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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

emminou posted:



I'm glad to see John Key is having fun on his holiday. :angel:

"What does a grown man want with 12 frosted pigs?"

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

That our government will continue to make overtures that fundamentally contradict our expressed values as a nation and the values expressed as his own by his honour John Key the Prime Minister of New Zealand should come as no surprise given Nationals extensive history of providing perks, positions, jobs, and paybacks to its own party members, friends, partners and piggybanks throughout their term in power.

Both parties tend to be equally guilty of this kind of poo poo but people seem to pretty much accept it as inevitable.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Red Peak sucked, there was a bunch of other cool poo poo we could have given a wildcard to. Once again the extremely vocal demanding few get shown just how few they really are.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Wandle Cax posted:

no there really really wasn't

I would have been happy with this tbh

http://flagdesign.nz/post/121805345732/our-southern-swanny

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Vagabundo posted:

It's fine, but it's let down by the voting public.

I hate people for not thinking the same things as me too.

It's worked reasonably well at delivering us centralist governments for almost 20 years now, no matter what opposition party supporters say.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Infotainment! posted:

"Centrist" has moved so far right in the last 2 decades it's a meaningless term.

The only thing that's been consistent is the outcries from each side who claim "This is a return to Ruthenasia/50s style union-hugging protectionism" whenever someone they don't like gets elected in.

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Counterpoint, Colin Craig would be a minister in the National government if we had STV.

Was there really a proposed STV electorate in the country that would have ranked Craig ahead of multiple Nat/Lab candidates who would have been standing?

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Dec 26, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Dick Smith has been a joke for years, their sites are usually in pokey little parts of shopping centres or in weird locations and their stock was always hilariously out of date. I was still able to buy brand new PS1 games there to play on my PS3 when I first got it, and it was the only reason I ever went in one.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Lmao how basic do you have to be to think that a Porsche is the be-all and end-all of cars these days.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Infotainment! posted:

Lol and it's a cayenne, the rav4 of remuera

That's being kind. It's the "We really want a status symbol but we haven't actually got the stretch to get a proper sportscar AND a flash utility vehicle. Cayenne it is!"

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Lancelot posted:

Wellington is city built for people rather than cars. Auckland is really underdeveloped in the CBD, to the extent that any road that isn't one of the main streets (Queen, High, Karangahape) is really dreary and horrible to walk along. The University is right next to a four-lane highway that you have to cross to get the bus. In Wellington the whole city, from Cuba across to the Beehive, is full of interesting cafes and stores even when you turn down side-streets you haven't seen before.

You're right, Waterloo Quay is in no way just a wind tunnel of road and buildings. And the streets of Wellington certainly weren't massive and wide enough to hold a V8 Supercar race in the CBD, something that Auckland never managed.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Yeah. It's called "Revved" or "Amped" or something equally obvious and dumb.

It's called Turbo.

And there are about three shows worth watching and the rest are all American Chopper rip offs.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

For serious,

a) Proportionally and actually less than a CEO's, this is how income tax works, as opposed to the Key-favoured GST where proportionally more of the waitress' taxes "will go" toward student debt. (Tax is not this granular Mr. Key)

b) It is important to enable the next generation access to better opportunities than you yourself had, because otherwise you end up in the exact kind of Social Security crisis we have been refusing to address where the old people are living longer, own more things, and yet still want a stipend from the improverished youth. How much of that waitress' taxes should go to a pensioner who is at the end of their productive life rather than starting it?

Consolidated fund, what up .

Also my main criticism with this is that it's pretty toothless and transparent without the context of a) completely restructuring the way universities are funded or else the Government is just going to end up paying a bunch of people to bill itself for services it's providing, and b) if student debt is such a big loving deal, pair it with an announcement that you'll write off existing student loans - it's not like those are just going to vanish in the twelve years before this kicks in - or is Little just happy for people to deal with these supposedly serious issues until an arbitrary point in time?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

mirthdefect posted:

"Making loans interest free worked for us last time, what else could we do?"

Pretty much this - twink the old press release in some places, change the date and boom - another election-winning policy!

...right?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

The problem with this sort of thing is it tends to leave out how improved access to consumer goods from overseas makes them more affordable for people on lower incomes and and how having to buy foreign currency with a purchase order through the Post Office makes doing business with the rest of the world borderline impossible.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
I just want to know what the Council were thinking. Did they seriously expect they wouldn't get a huge wave of complaints when they made wide ranging changes to Glendowie/St Heliers after consultation had closed? At some point you have to ask who thought it was a smart idea.

From living out this way, I know that a) a lot of the land is too contoured to develop high level stuff without massive cost anyway, and b) most people would be happy to sell what are still usually big sections to developers if rezoning adds value. But in saying that Tamaki Drive is at a standstill from 5pm to 7pm on weeknights/unusable on weekends, and there's already been pretty steep rates rises in the area. There's no rapid transport/bus lanes/anything in Glendowie either - there's one bus route to the city that gets stuck in the same traffic as everyone else. So yea, the idea that the area can handle any more density without investment to cope with the level it already has is laughable.

