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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:If we refuse to punish anyone, then everyone at CIA/military/wherever will just happily do whatever the gently caress they want to whoever they want, because they know we'll just smile and sweep it all under the rug and promise to do better next time. Which is why the whistleblower is going to be the only person experiencing any legal consequences from this fiasco. "Holding the policy accountable" being the best we can do is absolute horseshit. The policy and the people responsible should be held accountable. If the people responsible won't face consequences and they know it, what the hell is the incentive for this poo poo to stop?
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IAMNOTADOCTOR posted:Proctoclysis is incredibly rare in medical practice as far as I am aware. It's used in some developing countries if IV is unavailable and/or malnutrition is not treatable in any other way. Proctoclysis is sometimes used on severe burn patients where IV fluid replacement is less feasible ( go find a vein between al those burns). http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...tm_term=nprnews quote:Rectal Infusion: The report says some detainees were subjected to rectal rehydration "without evidence of medical necessity, and that others were threatened with it." It adds that at least one of the suspects was rectally hydrated for "partially refusing fluids." The report says that CIA medical officers discussed the method's use as a means of behavior control. One medical officer noted: "[W]hile IV infusion is safe and effective,we were impressed with the ancillary effectiveness of rectal infucion on ending water refusal in a similar case."
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Rep. Peter King: Senate Report Not Torture, Just People Having “To Stand In Awkward Positions”quote:Rep. Peter King says the 525-page Senate report on the CIA’s interrogation and detention techniques does not detail torture, but instead just procedures which create what King described as “tremendous discomfort.” I don't even know where to loving start with this, but anyone still blowing this poo poo off as "not torture" should have to demonstrate that they can withstand everything the CIA inflicted on people without breaking a sweat. I'd love to see how that works out.
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Dec 10, 2014 22:53
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joeburz posted:If it's the segment I was listening to, the guy was such a hack that he tried to say that there wasn't anything even going on past 2004, even though that's explicitly false based on the CIA documentation for years afterwards in the report. On top of Peter King claiming that nobody was permanently harmed under torture, either these people didn't bother reading even a summary of the summary or they figure they can just flat-out lie and "win the news cycle" among people who want to believe them.
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Dec 11, 2014 03:31
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Chamale posted:When did the transition happen for so many people to start thinking like that? I vaguely remember a time when torture was something bad people did. Obviously that attitude changed somewhere between 9/11 and the end of the Bush Administration, but when the first reports of torture came out were people outraged about them? I guess it was split between the people who said "support the President no matter what" and the other 50% of the country.   Approval of torture has been shockingly high ever since 9/11 but it crossed into a majority right between the Bush and Obama administrations for some reason. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Fox news was part of it and Team Republican Is My Team Right Or Wrong is part of it and let's sock it to the browns is the rest.  Apparently most Republicans (and way too many Democrats) are perfectly fine with torture methods that don't involve assplay. It's scary how practically every issue nowadays, up to and including crimes against humanity, are sharply divided along party lines.
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