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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Nutsngum posted:

Seconding 2 being my favourite. I just loved the art style just a bit more over 3s digitized graphics. Plus the races felt a bit more balanced then 3 where towns like Inferno were just simply not as good as others.

Yea. I loved Necropolis in 2 because you would end with thousands of skeletons.


Pick posted:

There was an HD remake?! That was like my favorite game ever!! (Except Dragon Age 2)

Did they ever answer why angels have wings coming out of their buttcheeks?

Yea, you should be able to get it on steam.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I remember a lot of dancing in kids shows back then. I have vivid memories of some kids sketch show that would often end sketches with one kid breaking out into a dance routine rather than having a punchline.

I think it may have been the one with Goodburger sketches.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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ryonguy posted:

Wow that's a lot of wet t-shirts to not be marked :nws:

But brings back memories of BCT. I had no idea somebody was making eurodance remixes of cadences.

Yea, way more nipples than I remember.

That reminds, me, late night movies on tv. You'd stay up late friday or saturday nights, hoping you wouldn't walk your parents and turn on tv hoping it would be showing some T&A movie. Sometimes you'd strike out, sometimes you'd hit the jackpot, and sometimes you'd see some really good movie you'd never watch intentionally. I saw stuff like Brazil, Naked Lunch, Blue Velvet and others that way.

Eastern Canadians, there was always the Blue Nuit on the French Channel. Who knew there was so many Emanuele movies?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Wilford Cutlery posted:

Good ol' Bleu Nuit. It amuses me that Wikipedia has a list of BN movies.

The funny thing is TQS is still around. I live in Toronto now so we don't get it, so I wonder if they still have it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

*raises hand* uh...I knew. But then, I'm a connoisseur of crap film. If they spell it "Emmanuelle" in the title, it's not an "official" sequel. But there's probably more unofficial ones out there than legit.

Yea, there was the origonal series, then the so called Black Emmanuel (who I think was actually part Malaysian) , and then there was the 3rd series which was more like an anthology rather than a movie, with a space framing device.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

Thanks to Skinemax, I have a rather robust knowledge of crappy high brow 90s softcore films like the Wild Orchid series. (which is why I was disappointed with the horror film American Mary that everyone loves, they literally took a Mad Libs of one of those type films and replaced every instance of the main character "stripping" or "prostitution" with "back alley cosmetic surgery". Literally no other factors are changed.)

Also yeah, I live outside Detroit, so I get a CBC affiliate on normal broadcast (maybe the same one? Windsor?) and I learned by experience that they can show pretty much whatever they want after like, 11pm. Queue stumbling across a Quebecois film about a prostitute including scenes of her showing off her strap-on. :eyepop:

There was a point where Softcore movies tried to be, you know movies, but with way more butts and boobs (and sometimes a little more). Eventually they just turned into a series of softcore scenes that were framed by a bunch of women sitting around talking about sexy things they either done or heard about. The funny thing is you can tell that the clips were from other films because the quality of the video and the costumes/hair.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Added NWS tags to the Captain Jack video. Whoops!

Don't worry. Somehow music videos often get over looked with stuff like that. Now it seems like every video from Europe is nothing but tits or more.

Man, I miss music video channels. Even if they weren't playing stuff you liked, it was still interesting. Maybe Canada's MuchMusic (later, Much) was better, because it was done very informal. The VJs would sit in the studio where you can see people working at consoles and stuff behind them and yak about the videos just off the cuff. They'd give us neat factoids and jokes, gossip and goings on. When I went to the states, MTV felt so manufactured and slick. Also, the rotation on MTV was horrible. I remember seeing March of the Pigs 3 times in an hour, each time it was said to be a "world premier".

The best thing about Much is when they had a guest on in the summer they'd have the studio windows open and you could watch from the sidewalk. That was super cool. Total Request Live straight up stole the format.

It's amazing how fast the video channels died though. It's funny to think that radio has totally survived while video has not, so the Buggles were wrong. Though i think the idea of the radio star of the 70s would not work now, because some average looking guy who was a talented musician could not really get ahead like back then.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

I don't think that's why music television has died, I think the fact that youtube is still free has MUCH more to do with it.

