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I still can't believe Israel's legal system somehow allows the prime minister to bulldoze someone's home as punishment for criminal action
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Pycckuu posted:Sharia Law is awful, and I am glad Israel is fighting on the front lines to defend Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way of Life. Did the IDF invade Saudi Arabia or what's the deal here
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Nov 18, 2014 23:30
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My Imaginary GF posted:Let’s say Hamas had the firepower of Israel and Israel had the firepower of Hamas. What do you think would happen to Israel were the balance of power reversed? This is moronic; you can't detach the character of each organization from the material and historical contexts from which they emerged. The answer is that if Hamas somehow had the upper hand, it would be an entirely different organization with an entirely different history and character.
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Nov 18, 2014 23:52
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It's been, what, four threads at this point and you dumb fuckers still haven't learned to ignore The Insect Court's attempts to de-rail it with accusations of anti-semitism?
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Nov 20, 2014 05:29
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team overhead smash posted:I don't see how. Responsibility falls on those committing the crimes in each case. Even if the actions of others affected the Palestinian militant's decision to attack civilians, the decision was still theirs. I'm ambivalent about this; when deciding whether parties do or don't share the blame in a criminal act, you have to look at each party's alternatives. In the case of West Bank settlers, Israel's alternative is clear and not terribly hard to implement: don't institute massive subsidies and government grants for moving into occupied territory (rather, disallow it). In the case of Gazan militants, the alternative of situating themselves away from civilians is logistically impossible. That said, I don't think it's moral or excusable to go ahead and murder Israeli civilians in the Occupied Territories; at most they can be driven away, citing their lack of a proper deed to the land from the legitimate authority governing the West Bank. If they fight back, then it's okay to use force.
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Nov 20, 2014 12:06
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A lot of people are saying that this is essentially meaningless, but if the provision for dropping Arabic as an official language remains, there are some pretty loving serious implications for the State's democratic character.
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Nov 24, 2014 17:41
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Avshalom posted:What I'm saying is there are a lot of legitimate reasons to criticise Israel, but there are also a lot of people who only bother to do it because it gives them free rein to express, publically and without hope of retaliation, that deep down inside they really loving hate Jews. They're not allowed to just say that we're all greedy devious back-stabbing money-grubbing inhuman lizard people, but now look how Israel is behaving! It's proving the stereotypes! It's not racism if it's true! It would be nice if you could actually quote these people and explain what makes you think that they're bigots instead of subtly implying, without demonstration, that criticism of Israeli state violence is just a sophistic cover for bigotry. Israel doesn't get "singled out" because people love lovely regimes like Iran's, it gets "singled out" because it's one of the few countries who managed to convince morons that its horrifying violence is actually legitimate and virtuous (America is another).
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Mar 5, 2015 13:33
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If you assume that any given Jew supports awful state violence and annexation of territory through conquest then you're a moron and also a very obnoxious person.
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Mar 6, 2015 00:10
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emanresu tnuocca posted:5. Revoking the ability of the supreme court to overturn Knesset and government legislation. Uuuh, so basically he wants to get rid of the idea of rights that are protected from parliamentary/democratic whims?
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Mar 9, 2015 17:00
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It's honestly amazing to me that not even one week passed after Netanyahu's election and he's already given two interviews to two different American television networks to beg for forgiveness for what he said during the campaign. He knows that Israel's current state depends uniquely on American support, and more or less shat his pants when the State Department reacted to his pledge to block a Palestinian state. You often hear people commenting that the US seems to be subservient to Israel, but that's a load of poo poo. All it takes is a meaningless, mealy-mouthed "we might re-consider our approach" to get big boy Bibi, pants soiled, running to the first big American network who'll give him a platform.
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Mar 20, 2015 18:53
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Venom Snake posted:Except what's being reported is that the U.S. government is tired of Lukid making GBS threads all over 60 years of foreign policy. Or do you think the Pentagon quietly released those document about Israel's nuclear weapons for no reason? It's hard for me to believe that the US has finally decided, after nearly 50 years, to give a poo poo about the rights of Palestinians. The administration knows exactly what's happening on the ground in Palestine, and the idea that anyone at the State Department believed that the Israeli government had any plans to give the land they stole back until they were shocked and blindsided by Netanyahu's election comments is just fantasy. Maybe I'm just cynical, but my speculation is that the current rhetoric from the Obama administration is meant to sap the heat out of a potential international reaction to Netanyahu's election comments, which is much more serious. The criminal wants to stay in charge of the investigation into his own activity, and when the heat comes around he simply pretends to be trying harder.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:40
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The Insect Court posted:The thread has reached the point where the "facts" introduced by the usual suspects spiral downwards until they're just linking to sites full of theories about the USS Liberty and the Zionist's secret 'Samson Option' plan to annihilate the world. Back in 2008: quote:Carter was back in Jerusalem this week to brief Israeli leaders on his talks with [Hamas political leader Khaled] Meshal regarding a proposed truce between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip as well as an exchange of prisoners between them. Again in 2013: quote:Hamas’s political chief Khaled Mashaal has apparently expressed his support for a two-state solution to end the Israeli-Arab conflict, the Saudi Al-Sharq newspaper reported on Wednesday. You can argue that there have been contradictory statements, that they changed their position (although they offered a 10-year truce again in 2014) or that Jimmy Carter was lying (lol), but "completely and totally false" is a load of poo poo, and so are you. Seriously though, why do you still post here? You have never ever contributed anything of worth. Your post can be directly contradicted by five minutes of googling for English-language Israeli sources, and when you're not demonstrating your belief in a reality that is the opposite of this one, you're smearing posters with innuendo about anti-semitism. Can you just gently caress off?
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Mar 28, 2015 23:09
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Yeah let's go ahead and compare a colonial conquest with an intra-state struggle for rights, as a total moron I see no discrepancy that would sink the comparison.
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Mar 30, 2015 22:08
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Nckdictator posted:http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=350154 The easiest way to destroy public support for the Palestinians' cause is to tie all Jews worldwide with Israeli state violence. They're definitely morons, and probably anti-semitic.
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Apr 7, 2015 06:39
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Why would Israel bother to pay for any parcel of land when it can just send in a brigade to "confiscate" it?
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Apr 8, 2015 08:47
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That's cool and all but let's swing back to the refugees who got blown up as they took shelter in UN refuges some 50 years later.
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Apr 29, 2015 02:32
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MIGF, does UNRWA have any sort of combat capacity? If not, why doesn't it?
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Apr 29, 2015 02:40
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My Imaginary GF posted:1. Did the UN operations in the region have a combat capacity at a previous point? Why did you start posting at this point if you had no intention of talking about 2014?
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Apr 29, 2015 03:00
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Turns out the whole story about dropping pamphlets to warn civilians of an attack is useful as more than just propaganda -- you can make the nice argument that anyone who didn't leave after they were dropped is obviously an enemy combatant who can be shot on sight, regardless of the circumstances.
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