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evilweasel posted:It should also be noted that the CIA is currently, right now lying about facts the report covers: it is attempting to claim that torture was important in finding Bin Laden while the report specifically shows that is a lie. Here's the site they put up to counter the report http://ciasavedlives.com/
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Jagchosis posted:france does this to like, every president they have. And Italy, kind of.
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pathetic little tramp posted:I was listening to Catholic radio this morning because I figure Catholics are against torture, so this will be reasonable right? According to the report, literally ever piece of useful intelligence, since nothing that came from torture was usable. Even the information leading to bin Ladin's courier came before the CIA got to torture the person that provided it.
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Badger of Basra posted:Accidentally posted this in the USpol thread. Naw, it's running under the logic that to accept a pardon, you have to admit you committed a crime. And that acknowledging that torture is illegal will stop it. Because we apparently didn't know that.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The flaw in this logic is that 1) none of those involved are willing to admit they committed a crime, and 2) a pardon eliminates the public shaming aspect of this, which is essentially the only negative consequence any of the perpetrators have faced. Yeah, it's a really bad idea for many reasons.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This was all over the internet this morning Please respond with this Ward Sutton cartoon  Bel Shazar posted:If they ask the hard questions nobody will come back to talk to them. People say that, but if you have a large enough audience, I bet most will be willing to give it a go anyways.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Yeah. The Intel thing is just a thin excuse to be an awful sociopath. People, in general, can barely restrain themselved from hateful behavior. It's getting to the point where A Serbian Film* will be remade by a major hollywood studio and people will be fine with it. * nsfw and nms duz fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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CommieGIR posted:Good piece on NPR about media changing people's views of torture: I hope now, more than ever, that Amnesty International is still writing letters to companies depicting torture in media as something other than a negative. (Even though it doesn't seem like anyone cares)
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Cerebral Bore posted:Well, when has the fact that they're not allowed to participate in domestic law enforcement operations ever stopped the CIA before? Or obeying any laws, really.
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Miltank posted:So none of the post-911 security increases were necessary besides firing that one lady which we didn't even do? Securing the cockpit doors was a good idea.
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