Thing is, a lot of videos are made just to advertise stuff. Drake pulls out his sweet new iPhone because Apple paid for it. But yea, you can just go watch Hotline Bling or Marry Me Archie on youtube when ever you want and not have to wait for it come around in rotation again. Though that has the advantage of introducing people to new stuff. It's a paradox now, you have access to more music than ever before, but you actually have to put effort into finding it.


1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Total speculation, but I think part of the reason is that it's much easier to put the radio on in the background and do other stuff, especially in the car. You can't really do that in the same way with a music video channel on TV, hence why they've more or less died out.

That's very true. I know I as a teenager used to just turn on muchmusic and let it run while I was doing homework and stuff, but yea, in a car, or out walking, you're better off with a radio. I'm completely in love with google play.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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That's 90s as gently caress; talking about what PC games we're playing and our one mac owning friend saying "Marathon is better than any of those".

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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That reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWu3JqLMImY

That wonderful 90s dance track that will full of new age love everyone bullshit. Also featured oiled up Jason Statham as a backup dancer.

You forget how many 90s dance tracks have rap verses.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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This was recomended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEXGgdqMz8

if the video was just the Amazon member of the band, it would be the best video ever.

https://youtu.be/xSSgmWXjwEI?list=PLVf3PXRSPQRarUyt_B_X7O1fm9mGpeqn4
In the 90s, I'd have Dune as one of my interest on early social media things, and people would constantly talk to me about this song. I'd answer "uh I'm talking about the books" and they were confused.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

It really did. Like, there were a couple of odd early acts like Alice in Chains or whoever that slid in under the metal banner, but it was seemingly like overnight that suddenly Nirvana was on the scene and every white kid's favorite band.

Them and Soundgarden I remember being out just before Nirvana broke. But yea, it was a weird time because it was a huge sea change that came almost over night.

Wheat Loaf posted:

I think it's because "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was picked up by MTV and became the number-one video, and it just snowballed from there.

It's interesting because I've read these interviews that guys like Joe Elliott and Nikki Sixx did circa 1989/1990 and they're all saying hair metal is on the way out and something new is on the verge of replacing it as the biggest mainstream rock genre, but they seemed to think it would be Metallica and Anthrax breaking through and becoming mainstream stars.

For a while, just before Nirvana showed up and Metallica were number one with the Black Album, it probably looked like they were right, too.

That reminds me how in the late 90s it looked like the next big thing was going to be techno/edm/electronic/whatever you want to call it, Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, Crystal Method, Prodigy, Moby, and others all where huge hits, dominating the charts. But it lasted less than a year, because then Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears came out and bam, it was Boy Bands and poptarts suddenly.

I guess the Rap Metal was an reaction against that.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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There was a book I read about top albums of the 90s, and it talks about how as the 80s ended and the 90s started, Rap and Hip Hop were looking like they'd be a musical genre that entered the mainstream with most of its artistic integrity intact, and then Vanilla Ice and Mc Hammer happened.

It's probably over estimating the popularity of rap and hip hop that didn't fall in the Party Rap, but I think its mostly right.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Every one is going to have a different memory of musics evolution until a decade or so ago, because it would be limited to what was on the local radio, what was on MTV/Muchmusic/what ever video tv programs were available, and what music was preformed locally. Growing up, there was only a handful of local stations, and they were either oldies, classic rock, easy listening and one pop station that played top 40 hits. I remember distinctly the DJ on the classic rock station saying he'd never play Nirvana because rock will never be better than Rush, Zep or G N R.

It is scary how many albums Garth Brooks sold. All those New Country guys sold a scary number of albums.

