard drive full of looney toons and a Twin Peaks rip. go the f outside stop watching porn full of guys in imaginary animal skin coats

looks like someone's still grumpy after their potatobation!

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the entire advertising industry, which drives all media, is built on elaborate lies that everyone knows are lies but that no one can acknowledge because the lie makes it all work.

like as soon as someone that people listen to starts to grapple with the incredibly hosed up math of tv ratings, all the networks are hosed, every one of them.

it's like that thing back in the 80s where they started looking at actual sales to find out what the top 40 hits were instead of just asking record store owners for ther opinions were and omg it turns out rap and country are HUGE except this is about several orders of magnitude more money

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome


I like ghostery

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

so people with health conditions and substance abuse issues are now at the same mental level as children?

pagancow, why don't we allow cancer patients to take Laetril?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
its because it's a quack medicine that doesn't work that preys on people when they are at their weakest and will try anything to cure their sickeness and people were taking advantage of that weakness to make a buck and america said "no, that's gross, lets not allow people to do that."

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Elder Postsman posted:

no i don't believe for a second that america would do that

well I mean Americans back in the days when we still did good deeds

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Cnidaria posted:

you should block all adds out of principle alone

all other consequences don't matter

if a show relies on adds to be on tv then it is poo poo anyway

therefore all tv shows are poo poo

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
ugh never do a pharma ad

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

PuTTY riot posted:

still dont want to know what transvaginal mesh is thanks

gonna be brutally honest here: I kinda do

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Forums Terrorist posted:

pagancow is cremnob tier creepy

let's not get carried away

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
I just turn off the motion interpolation

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Blue Train posted:

A friend of mine has to work at Macy's 6pm to midnight on Thursday then go back in the morning for black Friday :/

no he doesn't. he doesn't have to do anything. he chooses to.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

It still comes on in a lot of 2013 Samsung

i'm gonna stop u right there

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

mishaq posted:

what i dont get with the ads on internet video streaming sites is why they are served from a different domain/server than the actual content that allows adblock to block them

because of the way the ads are served. CBS.com has mostly no idea what ads its serving and shuffling different ads on and off cbs.com would be a big pain in the butt and would slow down the incredibly high speed ad market.

no one cares about Adblock because (1) it's not that common and (2) no one wants to get into an arms race they can't win.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Last Chance posted:

a ton of sites just dont play videos properly if they detect adblock is in use. at least the chrome/safari versions anyway. so they are detecting and blocking the adblock so to speak.

lovely little backwater sites living off the pittance they get from whatever godawful network they're with, sure. those are mostly driven by petty self righteous site owners all bent out of shape over people stealing from them.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sagebrush posted:

i don't have a neilsen box so i can watch and pirate and block whatever the gently caress i want and it doesn't affect the media industry in the slightest.

that's not true for digital ads because depending on the agreement the site has with their network you're actually stealing up to a dime from them.

if you honestly feel some guilt over this, unadblock the site a click a few ads then re Adblock it and you should be square with that site for life

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
totally true for tv tho

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pram posted:

you mean richard 'lowtax' kyanka??

I can't even imagine how toxic SA is for brand safety

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

have fun not being the customer

dont cry online when "there's nothing worth watching"

this is stupid and objectively wrong and we've shown exactly why it is so

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Farecoal posted:

guys i think pagancow............................is trolling!!!

im sure that's what he'll tell you

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

pagancow posted:

rotor, your one of my favorite posters and all, but lets be honest here, popular shows that make money dont get canceled


just like home taping did not kill the music industry and just like vcrs and time shifting didn't kill the movie studios Adblock is not killing any kind of media industry so please stop imying that it is, and please stop implying that tv will somehow magically stop being garbage if we just watch enough ads

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