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PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

Number19 posted:

tv makers didn't think you've been seeing enough ads lately so now they're gonna show you some ads when you change the volume or turn the tv on



http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-ban-the-banner-ads-from-panasonic-smart-tvs/


if you plug your tv into the internet you're a huge idiot hth

lmao

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PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
June 11, 2012 7:34 AM PDT

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Nov 16, 2002
my tv isn't smart it's like a year before all that poo poo started becoming standard. but I have to use a PS3 for Netflix until I get my prime dingle

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Nov 16, 2002

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

lol if you use your TV or gaming console to browse the internet

is there Netflix in nZ?

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Nov 16, 2002

Beeftweeter posted:

65" panasonic vt60, one of the best tvs ever made (so far). owned

also you can turn those ads off op

it's ok because you can turn them off. lol. sounds like something a democrat would say

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
it's really smart if u think about it. most ppl won't try to disable it they'll just think it's time warner or something. lol

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Nov 16, 2002

Beeftweeter posted:

im not going to buy literally the best display you can get because it has something annoying you can turn off and never see again. lol. sounds like something a complete retard would say

no grandma you idiot the ads are coming from the TV itself don't you read cnet??

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
I want a dlp but I don't think they make them anymore and also I already have a tv

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Nov 16, 2002

qirex posted:

does hdmi-cec actually work between brands now?

lol

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Nov 16, 2002
it would be cool as heck if cec worked like its supposed to cause ur apple tv could plausibly control everything via siri


'siri, play the next episode of wilfred on netflix'

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Nov 16, 2002

qirex posted:

welp looks like I'm buying another sony then, probably this one because not having to juggle remotes is worth more to me than any other feature a TV can have

apple tv doesn't even have cec which is pretty lame imo

what do u have thats already sony?

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

this is why i wired mine then blocked the address in router

tv janitoring

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Nov 16, 2002

pagancow posted:

guys why do they only make shows for housewives and children who watch ads?

*adblocks everything*

*doesnt pay for shows they like*

Amazon has more nick jr content than nick jr. without detergent commercials

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
u can watch fukken Gullah Gullah island

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Nov 16, 2002

pagancow posted:

o no company whos business model is to lose money on things has a better service?

lol

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Nov 16, 2002
Netflix is good also and they don't have commercials. and they are trying to make money. lol. their kids programming is p bad tho after all the Viacom stuff left for Amazon.

Viacom can eat a dick too as can anyone else who gets into spats with cable/sat cos

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
it's cool paying $100/mo to watch CNN and recorded episodes of blues clues. that is a fair proposition and a business model that isn't going away soon.

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Nov 16, 2002
definitely not canceling in 2 weeks when fire sticks get here

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Nov 16, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

maybe advertisers should be better at not pissing off their viewers with their lovely ads featuring alarm clock sounds and police sirens and hoovering up 1/3 of the runtime of any block of programming


maybe marketing would be more effective if they spent that cash sending out free product to random/selected potential customers instead of bombarding our eyeballs and earballs with motion color garbage

also that thing where the actuall programming is quieter than the ads so you can hear it when you get it up to make a sandwich during the commercials

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Nov 16, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

my dad who produces tv advertising absolutely lost his poo poo when cable tv started airing ads

that was the thing i remember him screaming about a lot b/c it's supposed to be illegal or something

yeah i think there was a recent settlement

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
Q: Does the FCC currently regulate loud commercials?
A: Yes. The Commission adopted rules on December 13, 2011 that require commercials to have the same average volume as the programs they accompany. The rules became effective on December 13, 2012, one year after the date of their adoption. Broadcast television stations and pay TV providers were given until this date to be in full compliance.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/loud-commercials


its claled the CALM act


Specifically, the CALM Act directs the Commission to establish rules that require TV stations, cable operators, satellite TV providers or other multichannel video program distributors (MVPDs) to apply the Advanced Television Systems Committee's (ATSC) A/85 Recommended Practice ("ATSC A/85 RP") to commercial advertisements they transmit to viewers.


http://www.atsc.org/cms/index.php/component/content/article/195

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Nov 16, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

sounds to me like advertisers need to get a whole lot better at providing their product b/c they been coastin

advertising is a cool thing cause if it doesnt work nobody can prove it

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
must've just been a bad product i guess

apply directly to the forehead

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Nov 16, 2002

pagancow posted:

actually, if you were to sell a smart TV you would put together focus groups first and show them the product before you dumped a ton of money into it. Once you determined that consumers want said product you scale your marketing budget accordingly from what you found out in those focus tests.

the one with the ads on it you mean?

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Nov 16, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

wait when did this become possible without an hbo subscription

1/1/2015 iirc

and also sharing w/ ppl who do have hbo

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Nov 16, 2002

pagancow posted:

Price was discussed in an earlier meeting and they said "yes I'd be willing to buy a 50" TV with all this engineering you're going to put into it for 500 and nothing more"

and then the Ads came in to help make it a reality because, god damnit you wouldn't pay any more

then just sell me the same 50" 120hz tv you engineered 5 years ago, whats wrong with that one? why do we need new models every snigle year?

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
advertising is cool because its completely unavoidable and teaches little girls that the onyl things that matter are being cute and getting boys to like u and pink barbie sparkle rainbow magic

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Nov 16, 2002

rotor posted:

the idea that if we watch advertising then we will get shows we like is demonstrably false. stop saying it.

but piracy!

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Nov 16, 2002

qirex posted:

what's happened is that now that there's metrics that show that "new" advertising doesn't perform very well money is going back into "old" advertising [which probably performs identically poorly but since there's no way to prove it they'll be optimistic]

most national brands could turn 90% of their annual marketing spend into a price cut and do way better

my homeowners and auto insurance doesnt advertise and its a lot cheaper and better than state farm

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
yeah, coca cola should probably keep advertising. geico? maybe not

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Nov 16, 2002

Jonny 290 posted:

modern TV is terrible anyways and you assholes would do just loving fine with a hard drive full of looney toons and a Twin Peaks rip. go the f outside stop watching porn full of guys in imaginary animal skin coats

:eyepop:

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

how well do you think people would pay for a football broadcast without any commentary or advertising whatsoever

i watched a recording of an olympic water polo game w/ no broadcasters and holy poo poo it owned. u got to watch the pregame warmups and stuff and hear the natatorium announcer instead of some NBC idiot who doesn't know anything


dont get me started on oylmpic advertising and how hosed the olympics are

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
before nipplegate my dad would mute the tv and turn on the radio when he watched the cowboys games

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Nov 16, 2002
I have a structured settlement and I need cash now!

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Nov 16, 2002

Jimmy Carter posted:

Can we agree how weird it was that large advertisers resisted internet ads for so long despite their reach being precisely measured as opposed to TV which was the exact opposite?

Also have the cable companies gotten into the business of selling viewership data from peoples cable boxes yet?

yeah probably for the last decade or so

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Nov 16, 2002
still dont want to know what transvaginal mesh is thanks

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Nov 16, 2002

wyoak posted:

What's the best TV for me to buy on black friday or cyber monday or whenever

they make all of those tvs just for black friday and theyre worth about as much as what they sell them for, if not less

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

Perplx posted:

50" panasonic led 1080p for $199 earth dollars
http://blackfriday.bestbuy.com/?category=doorbusters

60 hz lol

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PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

qirex posted:

more than 60 hz double lol

all motion interpolation is poo poo

i thought u wanted 120hz cause 24fps and 30fps both divide into it evenly but everything above that is poo poo

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