This is a Kids in the hall Sketch, but these kinds of guys I remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF2X1o0FGA0

At least 3 guys I know had dads exactly like this. Long hair, those hip glasses, always was trying to be down with the kids. "hey guys if you want, i got some porn you can watch" Uh no thanks Mr Johnson, that's fine, we're just gonna play Street Fighter.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

That happens a lot, actually. Sometimes you'll only have one or two people in a band that know how to actually write music. Apparently when Public Enemy started getting big some record executives told them to "get rid of the guy with the stupid clock" only to find out that Flavor Flav wrote basically all of the music. The guy seriously plays like 12 instruments. There's actually a ton of stuff a band needs to do other than "write music" so you'll often have people wearing multiple hats.

Yea. Like Gwen Steffani's older brother wrote pretty much all the songs on Tragic Kingdom so he is a major part of why the album was such a huge hit. While he was doing it, he was working as an animator on the Simpsons.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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The American Dream posted:

nitrofans.tumblr.com

It's nothing but crowd shots. People of Walmart ain't got poo poo.

Oh god, the kids! Though i didn't see any rat tails. Were those more 90s or 80s? I associate them with white trash kids from the early 90s.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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We were listening to a 90s pop station on Google Play at work the other day and this song came on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU-hmNjCtvQ

I had completely forgotten about this. This is the perfect example of the 80s and the 90s crashing. The band looks like they were supposed to be a hair metal band but then the producers decided to try to make them into some kind of boy band

It reminds me of color me badd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO6BtpIzIiM

I still find it odd that synchronized dancing is still front and center for pop groups these days. Though I find it funny that the basic premise of the video for I Wanna Sex You Up is also the same for Rammstien's Pussy.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Plan Z posted:

The Bubsy pilot may be one of the worst things I've ever watched in my lifetime, and it's '90s as poo poo. People think I exaggerate when I say it is literally unwatchable. They think since they've seen the worst calamities online and in real life, but nobody I've linked it to has been able to watch it in one sitting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNdbdSCuC4

I managed to get though about a minute. I just wanted to know if i could do that. Beyond the obvious try hard coolness (which is basically what Bubsy was all about), its just really obnoxious. Also, Is that Scott Grimes doing the voice? Bubsy Sounds a hell of a lot like Steve Smith.

That Battletoads thing was weird as poo poo.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Plan Z posted:

It was Rob Paulsen believe it or not. I always start criticizing it, but there's always just so much to criticize. The big problem is that the animation and voice acting are never on the same intensity plane.

It's weird, someone really powerful loved Bubsy and pushed him super hard in the mid 90s. I think its possibly because he was the result of a ton of money spent on focus groups trying to come up with the most perfect mascot that kids would love, as he was trying to compete the Mario and Sonic. The execs that threw money at it probably kept thinking if they just get enough Bubsy out there, he'd take off.

The 90s was chock full of video game mascots just trying to get a sweet piece of that console wars money.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Wheat Loaf posted:

It was all Sonic. Sonic was the one that had all this runaway success by being "a dude with a 'tude" in contrast to boring old Mario. It's pretty interesting to read about how Sonic was the product of intense focus group analyses to create this gestalt of everything that was "cool" in 1992 or so, which resulted in Sonic's creation being partly influenced by Bill Clinton.

Flesh coloured arms were all the rage in '92.

Instant Sunrise posted:

Console Wars by Blake Harris talks about this (and I assume that's where you're getting that from), as well as the back and forth design process between Sega of America and Sega of Japan. SOJ's concepts for Sonic had him with a motorcycle and having a human girlfriend.

Ah, so now I know where that came from.

But yea, sonic had 3 decent games, the rest has been absolute crap. I will never, ever understand the obsession some people have with Sonic, even beyond mentally ill people like Chris-Chan.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Lester the Unlikely was more fun than Busby.

At least once you got past the first part Lester actually behaved like a human being.

