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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Oh boy, here we go again.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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What happened in Bolívia would have happened in Brazil with the exact same playbook if PT had won against Bolsonaro.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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punk rebel ecks posted:

I remember speaking to a Latin American about this and they said that Britain treated their North American nations as "settlements" while Spain and Portugal treated their South American nations like "colonies".

That is what we are taught at school, so it is the general consensus.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Thlom posted:

It might be legal in the US, but I can't see how it can be legal under either international or maritime law for a foreign nation state to seize ships flying under another nations flag, with cargo owned by a third nation state, outside of the first nations jurisdiction. And then bring the ships home and even sell the cargo. Sounds like piracy to me. Why is this poo poo just accepted by the international community?

Because it is a first world country doing it to a third world country and the international institutions exist to protect the interests of the former.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Josef bugman posted:

This is, for some reason, deeply funny. Just showing up like "ahhh gently caress" after the port has been built and suddenly realising.

What if China then decides to invade Chile to give Bolívia a port which they will then take for themselves.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Josef bugman posted:

Tom Clancy? What are you doing possessing an innocent Something Awful goon!

The book protagonist is Tacticool Pinochet, special forces, an Yankee with Chilean (white) parents, who must return to the land of his ancestors to save them from the barbarian communists in the new Pacific war.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Meanwhile Republicans go isolationist when Democrats are in charge. So really the solution to US foreign policy (and everything else in that country) is to elect a third party.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Redczar posted:

He has COVID at the moment btw, which goes to show how dangerous it can be. Even when someone is completely isolated they can get it

Pin.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Hot drat, congrats, Chile!

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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He's a good writer despite the lib takes.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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The /brasil subreddit is pretty progressive in general, but also we probably have one the world's most reactionary rightwing movements. That said, there is is a spin-off reactionary subreddit that has a much smaller population.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Argentineans are Spaniards who think they are British while behaving like Italians.

I think I saw that one for the first time in these forums.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Yeah, Lula's previous mandate was a sovereign Brazil while Bolsonaro (or whatever lib they drag out) will just go with whatever the US says, no matter who's in charge.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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There won't be a coup, but there will likely be political violence between rival marches in some capitals (as well as anti-government protesters and the police). Country will continue its decay.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Elman posted:

Don't get me started on those degenerates that cook them without any onions.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Dias posted:

more like mario vargas llora lmbo

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Greenwald's husband is switching parties from PSOL (leftist party) to PDT (Libs under the last great white hope Ciro Gomes).

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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joepinetree posted:

David's calculus is pretty easy to understand when you know how congressional elections work in Brazil.

When you put it that way it makes perfect sense, appreciate the effort post.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Cup Runneth Over posted:

If you're in Latin America you can either be in bed with Russia or with the US. Personally, I would pick Russia, current events notwithstanding.

Generally you want to align with the great power that's geographically far from you and doesn't have a history of loving over your country. Russia is not a great power and their failed invasion of Ukraine dispells all illusions that it is one.

ZearothK
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Ras Het posted:

Of course, but that's sort of the point - why do a lot of leftists draw all these hedges and brackets and ifs and buts around Russian imperialism, when nothing is actually at stake for them? I know why politicians do it, but why do anonymous internet posters engage in this sort of diplomatic whitewashing? Even if we take a purely pragmatic global view and forget about the Ukrainians specifically, it's Russia who have created the food and energy price spike by starting a war. Or, from an anti-war socialist point of view, it's Russia who have provoked a renewed militarisation in Europe and a new wave of NATO expansion. It's not even very sound realpolitik to think that could've been avoided

Because when they mean anti-imperialism they do mean anti-US/Canada/European Imperialism. This is part a historical result of left movements in the West being anti-establishment for decades and decrying the abuses of their own countries, so they're easy marks for offering the benefit of doubt to the enemies of the establishment they have rallied against for a long time.

In Latin America there's that, added to the fact that it is a region that has historically suffered from US/EU influence and where governments and people can't trust those to be good faith partners. A lot of sovereign states have sought partnership with countries opposed or unaligned to the West in order to nurture some economic/political independence and so they simply have closer ties to Russia that they are not eager to sacrifice in what would be a symbolic gesture. In terms of the activist Left in LatAm, they are likewise easy marks to offer the benefit of doubt to enemies of the West for those same historical reasons and also some class warfare, as a lot of upper class people in the region identify as Europeans or North Americans rather than their own countries, so giving the finger to the geopolitical projects of the EU and US is mostly giving the finger to the ruling class of their own country.

It is a very rude summary, I know. For what's worth, I personally think Putin should be hanged in the Hague.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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fnox posted:

There was a debate between Lula and Bolsonaro last night, for example. Did that even receive a mention in this thread?

The debate was pretty bad. Most notable thing was a Nazi peace criminal cosplaying as a priest spreading fascist propaganda.

We are all pretty tired here, hoping Lula gets a first round win.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Elias_Maluco posted:

As far as I know, portuguese, spanish, italian, romanian and french are all considered latin languages.

edit: so I guess if Italy or Romania ever had colonies here, they would be part of latin america too

Also Latin rites, since they were majorly settled by Catholic states.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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I also imagine that the US can't get a coalition going is less because people think Haiti should be sovereign and more that COVID and Ukraine have put too much pressure on the usual US allies for them to want to commit troops and political capital to invade another country.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Mr. Nemo posted:

Yes, if anything Milei is bucking the most recent latinamerican trend.

Of course a couple of years ago the trend WAS right wing stuff in latam, brasil, bolivia, chile and Argentina kind of had that going for a while.

Now the pendulum is swinging the other way. It will all happen again.

Yeah, the ultimate uptake is that the average voter does the pretty rational consideration of "If things are good, re-elect; if things are bad, vote for the main opposition" and things are often bad in Latin America. The fact that looms keep getting elected is because our political institutions usually reject anyone with actual designs towards governance.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Elias_Maluco posted:

Yeah, and maybe it will be his crusade against abortion

It will be quite funny if the super crazy anarcho-capitalist guy gets into power and becomes just a bland good old fashioned neoliberal in the economy while being a radical reactionary on social issues

TBF that's pretty much the dream, because when his opposition gets elected (and they will be, because things will be poo poo), it will have to spend precious political capital rolling back his reactionary non-sense instead of touching the economy in ways that could disrupt the crony capitalists behind the government.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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Semantics aside, I don't think anyone will be surprised at an US intervention if Venezuela annexes part of Guyana.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

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VitalSigns posted:

I never got why embassies have complete immunity from arrests. With how turbo-corrupt ambassadors are, really feels like it should be the opposite, arrest 'em as soon as they arrive.

Look, if even Attila and Genghis Khan respected diplomats despite them being super criminal spies who sometimes tried to have them assassinated by their own generals, I am sure contemporary states can be civilised enough about it.

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