There's also the issue of 'what if the guy next to me builds up to max height and blocks my light/views' but that's an RMA issue and while you can't blame the Council for that (thanks, much-vaunted RMA reforms which would give a mechanism to deal with this stuff but National seems fundamentally unable to actually deliver!), they should have seen the question coming.

And the best part? Now there's no Council evidence, there'll probably be way way denser provisions laid out than they ended up with after consultation and no one will be able to do anything about it.

In short, we are all stupider for this experience and no one will learn from it. Life in the 'burbs, man.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Vagabundo posted:

But is there anything as Kiwi as chucking all the eggs in one basket, even if the basket is now an eggy mess that smells like poo poo?

I'll have you know eggs are the backbone of this economy.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Actually on second thoughts, a big long post about lovely trust disclosure regimes is a stupid idea when I can just say "Our Trust record keeping rules are really bad compared to the rules for Companies, but reform isn't a big vote-getter".

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 20, 2016

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

This is getting H-Fee levels of wtf. Imagine if every MP was accountable for the work that finance or legal professionals that work for them did for their other clients. Are all MPs with an investments/Kiwisaver with Milford now under the spotlight because of the poo poo that went on there that they actually had nothing to do with?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

fong posted:

If it comes to light that your lawyer is basically a criminal and you stick with them then yes, it's damning, particularly if you're the PM. And yes I also expect MPs invested in Milford to drop their shares too if they can. It's important to hold politicians to high moral standards, for obvious reasons.

I'm not sure it works in reverse. I would have thought it's a bit unreasonable to expect MPs to be across their lawyer's entire client base and know what they're doing for each and every one of them - especially when they can't legally tell them even if they do ask. I think the real acid test will be if Key switches lawyers in four or five months (it will take time for him get soundings about who can manage his affairs and make sure they're squeaky clean. Then you'll know that something was up with the guy he deals with now.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

oohhboy posted:

I saw it more about how godawful and soft the data was. The problem is nobody is willing or has the data about anything that can help the housing crisis. The government refuses to acknowledge the housing problem exists and its hard to do datamining without being accused of racism. Even if someone did do it in a scientific fashion they would be called the racist regardless of how the data turned out.

Prices keep exploding and more and more people become unhappy.

I just wish people would spend half the time they spend talking about the supposedly huge issue of foreign buyers talking about literally any other contributors to high house prices like low interest rates, poo poo urban planning and a lack of land and infrastructure commitment from central Govt.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

Capital gains alone will not fix the problem of housing prices, it will just make the price increases graph in a sawtooth pattern rather than a smooth curve.

P much. Capital gains taxes are fine, but capital gains taxes combined with gently caress all supply and incredibly low interest rates will mean prices just increase to preserve the current margins and the expectation will be that the buyer just borrows extra to foot the bill.

I mean 'lock in' has been pretty heavily done to death with CGT and the prevailing thoughts seem to be it isn't a thing, but that's not something that's been tested in a market where there's a huge shortage, gently caress-all capacity for land/densification and a central bank that can't figure out how low interest rates and increasing house prices are related.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

oohhboy posted:

Squeezing the bottom like that isn't going to help people who actually need a house and live in it. It's all going to the top with cash buyers and investors making all the gains overseas or other wise. We need some serious disincentive for buying houses as an investment by trashing the returns and taking out the goal of raising equity. Breaking the land banks isn't going to help in the long term with land wasteful houses with no transport other than cars attached to it. We also need to sort out proper unmoveable minimums on apartments so they are liveable if we do build more with strong penalties for cutting even the smallest corner.

Selling all those state houses did nothing but throw the poorest into the expensive whims of the free market.

Well yea pretty much but you could do that by modifying existing legislation so that property investors can't claim the interest costs on the huge amounts of debt they're taking on as a tax deductible cost. One of the reasons property is so appealing is that interest-driven loss your company allocates out to you gives you a sweet tax refund year on year while the asset you bought keeps appreciating.

But yea, the point about transport is a huge issue too - Places like Hobsonville Point or Stonefields getting consented without rapid transit in place (or at least planned) does my head in.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Slavvy posted:

But...but hobsonville point is five minutes from the motorway! And ten minutes from NorthWest, the only wageslave destination you could possibly need!

I am moving to what pretty much that area and I am dreading commuting into the city. I was miffed that there was no dedicated busway or LRT as part of the NW motorway development but now I'm close to ballistic.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Ghostlight posted:

In practical terms abortion is 'legal' in New Zealand, which is to say that actually the large percentage of abortions are illegal but society in general hasn't cared about putting pressure on the doctors to stop interpreting the law broadly when it was obviously written with a narrow intention. The access to abortion that exists in New Zealand is entirely at a doctor's discretion and requires women to affirm that they are literally too mentally unwell to carry a child to term.

The only difference between our current regime and one that "bans" abortion except for special circumstances like rape etc. is that there is no difference because that's literally what our current regime is. We just have doctors pragmatic enough to not question the legal fiction women have to tell in order to get access to abortions because they know that #8 wire is the alternative.

Thanks for saying this. The idea that women who might be making a sane and rational choice have to declare themselves unfit/unable to carry a pregnancy to term is baffling and incredibly regressive. We have enough social institutions like churches and old fucks to make people feel bad about wanting to terminate an unwanted pregnancy without legislation needing to pick up the slack.

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