CommieGIR posted:

Islamic Extremists hurt mainline Islam, AGC.

JaggerMcDagger posted:

Bicyclops posted:

I think the real issue is the "We are Charlie!" stuff for me. Of course, the enormous tragedy in this case is that people were murdered. Murder is awful. It's the worst thing, literally, that you can do to a person, besides doing something bad to them and then murdering them. It should not happen, not for any reason, least of all that they are drawing cartoons.

But some of the cartoons were bigoted, and I do not feel comfortable identifying in a "We are Charlie!" kind of way with the people who drew them. If someone call Muir's balls off and then forced him to chock on them, I would think this was terrible behavior, which was unwarranted, in the face of pretty much anything, but I could not, under any circumstances say "We are Muir!" because I am about as far as I can be from being him. I would not post his cartoons in defiance of the people who killed him, because they are still bad and hateful cartoons.

A lot of us are being exposed to the cartoons for the first time, which are making us uncomfortable because of the bigotry expressed therein, which is why they are being criticized now, even in the wake of the tragedy. We are not bringing it up because we are blaming the victims, we are bringing it up because we are just now seeing these cartoons, and we have been asked to identify with them, which I, at least, do not, beyond in a generalized and nebulous "free speech" sort of way. There's no government body censoring these cartoons and there never was; there is no need to proliferate them. They have already proliferated in their relevant circles. The people who created them were silenced by hateful, murdering hands, and that is indeed a horrible tragedy, and that they will no longer be able to speak or express themselves through drawing is horrible and sad. Still, that doesn't mean that all of us must needs identify with every point they made so much that we must post it in every corner of the internet, when the views expressed are in fact sometimes not good. It doesn't mean that each criticism blames them for what they are doing.

I openly condemn what happened to Charlie, but I am not Charlie, and I will not identify with the viewpoints expressed by Charlie.

colonel_korn posted:

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Rorus Raz posted:

Islamophobia has been working out.

colonel_korn posted:

6 (might be old but seems to be circulating today )

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

Muir knows how the Crusades ended, right? All territory acquired lost and the end hastened for the Byzantines by the Crusaders themselves?

Armani posted:

Safe Space Gorazde? I had a tab still from a few days ago on Sacco and his works: http://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/articles/the-universal-language-of-the-image-joe-sacco-s-comics-and-conflicts/

I would love to read his work - ink on wood sounds like a lovely and painstaking medium to do for comics.

Xander77 posted:

Welp. The one bit of Russian news coverage I saw was an outright dumb and so goddamn crazy (or at least shrill and actively hysterical) reporter screeching about :
Millions of Muslims in France.
Billions of new mosques, no new Catholic houses of worship.
A "House of Islamic Culture" (what kind of culture could Muslims possibly have?) funded by Parisian taxpayers.
That's not enough for those people - another Islamic museum is being built right across the street, for a billion million Francs.

Charlie Hebdo (apparently) weren't fond of this overtly tolerant approach towards der Untermensches. They mocked Muslims, the EU, Merkel etc (they also sucked down Putin's big manly cock as every good journo should - not said, but actively implied).

I sorta assumed that was going to be the Russian spin.

WitchFetish posted:

Seeing as there is still doubt on whether or not Latuff is a dumb loving idiot who romanticizes literal terrorists in the most laughable way possible, allow me to post the rest of the series :







*unsheathes dragunov* My my, looks like we have some pesky americans here. Time to show you the dark power of Juba the baghdad sniper...
*kills all americans*
*adjusts keffiyeh*
"Eh, nothing personel kid..."

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Man, Iron Pill may be "drawn" by an unironic probable racist and is probably going to be found on the computer harddrive of the next big school shooter, but it's just in amazing in ways I can't really describe. What's the story behind that poo poo anyways?

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

How many cartoons are we gonna see like this?

euclidian88 posted:

Well fat cats seem to lead/control quite a few...

Xander77 posted:

Oh hey - I'd love to see some "pidarasy" cartoons. (Quote this out of context)

I can't really find good caricatures, or even good English sources on Soviet persecution of alternative art.

Xander77 posted:

Oops, i forgot to tell a joke?

Xander77 posted:

alnilam posted:

alnilam posted:

"Yak the knife"?

SirSamVimes posted:

Same dress, different lightning/whatnot.

Venom Snake posted:

Why can't this actually happen? Please?



sadmittromneyholdingadollar.jpg

Cpt.Americant posted:

Could someone link and/or post it? wouldn't mind seeing that one.

Neeksy posted:

Holy poo poo this is amazing. Alan Moore must hate the gently caress out of Miller, because there are some acid burns here.

Deep Hurting posted:

Yeah, I noticed this too. What's the deal with that?? It's really weird.

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PT6A posted:

I wonder what Charlie Hebdo has been up to lately:



Oh...

Approximate translations: "Daesh: Russian aircraft intensify their bombing", "The dangers of Russian low-cost carriers: I should have taken Air Cocaine"

There has been a predictably... dour reaction from the Russians on this matter. Actually, I'm starting to think the condemnation of this cartoon over some of the others that were accused of being racist really does show that, while Charlie Hebdo itself is clearly an equal-opportunity offender, a lot of those who were so quick to defend its satire regarding Mohammed and the deaths of Mediterranean migrants actually were racist, because I don't hear poo poo now that it's making fun of dead white people.

For what it's worth, I think all of what they do is valid and people need to quit whining regardless of their target of the day.

Samuel Clemens posted:

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Cat Mattress posted:

Crying Lara Croft is a nice touch.

nickmeister posted:

This is what I was talking about. Much more readable... wait, what have I done?!

Inspector Hound posted:

I would like to see his erotic drawings, but i doubt he could surpass what horsey is capable of

Erenthal posted:

The Daily Mail is like a secret underground newspaper distributed by neo-nazis, right?

It's not an established paper with circulation that people read and nod along to, right? Right?

Mister Beeg posted:

I'm kinda surprised that Ted Rall isn't drawing a DONALD TRUMP IS HITLER!!!! cartoon, when the comparison is really apt.

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

The Scanlator of this Horror Manga i'm reading is starting his own politoons