There's something 90s as gently caress, rending games blind based on the box art at blockbuster/local store. For every Secret of Mana or Earthworm Jim, you could end up with a Shaq Fu or Bebe's Kids.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Travis343 posted:

Your post illustrates this pretty well, if a SNES game was an original IP it was much more likely to be good than if it was based on an existing property (a movie, tv series, or Shaq), and that chance goes up again if the game is a SNES exclusive (Secret of Mana was better than Earthworm Jim)

True we know that now, but back then licensed games had an attraction that original IPs wouldn't. Everyone knows who Batman is, but who knows what Secret of Mana is unless someone told you about it?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

That was also before the internet really came into full swing. Word got around that a game was garbage pretty slowly so you could plan on a certain number of guaranteed sales. So long as you didn't make a game that was as completely atrocious as, say, E.T. on Atari you could expect not much word of mouth tanking sales.

Now that the internet exists word gets around about a game being very good or very bad pretty quickly. Same for movies or well...anything, really. Then you could make a neat enough early game for the magazines to say "yeah this is OK," make a few ads and nice screenshots, and sell enough copies to make a profit. All you really had to do was make sure the game was forgettable.

Now, though, the internet will absolutely not forget and reviews are a Google search away.

Yep, and that is killing presales now. EB/Gamestop has built their entire profit structure on getting presales because its either a guaranteed sale or in the case someone doens't pick it up, its still money in their pockets. Things like CoD, Battlefield, Batman and Assassins Creed games were all solid sellers and got lots and lots of pre orders, but with recent installments being unplayable, way to short, or all around super lovely, no one wants to risk pre ordering now. Though I remember you pretty much had to pre order games in the Playstation/n64 era, because stores would only carry enough to support their pre orders, even for big stuff. I literally had to wait weeks to get Final Fantasy 7 because of that. Oh big box stores would have tons, but if you lived somewhere where there wasn't one, hah gently caress you.

And magazines at the time didn't help either. I believed if a game had a cover story in nintendo power, it had to be good! I think thats why I dumped nintendo and want nothing to do with them, i spend actual money on Fester Quest. The only games I buy day 1 these days are GTA, Fallout, and Civ games. though Bioware won me back with having Inquisition being really good.

I big part of my teenage years was watching electric circus on much music. For many reasons, not just the sight of lots of hot women in sexy clothes. Hey there was no internet at that time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3PWT53_hdQ

Seriously, there was really no place you could hear/see electronic music in any forum for someone who wasn't old enough to go to clubs or what not.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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whiteyfats posted:

Gamepro and EGM for me.

I legitimately enjoyed the GamePro comics that came with each issue.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Grey Fox posted:

That makes me think about how excited I was for new Nintendo Power issues when the Mario and Zelda comics were in them.

Yea, those were really quite good. The Nester comics were really hit and miss though.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Masonic Youth posted:



Here's a 1998-ish picture of the band Slipknot out of their usual costumes.

Nathan Explosion there looks like a lot of fun.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Mariana Horchata posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShIxN7vbblA

Elbows off the table! Take small bites! hmhmhmhmhm!

You know, my family never had the no elbows on the table thing, and I was extremely confused when I went to Camp when that got you punished for doing it.

Sega ads are basically a mash up of all the most 90s possible stuff you can imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEHWHgbU5Jw

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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DrBouvenstein posted:

Well, Sega does what Ninten-don't!

The dude dancing is like the most 90s thing.

And I figure elbows on the table is one of those manners rules that was cooked up in some stuffy and humorless manners guide.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

I want to say the Rugrats Movie did that in theaters.

And I also want to say they used the same name for it John Waters did for the gimmick in Polyester, and got sued.

I don't think he actually sued for Oderama, because I've seen Waters lament they failed to renew the copyright.


insufficient guns posted:

Friday nights watching This Hour Has 22 Minutes and Royal Canadian Air Farce and thinking I was cool for pretending to understand all the jokes.

Then asking my parents WHY DOES RITA MACNEIL LOOK LIKE THAT

I remember a classmate repeating a joke about Rita McNeil and the teacher freaking out about it because making fun of someones weight was not appropriate. Though the joke I think was about boring singing. Weird thing about 22 minutes is that it was very East Coast humor, and I was always surprised that it read outside of it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Borrowing a game from a friend and they not lending you the manual or thing that has the copy protect on it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I used to work for a company that the owner started out selling bootleg and legit Simpsons t-shirts on the beach.

Playing PC games from floppies then getting a CDrom and hearing everyone in Monkey Island TALK. HOLY poo poo! Hell, even getting a sound card for the first time was a huge thing. I played through all of X-com 1 and TIE Fighter without any sound before being gifted a second hand adlib card.

Though of course, messing with IRQs.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Clitch posted:

Dude. gently caress IRQs.

Lord help you if you hosed up moving the little dohickee around.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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moller posted:

I had a roommate who was too lazy to hook up the front panel leads from his motherboard to his case so he bridged the atx power leads with a jumper. Eventually he lost the jumper and we just used a car key to bridge the pins and turn on the computer.

I know someone who's dad fixed their computer by putting a penny in the slot for the battery. He dad is an electrical engineer and was "hey it works".

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Star Man posted:

If it's anything like Daria's DVD set was, it's stuck in licensure hell.

I got them and it's so weird missing the music, Mission Hill suffers from the same problem.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

Simpsons-mania was a weird thing. I remember an old Inside Edition piece where they were trying to get an interview with Bart, acting like they were real people and not cartoons...yet also talking to the voice actors. It culminated in the reporter getting knocked over by Bart on his skateboard while we don't actually see him. Still not as awkward as the Oprah home interview thingie they did.

The commentaries mention that early on in the shows life, Fox was trying to maintain some mystery to the cast, like they weren't permitted to appear as the characters in interviews and if they did the voice they could not be shown. It was weird.

The comic store i work PT at has been clearing out the basement, and they found a box that's been sitting downstairs since at least 97. Inside were a bunch of shits that were so 90s; a Death Shirt, 2 Sandman shirts, a 90s Sabertooth shirt, Strangers in Paradise, and the best, an Legend of the Overfriend shirt. Looking on Ebay, the Overfeind sold for $75 worn, and this is in the package.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

Those Death and Sandman ones probably could sell for a good price too, knowing how fanatical Gaimanites are. (I used to be one)

Yea. It reminds me of a friend who in the 90s wore the same shirts plus a Downward Spiral and a Ministry Nwo shirt all the time.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Jesus christ what's wrong with his teeth? It doesn't look like he has grills or something, it looks like the edges are metal.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Oh geeze, a guy I knew, his dad bought one of those ones that saved directly to a 3.5" floppy. It was pretty convenient that you could just pop out the disk and stick it in your computer, but it only held like a dozen pictures.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Star Man posted:

Was it the Sony Mavica? That was the one my parents had too.

Probably, I haven't seen it since about 1996, but that was the most popular model.

It's amazing to think about just how many cd compilations existed in the 90s. There were how many jock jams, this is what I call music, NOW!, Much dance etc cds released constantly? I was at a record store saturday because it was record store day, and I was looking at the dollar cd bins and they were just full of these.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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RenegadeStyle1 posted:

Yeah I feel like between Nirvana and Nsync/Britney Spears that pop was just basically replaced with compilation albums.

Late 90s were really an era of one hit wonders. This continued until itunes took off, becuase back then you had to buy the whole album for that one hit song, and the record companies could rely on that. There really wasn't a way to hear a whole album without knowing someone who had one, and I don't remember listening stations being very common in record stores at the time. You had to rely on word of mouth, what you heard on tv or read in magazines. That's a lot of effort to figure out if you want to spend the 20bux for the whole cd because you liked that one song. You really liked Lucas With the Lid Off, but is the rest of the album as catchy?

Though the compilations i mentioned helped with that, becuase you know you could get a cd at some point that would have everything on it. Obviously if you had a decent enough network of friends, you could probably borrow it from someone and record it onto a tape if you had a stereo that could do that, or at least knew someone who did.

Though if you or someone you knew had a cd burner and the knowlage, you could make your own cds.

Then itunes comes along and you can pay a buck to get music super easy, so you could just buy the one hit song on the radio and not bother buying the whole cd.

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